Let's hope the coach can realize this.
- 3flyerkids

I'm really hoping that the reason they've kept Vinny in the lineup is so that they can say to him that we've given you both respect and every chance in the book this season to get a fair shot to play. They are going nowhere this season, so if this leads to Vinny retiring this spring and getting off their cap, it's worth it.

personal issues, fainting on the bench, falling on the ice, too many men penalties.....this team is a mess
- vejim

Dude... you have to get over this Mason thing. He's a human being just like you and I. His chosen profession happens to be professional sports. Personal problems go along with being, you know... a person.

And Edmonton radio guy apparently tweeted about seeing Hexy and Hak arguing after the Oilers game, but I couldn't find the tweet yesterday.
- Feanor

To be a fly on the wall for the conversation.
Topics ???

And Edmonton radio guy apparently tweeted about seeing Hexy and Hak arguing after the Oilers game, but I couldn't find the tweet yesterday.
- Feanor

Cool. Some good material for briere's meddling 101 course. Holmer and him were observing outside the locker room.

Anyone who questioned the hire of Hakstool looks like an utter fool.
- PLindbergh31

OH DO YOU THINK

I'm really hoping that the reason they've kept Vinny in the lineup is so that they can say to him that we've given you both respect and every chance in the book this season to get a fair shot to play. They are going nowhere this season, so if this leads to Vinny retiring this spring and getting off their cap, it's worth it.
- BiggE

Nothing is worth having that 2 toed sloth from a fixed cup team around this organization, he has been involved in screwing this team since 2004, first as a member of the Lightning and now as Flyer, talk about sabatoge

who in their right mind lets Vinny and manning be on the ice at the same time that is just a disaster waiting to happen....oh led to a goal great coaching Hasktol is the best coach in the world(sarcastisc)

To be a fly on the wall for the conversation.
Topics ???
- Steelmanpa

We already covered this. Hakstol wanted a large soda, and Hexy wanted to give him a small and offered to get him another small if he wanted more when he was finished. It went nuclear quickly.

If a playoff team loses their starting goalie for playoffs do you make Mason available? Just curious what players at TDL people make available. For me my list is: streit, schenn, schenn, Simmonds, read, Schultz, Mason.

And Edmonton radio guy apparently tweeted about seeing Hexy and Hak arguing after the Oilers game, but I couldn't find the tweet yesterday.
- Feanor

Not saying it didn't happen, but based on both of their personalities, I don't see Hextall and Hakstol having a heated exchange in a public place.

We already covered this. Hakstol wanted a large soda, and Hexy wanted to give him a small and offered to get him another small if he wanted more when he was finished. It went nuclear quickly.
- jmatchett383

I thought hakstoll wanted an ice cream and hextall said not till he ate supper.

If a playoff team loses their starting goalie for playoffs do you make Mason available? Just curious what players at TDL people make available. For me my list is: streit, schenn, schenn, Simmonds, read, Schultz, Mason.
- J35Bacher

Streit, Luke, Schultz, are all no question available at the deadline for me.

I'm really hoping that the reason they've kept Vinny in the lineup is so that they can say to him that we've given you both respect and every chance in the book this season to get a fair shot to play. They are going nowhere this season, so if this leads to Vinny retiring this spring and getting off their cap, it's worth it.
- BiggE

I hope you are right. It makes sense, now only if Vinny and his fist full of dollars can realize it is time to hang me up.

We already covered this. Hakstol wanted a large soda, and Hexy wanted to give him a small and offered to get him another small if he wanted more when he was finished. It went nuclear quickly.
- jmatchett383

I think it was more like:

Hex: I flew all the way to (frank)ing Edmonton to watch this crap fest??

Hak: Welcome to my world, bumhole. You stuck me with these (frank)ers.

Hex: Don't make me go Kent Nilsson on your ass!!

