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poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:57 PM ET
In fact, I would only make that deal if it was guaranteed that Staal was a rental. But it would have to be straight up, no other players/picks.
- Stu17

You would have to give them something for absorbing the length of Browns contract.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:58 PM ET
#FreeSlava
- SRam19

agreed
kidninja
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 01.25.2010

Nov 4 @ 3:06 PM ET
I know I'm just being a broken record, but I can not stand brown. I hate when he is on the ice. The guy thinks he's 20 and can do his famous pull and drag move (that never ever EVER works) and then tries to skate around that same defender losing the puck 99% of the time. Kopitar is usually skating with him on the rush just waiting for that dip doodle brown to pass it to him in the slot
- KINGS67


Wait you dont like how he rushes up the ice and shoots the puck fromt he top of the circle with no one screening the goalie while having Gaborik or Kopi on the left? You dont like how he takes stupid penalties and doesnt hit anymore? You dont like him falling on his ass 3-4 times a game? for got to mention how he loses the puck everytime he has it.

I agree with you 100% and Ive been telling my friends that he's worthless (since he signed that contract) now and that we need to trade him, I really thought it was going to be this summer but since that passed I was hoping that he was going to have a big year so that some chump would trade for him. Looks like thats not happening.

MikeOxbyg
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 02.28.2011

Nov 4 @ 3:16 PM ET
Wasn't aware that dumping Regehr and Greene in favor of McBain/Forbort/Ehrhoff was getting slower and bigger.
- Jason_Lewis


Man, I just erased a whole novel of a retort in exchange for this simple version of how I rate our D on foot speed, mental speed (anticipation, balanced hesitation with quick decision making), and over all play ( not getting burned and outworked), using the old school grading system:

Erhoff C+ to B
McBain C+ to B
McNaab C- to C+
Martinez C
Muzzin C-
Forbort (Small sample size, but) C
Greene D+ to C-

and finally Jesus tap dancing Christ himself.... Drew MF-ing Doughty

You know I hate him, hell, everyone knows that... he is at times an awesome hockey player the last 5 games of last season is how he should play all of the time), but grossly over rated so I give him a B+. Now, knowing that everyone else in and around the league and fans alike would give him an A++ and want to just hand him the Norris trophy right now... I said trade his a$$ with brown for Eichel...

Without me going to a stat page... how many goals does Jesus Doughty have this season?


MikeOxbyg
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 02.28.2011

Nov 4 @ 3:18 PM ET
Mike's kind of become a troll of his own team...
- Stu17



Call me what you want... except for myopic

Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

Nov 4 @ 3:22 PM ET
I think the Kings moving brown would be a huge mistake. Stick with what works. He is at best a third line player, and his no business being on the top line, but that doesn't mean trade away your Captain. I don't think its that easy. Especially when you are playing as well as we have been. DB was a big part of the cup winning nucleus, and I really think should retire with the team. He seems to get called out more then anyone else,especially when everyone looks the other way when Kopitar goes through that slump every year.. Some players dont show up until playoff time. That is when we need brown.
Stu17
Los Angeles Kings
Location: If its Brown flush it down!, CA
Joined: 10.15.2013

Nov 4 @ 3:30 PM ET
I think the Kings moving brown would be a huge mistake. Stick with what works. He is at best a third line player, and his no business being on the top line, but that doesn't mean trade away your Captain. I don't think its that easy. Especially when you are playing as well as we have been. DB was a big part of the cup winning nucleus, and I really think should retire with the team. He seems to get called out more then anyone else,especially when everyone looks the other way when Kopitar goes through that slump every year.. Some players dont show up until playoff time. That is when we need brown.
- Deadmau55

If he would retire at the end of the season I would be happy to have him be a King for life!
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Nov 4 @ 3:32 PM ET
Eric Staal for Dustin Brown and a 2nd
- BINGO!



Ur nutz...... No way I'd do that for CAR....
arh777
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Yorba Linda, CA
Joined: 03.27.2012

Nov 4 @ 4:04 PM ET
Ur nutz...... No way I'd do that for CAR....
- Ur Not Me

Jon Rosen said Kopitar worked out with the team and he's fine.
MikeOxbyg
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 02.28.2011

Nov 4 @ 4:24 PM ET
didn't realize exactly how dirty that game was...


http://lakingsinsider.com...ar-no-word-on-status-yet/
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Nov 4 @ 4:30 PM ET
didn't realize exactly how dirty that game was...


http://lakingsinsider.com...ar-no-word-on-status-yet/

- MikeOxbyg

Damn. I remember seeing Toff lose his stick. But didnt notice Upshall do that. Wheres his fine?
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Nov 4 @ 4:32 PM ET
Jon Rosen said Kopitar worked out with the team and he's fine.
- arh777



Great, thanks for the update......
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: TERRACE LANCO, CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Nov 4 @ 4:33 PM ET
Eric Staal for Dustin Brown and a 2nd
- BINGO!


