unless he is solely responsible for that drop pass, i don't think he stinks exactly.
- dbot

I bet he has more stick breaks on the PP than the rest of the team combined , lost opportunities

He is just filler. Like rice.
- thundachunk

Benning signed Sbisa for three years , sorry I just don't see how he brings back Hamhuis and hopes for an offensive D core.

Tanev and Edler are the mentors , you don't need more.

You have Edler Tanev Hutton, build around these three
- VANTEL

I would rather Hamhuis, Tanev be the mentors. Like I said earlier, Hamhuis can easily slide down the depth chart and be your comfortable/reliable veteran in your bottom pairing. Edler will be a disaster the moment Tanev finds better chemistry with someone else

I bet he has more stick breaks on the PP than the rest of the team combined , lost opportunities
- VANTEL

So now he's responsible for the hardware??
you're reaching my man.

With that said, I agree that Edler should be shopped.
Just don't agree with who you've listed to replace him.

Benning signed Sbisa for three years , sorry I just don't see how he brings back Hamhuis and hopes for an offensive D core.
- VANTEL

Like I said if its between Edler and Hamhuis. I take Hamhuis. I am really not big on Edler. Highly overrated. Doesn't play as his size dictates it should.

So now he's responsible for the hardware??
you're reaching my man.

With that said, I agree that Edler should be shopped.
Just don't agree with who you've listed to replace him.
- dbot

If youre moving a guy out from the current defense, he's my pick to go as well. Bigger/better return and also most likely to decline poorly

He is just filler. Like rice.
- thundachunk

White Rice...
Brown Rice...
Wild Rice...
Rice-A-Roni...
Long Grain Rice...
Medium Grain Rice...
Short Grain Rice...
Sweet Brown Rice...
Wehani Rice...
Brown Basmati Rice...
Himalayan Red Rice...
Colusari Red Rice...
Purple Thai Rice...
Chinese Black Rice...

Forest Gump... Probably

I would rather Hamhuis, Tanev be the mentors. Like I said earlier, Hamhuis can easily slide down the depth chart and be your comfortable/reliable veteran in your bottom pairing. Edler will be a disaster the moment Tanev finds better chemistry with someone else
- WhiteLie

Edler is younger faster and locked in. Hamhuis is expired at the end of the year. If you sign Hamhuis this is your D for the next three years.

Everyone complained how bad the D is. The only way to change it is to actually move players

White Rice...
Brown Rice...
Wild Rice...
Rice-A-Roni...
Long Grain Rice...
Medium Grain Rice...
Short Grain Rice...
Sweet Brown Rice...
Wehani Rice...
Brown Basmati Rice...
Himalayan Red Rice...
Colusari Red Rice...
Purple Thai Rice...
Chinese Black Rice...

Forest Gump... Probably
- rugdnit

Edler is younger faster and locked in. Hamhuis is expired at the end of the year. If you sign Hamhuis this is your D for the next three years.

Everyone complained how bad the D is. The only way to change it is to actually move players
- VANTEL

Edler is younger and faster, better shot too.
Still think he is more expendable and Hamhuis is a better fit for the next 3 years to anchor the D.

Like I said if its between Edler and Hamhuis. I take Hamhuis. I am really not big on Edler. Highly overrated. Doesn't play as his size dictates it should.
- thundachunk

I don't think Benning is shopping Sbisa or Edler so I bet it is Hamhuis that gets moved

Edler is younger faster and locked in. Hamhuis is expired at the end of the year. If you sign Hamhuis this is your D for the next three years.

Everyone complained how bad the D is. The only way to change it is to actually move players
- VANTEL

Is Edler actually faster? He really doesnt look it most days.
I see Hamhuis similarly to Sami Salo, people wanted him moved for a long time - too injury prone, slow, etc. But he actually had a positive/calming effect on the D and it became evident when he left. Hamhuis has that demeanor, Edler does not. In the coming seasons, I would rather see Hutton be paired with Tanev, I think that is ideal but who is Edler going to play with? Hamhuis has been paired with almost everyone under contract with Vancouver over the past couple seasons because he is reliable and adapts. Edler cant do it, hes my choice to move out if you need to clear a path for someone, he eats too many valuable minutes for limited production

I don't think Benning is shopping Sbisa or Edler so I bet it is Hamhuis that gets moved
- VANTEL

You're probably right. D does need a shake up. You won't see my heart broken over it. Not like Nucker when Kesler was traded.

