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-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
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Nov 16 @ 12:25 PM ET
Always knew you were asian
- PhillySportsGuy



that's twiztedmike, i am the corgi
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 16 @ 12:32 PM ET
that's twiztedmike, i am the corgi
- -davies-

swag
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 16 @ 12:36 PM ET
Bill Meltzer ‏@billmeltzer 10m10 minutes ago
Hakstol said lineup change up front -- Raffl to Bellemare line -- had more to do with keeping dynamic of Bellemare line similar w/o White.

Never seen a coach move a player from the 1st line to the 4th line in order to accommodate the other 4th liners
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 16 @ 12:38 PM ET
Never seen a coach move a player from the 1st line to the 4th line in order to accommodate the other 4th liners
- PhillySportsGuy


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 16 @ 12:38 PM ET
I don't know about that. Macdonald doesn't really do anything great. He is pretty much average across the board. I think they know that and in this type of season there is no harm in seeing Manning play. If he can be a 6_7 defenseman for cheap then money can be allocated to fix other needs.
- J35Bacher



What does Manning do that is great? Manning is below average in every area as an NHl defenseman.
Daceroni
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.20.2006

Nov 16 @ 12:40 PM ET
They are already burning most of his cap space without him here, isn't the difference between the remainder and what Manning makes almost a wash? if so, might as well play the guy you are paying, since you can't bury his cap hit in the AHL anyway. I'd get it if Manning was head and shoulders above MacDonald, but it's so obviously not the case.
- funmaster18

I agree Funmaster, at least with Mcdonald you get a very good shotblocker(was in not in the top 5 in the past 2 years), and that can be invaluable in my opinion.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 16 @ 12:41 PM ET
What does Manning do that is great? Manning is below average in every area as an NHl defenseman.
- MJL


He has more "N"s in his last name than AMac, and he laces his skates more quickly.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 16 @ 12:41 PM ET
Bill Meltzer ‏@billmeltzer 10m10 minutes ago
Hakstol said lineup change up front -- Raffl to Bellemare line -- had more to do with keeping dynamic of Bellemare line similar w/o White.

Never seen a coach move a player from the 1st line to the 4th line in order to accommodate the other 4th liners

- PhillySportsGuy


Look back to the beginning of the season and the role the Bellemare line played on the forecheck, and spending time in the opposition end.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 16 @ 12:42 PM ET
Bill Meltzer ‏@billmeltzer 10m10 minutes ago
Hakstol said lineup change up front -- Raffl to Bellemare line -- had more to do with keeping dynamic of Bellemare line similar w/o White.

Never seen a coach move a player from the 1st line to the 4th line in order to accommodate the other 4th liners

- PhillySportsGuy

goes to show raffl just isn't that good
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 16 @ 12:43 PM ET
goes to show raffl just isn't that good
- 2Real


According to you, no one is good
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 16 @ 12:44 PM ET
Manning would struggle to put up 10 points in a full season, let alone score 10 in 31 games like Gus did in 13-14.

I think it was time to demote Raffl, but I would have tried these lines. I think the 3rd line from today's practice is worryingly small.

Gagner-Giroux-Voracek
Read-Couturier-BSchenn
Leier-Laughton-Simmonds
Raffl-Bellemare-VdV

- Feanor


I don't understand folks who want Gagner on the top line. The last thing G and Jake need is slow, pass first winger who won't win much, if any, puck battles in the corners.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 16 @ 12:44 PM ET
WFMZ will be showing the Phantoms game this Saturday as well. They are channel 515 on FIOS, and I think they're also on Comcast.

http://www.wfmz.com/news/...ntoms-home-games/29581486

- Feanor


That link is a schedule to the 14-15 season. I tried looking and haven't seen a schedule for this season that their broadcasting on fios
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 16 @ 12:45 PM ET
According to you, no one is good
- PhillySportsGuy

richards gagne lindros brind amour pronger giroux voracek are all good to start with
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 16 @ 12:47 PM ET
richards gagne lindros brind amour pronger giroux voracek are all good to start with
- 2Real

so if we just get all those guys we'll win the cup

GID whoever
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 16 @ 12:49 PM ET
He has more "N"s in his last name than AMac, and he laces his skates more quickly.
- jmatchett383


/nods

And since we got rid of Grossmann, we needed someone with the appropriate number of "N"s in their name.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 16 @ 12:50 PM ET
richards gagne lindros brind amour pronger giroux voracek are all good to start with
- 2Real


WE TRADE THEM AND THEY WIN CUPS FLYERS ARE THE WORST EVER COBURN!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 16 @ 12:50 PM ET
/nods

And since we got rid of Grossmann, we needed someone with the appropriate number of "N"s in their name.

- johndewar

this must be the advanced analytics all the internet bloggers have been calling for
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 16 @ 12:52 PM ET
this must be the advanced analytics all the internet bloggers have been calling for
- BulliesPhan87


I HAZ MATH SKILLZ
GudasNew
Florida Panthers
Location: DE
Joined: 03.03.2015

Nov 16 @ 1:04 PM ET
According to you, no one is good
- PhillySportsGuy


Gudas is gud
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Nov 16 @ 1:05 PM ET
richards gagne lindros brind amour pronger giroux voracek are all good to start with
- 2Real

none of these guys are Sharks, what is wrong with u
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 16 @ 1:06 PM ET
What does Manning do that is great? Manning is below average in every area as an NHl defenseman.
- MJL

Probably say Manning is better skater and more aggressive then McDonald. Also he has better offensive extinctz in my opinion.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 16 @ 1:08 PM ET
Probably say Manning is better skater and more aggressive then McDonald. Also he has better offensive extinctz in my opinion.
- J35Bacher


They are both offensively extinct.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Nov 16 @ 1:09 PM ET
Bill Meltzer ‏@billmeltzer 10m10 minutes ago
Hakstol said lineup change up front -- Raffl to Bellemare line -- had more to do with keeping dynamic of Bellemare line similar w/o White.

Never seen a coach move a player from the 1st line to the 4th line in order to accommodate the other 4th liners

- PhillySportsGuy

He loves his crash and bang line, he really does.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Nov 16 @ 1:09 PM ET
Gudas is gud
- GudasNew

god or good?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 16 @ 1:11 PM ET
He loves his crash and bang line, he really does.
- Marc D


It's important to teach these young men the value of hard work.
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