Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 11/3/15 @ EDM, Plus Flyers-Canucks Wrapup

Bill do you think it is a trade that is needed to bring someone in or more of a time thing. Or is it what I am feeling...this is going to be an even longer season than anticipated and we start the Matthews watch a little earlier?

Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 11/3/15 @ EDM, Plus Flyers-Canucks Wrapup
- bmeltzer

Glad I fell asleep early in this game

I'm all for a complete tear down and rebuild. Apathy has taken hold. If they manage to somehow recover, which is possible, and string together some wins, get on a roll, great. But it's too much with these slow starts, getting beat to the puck, easily pushed off the puck and in what world does a 5 day break translate into going from taking on the best teams in your game before said break, to being dominated by the mediocre teams happen? Usually a break like that translates to fresh legs and sharper play. I'm not calling the nucks mediocre but certainly nj and buff are locks for the final four this season.

Bill do you think it is a trade that is needed to bring someone in or more of a time thing. Or is it what I am feeling...this is going to be an even longer season than anticipated and we start the Matthews watch a little earlier?
- MrPerfect316

I can't see a panic trade being made by Hexy. I will tell you that as soon as possible, we need to get Vinny out of the lineup. Not because it's all his fault, but I think we have zero wins since he's been in including 1 goal scored each of the last 3 games. May be coincidence, but we've generally looked awful since we lost cooter..

I figured after first not much had changed....and that their play would put me to sleep anyways. Missed second and third or as Bill said. "Not much".

I can't see a panic trade being made by Hexy. I will tell you that as soon as possible, we need to get Vinny out of the lineup. Not because it's all his fault, but I think we have zero wins since he's been in including 1 goal scored each of the last 3 games. May be coincidence, but we've generally looked awful since we lost cooter..
- Hextall271

Vinny is no longer NHL caliber. Sad but true. Embarrassing for him and team...the whole situation.

Vinny is no longer NHL caliber. Sad but true. Embarrassing for him and team...the whole situation.
- landros 2

It may be coincidence, but I'd send him back to the press box. Also, Manning has looked awful in my opinion. I noticed a few times last night when he got beaten badly.

This team is what it is, basically the same bunch of guys who weren't very good last year with a significant portion of the Flyers cap tied up in dead weight they can't move.

It really is frightening how bad the team has been since Couturier went down and not much will change until the roster is turned over.

The Flyers have been a mediocre team for so long now with such a bad mix of players, it looks as though the Flyers are just going through the motions.

The focus should be on who can help this team next year rather than making a playoff push.

The Flyers will most likely go on a run late in the season that will be just enough to take the Fllyers out of a top 10 pick and everyone will declare they've turned the corner, just like the previous years.

Vinny,AMac, and Hamburglar are truly a 3 headed monster. You try to be positive but those 3 contracts will prevent this team from any success.
Patience is fine but not being competitive is driving me (frank)ing nuts

Vinny,AMac, and Hamburglar are truly a 3 headed monster. You try to be positive but those 3 contracts will prevent this team from any success.
Patience is fine but not being competitive is driving me (frank)ing nuts
- 3flyerkids

i flagged 3 flyers kid by accident, sorry... anyway yea i'm in hockey depression with this team.

i flagged 3 flyers kid by accident, sorry... anyway yea i'm in hockey depression with this team.
- JoeRussomanno

This place has become the on the line version of AA meetings for Flyer fans
A place where we come to admit our problem of thinking we had a team who could at least compete.

Eddie may be dead by the time this team is good again

Patience is fine but not being competitive is driving me (frank)ing nuts
- 3flyerskids

Just have to wonder... does Uncle Ed have the stomach for this? Will Hexy be given the chance to fully execute his plan? I'm scared.

Just have to wonder... does Uncle Ed have the stomach for this? Will Hexy be given the chance to fully execute his plan? I'm scared.


- Tomahawk

Eddie made Homer president so all is good....they all live in the 70s

i worked last night and PVR'd the game so i can watch it before bed this morning after seeing the score i might just skip it....sad state we are in right now the flyers have some good prospects sitting in Leigh valley right now they could be up playing for the big club if we weren't in salary cap hell

Just have to wonder... does Uncle Ed have the stomach for this? Will Hexy be given the chance to fully execute his plan? I'm scared.


- Tomahawk

First off, at this rate, none of us will be around to see us in contention again haha

I can't see anything happening to Hexy. I think he has buy in from above to conduct the long term rebuild here. No one ever comes out and says, yeah we are going to stink and miss the playoffs by 30 pts, because they'll be playing in an empty arena and need to sell merchandise, but in reality they know the situation.

I can't see a panic trade being made by Hexy. I will tell you that as soon as possible, we need to get Vinny out of the lineup. Not because it's all his fault, but I think we have zero wins since he's been in including 1 goal scored each of the last 3 games. May be coincidence, but we've generally looked awful since we lost cooter..
- Hextall271

At this point it's not panic. These problems aren't limited to the first 10 games of the season.

The mix of players up front is just terrible. They badly need another playmaker/sniper and it also wouldn't hurt to have guy with size( and who uses it effectively) be able to lock down a role in this top 6.

i worked last night and PVR'd the game so i can watch it before bed this morning after seeing the score i might just skip it....sad state we are in right now the flyers have some good prospects sitting in Leigh valley right now they could be up playing for the big club if we weren't in salary cap hell
- flyer186

What is best for the prospects is what determines where they play. If they're not ready yet for full NHL duty then they belong in the AHL. A 4 game losing streak for the Flyers does not change that, nor does it change Hextall's plan. It's early November, Hextall is not going to panic like some of the fans are.

1 goal again. Exciting!

At this point it's not panic. These problems aren't limited to the first 10 games of the season.

The mix of players up front is just terrible. They badly need another playmaker/sniper and it also wouldn't hurt to have guy with size( and who uses it effectively) be able to lock down a role in this top 6.
- hereticpride

If the impetus for making a trade now, is the 4 game losing streak, then it absolutely is panic. Even if the Flyers were currently winning, and a trade came along that Hextall thought made the team better for the future, he would make it. The needs of the team are the same whether they are currently losing or winning. There's a long term vision in place, and it's not going to change, due to a 4 game losing streak.

Two questions I would love to Hakstol:

1 - Why do you keep playing Manning?

2 - Why do you keep putting Raffl on the top PP unit?

Sick goal by G. Too bad we dont have 3 of him...thats what Hextall should be trying to figure out. Maybe everyone should dye their hair orange

At this point it's not panic. These problems aren't limited to the first 10 games of the season.

The mix of players up front is just terrible. They badly need another playmaker/sniper and it also wouldn't hurt to have guy with size( and who uses it effectively) be able to lock down a role in this top 6.
- hereticpride

you are correct it isn't a panic move at all.

I would just not be so overly concerned with the cap ramifications. You know what? There are plenty of teams that have been consistently winning (Anaheim,Nashville) that consistently operate between 5-10 million under the ceiling. Buyout vinny this summer if he doesn't retire, buyout Amac, send RJ down next year. Just deal with it and get some bodies that can actually play. You know their usually available for less than you'd think.