Is Edler actually faster? He really doesnt look it most days.
I see Hamhuis similarly to Sami Salo, people wanted him moved for a long time - too injury prone, slow, etc. But he actually had a positive/calming effect on the D and it became evident when he left. Hamhuis has that demeanor, Edler does not. In the coming seasons, I would rather see Hutton be paired with Tanev, I think that is ideal but who is Edler going to play with? Hamhuis has been paired with almost everyone under contract with Vancouver over the past couple seasons because he is reliable and adapts. Edler cant do it, hes my choice to move out if you need to clear a path for someone, he eats too many valuable minutes for limited production
- WhiteLie

WD uses Edler in every situation. He plays top pair and eats up 24 minutes a night. He is locked in for a very reasonable 5 mil a year for 4 more years.

Do you really Think Benning is going to move Edler and his NTC or 33 year old Hamhuis?

I don't think Benning is shopping Sbisa or Edler so I bet it is Hamhuis that gets moved
- VANTEL

Yes if I am betting, I agree thats likely to happen. I am just saying I would prefer retaining Hamhuis (obviously after a deadline deal) and gaining assets from Edler

WD uses Edler in every situation. He plays top pair and eats up 24 minutes a night. He is locked in for a very reasonable 5 mil a year for 4 more years.

Do you really Think Benning is going to move Edler and his NTC or 33 year old Hamhuis?
- VANTEL

See my other post. I agree that on things actually happening, you're right, doesnt mean I think that's best

I mean, Edler plays top minutes and all situations but do you really think hes a top 1A defenseman? I used to think he could be the stud D the team needed but his development has stalled

- dbot

Well you ain't got no legs Lt Dan.....

See my other post. I agree that on things actually happening, you're right, doesnt mean I think that's best

I mean, Edler plays top minutes and all situations but do you really think hes a top 1A defenseman? I used to think he could be the stud D the team needed but his development has stalled
- WhiteLie

I think he is a decent 2/3 guy , he needs help . I would love Tanev Edler as a second pairing and find two new guys with the cap space. Byfuglien would be a good aquire for sure if it wasn't to long or too expensive.

See my other post. I agree that on things actually happening, you're right, doesnt mean I think that's best

I mean, Edler plays top minutes and all situations but do you really think hes a top 1A defenseman? I used to think he could be the stud D the team needed but his development has stalled
- WhiteLie

In that way he's a lot like Hamhuis. A good if not great 2-3 Dman.
I think we're all in agreement that what this team needs is a true #1 Dman.
Edler would look sick next to Hedman for example
and Hamhuis would complement a more offensive Dman like Weber (to obvious?) well.

...great minds Vantel, great minds.

In that way he's a lot like Hamhuis. A good if not great 2-3 Dman.
I think we're all in agreement that what this team needs is a true #1 Dman.
Edler would look sick next to Hedman for example
and Hamhuis would complement a more offensive Dman like Weber (to obvious?) well.

...great minds Vantel, great minds.
- dbot

This is what I am saying. At this point we dont have better options, so showing Hamhuis the door and replacing him with worse players doesnt help make our young guys any better, nor does it guarantee them a clearer path to more opportunity
- WhiteLie

He stinks on the PP

Shultz and Schenn are RH shots with very decent accuracy
- VANTEL

Edler-Tanev....defensive
Hutton-Shultz...fast, young, scoring
Sbisa-Schenn...tough, youngish
bartkowski....extra

I cant say I wouldn't mind those lines at all.

Jamie Benn with his 10 th of the year.

Jamie Benn with his 10 th of the year.
- VANTEL

Stud.
What is it about him that causes me to root for him way more than Stamkos, Crosby, Ovechkin, etc. ??

Must be the lack of buzz or hype.

Stud.
What is it about him that causes me to root for him way more than Stamkos, Crosby, Ovechkin, etc. ??

Must be the lack of buzz or hype.
- dbot

Maybe because he is a BC boy?