Hak: Why don't you go out and sign Kent Nilsson?? He can't be any worse than big french oaf you keep making me dress!!

who in their right mind lets Vinny and manning be on the ice at the same time that is just a disaster waiting to happen....oh led to a goal great coaching Hasktol is the best coach in the world(sarcastisc)
- flyer186

Wait...that was sarcastic?

Streit, Luke, Schultz, are all no question available at the deadline for me.
- hereticpride

I would like to move at least one of them now to allow cap room to bring up some younger players. You would have to think Hextall will make a move before the trade deadline

I hope you are right. It makes sense, now only if Vinny and his fist full of dollars can realize it is time to hang me up.
- 3flyerkids

If that's not the reason, then I give up.

If a playoff team loses their starting goalie for playoffs do you make Mason available? Just curious what players at TDL people make available. For me my list is: streit, schenn, schenn, Simmonds, read, Schultz, Mason.
- J35Bacher

I would but only for a monster return

I think it was more like:

Hex: I flew all the way to (frank)ing Edmonton to watch this crap fest??

Hak: Welcome to my world, bumhole. You stuck me with these (frank)ers.

Hex: Don't make me go Kent Nilsson on your ass!!

Hak: Why don't you go out and sign Kent Nilsson?? He can't be any worse than big french oaf you keep making me dress!!
- BiggE

Bill,

Thanks for the detailed summary as always. Wasn't able to watch the game - thankfully.

Glad someone liked my stoppable force / movable object line

And now we know the answer...the object doesn't move
- TheGreat28

I hope you are right. It makes sense, now only if Vinny and his fist full of dollars can realize it is time to hang me up.
- 3flyerkids

not if he is buying a villa in the south of France....you cannot have enough cash

If a playoff team loses their starting goalie for playoffs do you make Mason available? Just curious what players at TDL people make available. For me my list is: streit, schenn, schenn, Simmonds, read, Schultz, Mason.
- J35Bacher

Why Mason?

Why Mason?
- KGBflyers10

Having a legit #1 starting goalie just isn't the Flyers' way. We'll be fine as soon as we find the next Leighton/Boucher combo. Who needs stability in net, anyway?

63 attempted shots, including 22 that got blocked and 14 that missed the net
- bmeltzer

So almost 60% of their attempts on net were thwarted....

Many months ago during the Berube debate, I questioned the cultures of losing and Berube poisoning young players with his lineups and perhaps the "vibe" in the locker room- think I had some back & forth with JSAQ on this.

A year later, I question this again, and to an extent the coaches decisions.

Many times teams come out of the gate enthused, fresh and with real zip in their step and doing things right. This lasted a few weeks.

VLC and Manning, PUKE....

We call up a guy with wheels- has he dressed yet? How did the Flames beat the Flyers... with a guy named Johnny Hockey who is undersized and fast and the resultant bounce off a body on a rush. The guy called up may not have all the skills , but in a speed game, speed kills sloth...

Yeah I am questioning the coach, his ability to motivate and prepare players at the NHL level, his lineup choices etc. If this guy is so much more a thinking mans game and responsibility coach than Berube, shouldnt there be better results.

Hextall and the whole organization should open the doors, let people in first come for free and have unlimited free Yuengling for this load of poop they are putting out as an NHL team

Not letting Giroux or Voracheck off the hook either

Essentially this team has unacceptable performance on the following salaries/cap hits
Giroux
Voracheck
LeCavalier
Umberger
McDonald ( even with the 950K cap hit credit)

Add in the lack of performance from other players and half the cap is spent on zero performance versus expectations.

If that locker room wasnt poisoned last year, I think it will be this year.

Oh great they played 2 good periods against a team as bad as they are and got a consolation point in the loss...
- Steelmanpa

The same issues of slow starts and inconsistent efforts has existed now under at least 3 coaches, Laviolette, Berube, and now Hakstol. I know what that says to me. Playing Chris Conner is not the equivalent of Johnny Gaudreau in the lineup.