Done. Draw up the paperwork.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: TERRACE LANCO, CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Nov 4 @ 4:34 PM ET
We'll take him, but you need to take Andrew MacDonald and Vinny Lecavalier.
- jmatchett383


Done. Draw up the paperwork.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: TERRACE LANCO, CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Nov 4 @ 4:34 PM ET
Again, have all of the Andrew MacDonald/Vinny Lecavalier you'd like in return for him.
- jmatchett383


Ok. You can have a 2nd, too. Draw up the paperwork.
Gretz2Kurri
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 01.19.2014

Nov 4 @ 4:49 PM ET
Jon Rosen said Kopitar worked out with the team and he's fine.
- arh777






stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Nov 4 @ 4:49 PM ET
didn't realize exactly how dirty that game was...


http://lakingsinsider.com...ar-no-word-on-status-yet/

- MikeOxbyg


hey, that's what I said about the steen forearm, lol.

I didn't notice the upshall thing while watching the game. That's complete bush league. ugh.
yzermaneely
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Poway, CA
Joined: 12.17.2011

Nov 4 @ 5:03 PM ET
Karma?
Stu17
Los Angeles Kings
Location: If its Brown flush it down!, CA
Joined: 10.15.2013

Nov 4 @ 5:08 PM ET
hey, that's what I said about the steen forearm, lol.

I didn't notice the upshall thing while watching the game. That's complete bush league. ugh.

- stljam

I do remember Toffoli skating off at that point, but I didn't see the flying elbow. It looked kinda hilarious on the loop...
Stu17
Los Angeles Kings
Location: If its Brown flush it down!, CA
Joined: 10.15.2013

Nov 4 @ 5:09 PM ET
Karma?
- yzermaneely

You must be referring to the ducks current record and all the poop Perry has gotten away with in his career...
yesitscal
Joined: 02.27.2015

Nov 4 @ 5:20 PM ET
Let Brown be a cautionary tale for Lombardi if he’s even thinking of offering Milan Lucic a long-term deal. You don’t give players whose game is primarily physical long-term contracts in their late twenties because they often times break down early in their 30’s just because of their style of play.

If the Kings can trade Brown then I wouldn’t necessarily be against that, but it’ll have to be a trade that makes sense. A lot of people think that they can fleece another team in a trade, but if Kings fans don’t want Brown I can’t understand why they think another team would want him. Everybody knows the struggles he’s had in recent years. I’m afraid that any trade of Dustin Brown will only involve another toxic contract coming back. Maybe you do it if it’s only toxic for fewer years than Dustin’s.
bluecoconuts
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.13.2010

Nov 4 @ 5:20 PM ET
Without Brown we don't get past Chicago two years ago, he was the best player on the ice for game 7. Hard to say how 2012 would have gone, but he was huge in the first three series as well.

Brown is an interesting player, he's not the best guy on the ice, but I don't think LA has two cups without him.
yesitscal
Joined: 02.27.2015

Nov 4 @ 5:28 PM ET
Without Brown we don't get past Chicago two years ago, he was the best player on the ice for game 7. Hard to say how 2012 would have gone, but he was huge in the first three series as well.

Brown is an interesting player, he's not the best guy on the ice, but I don't think LA has two cups without him.

- bluecoconuts


Your comments are well-taken, but are you saying that the Kings should just bite the bullet and pay him for what he did two years ago? Don't forget that Toffoli gave the Kings a hometown discount when he re-signed last summer and I doubt like hell he'll be willing to do that again when his contrct expires, by which time they may have to pay him Kopitar money, too.

If the Kings end up buying out Brown, how will that affect their cap in coming years? Regardless of what he did in the past and whatever current leadership he provides the Kings, can you pay almost $6,000,000 for someone who's not going to break double digits in goals?
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Nov 4 @ 5:42 PM ET
In order to attempt and get Brown back on track. Someone needs to sit him down. And go over simplifying his game. And let him know he doesnt have to try so hard. He doesnt have to try and play like a superstar. Just needs to play a hard nosed game. He doesnt have to skate every puck into the offensive zone to only lose it because he stick handles like crap and cant stay on his skates. He needs to slow down. Ive loved Brown for as long as I can remember. But hes playing like someone you dont want on your team.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Nov 4 @ 5:43 PM ET
Without Brown we don't get past Chicago two years ago, he was the best player on the ice for game 7. Hard to say how 2012 would have gone, but he was huge in the first three series as well.

Brown is an interesting player, he's not the best guy on the ice, but I don't think LA has two cups without him.

- bluecoconuts

Issue is. Why do you pay him so much damn money for basically what is a 50 point player. Its easier to swallow if he was actually playing like a 50 point player. He'd be lucky to get 20 points at this rate.
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