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GudasNew
Florida Panthers
Location: DE
Joined: 03.03.2015

Nov 16 @ 1:14 PM ET
god or good?
- Marc D


Yes
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 16 @ 1:16 PM ET
Probably say Manning is better skater and more aggressive then McDonald. Also he has better offensive extinctz in my opinion.
- J35Bacher



I don't think there is much difference in skating. I think MacDonald has the ability to be more aggressive, and can be better offensively than he was last season.

Unless you want to look at fighting, I don't think Manning is better than MacDonald is in any way.

Look, we can have another round table discussion on MacDonald as a player, and who thinks what about him. Been there done that.

I think a far more important discussion is what is the end game concerning MacDonald? How is this going to work out in the future?

I think it's best regardless of how anyone sees it working out, that MacDonald returns to the Flyers and plays.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 16 @ 1:18 PM ET
That link is a schedule to the 14-15 season. I tried looking and haven't seen a schedule for this season that their broadcasting on fios
- Just5


Here's a link for this year.

http://www.phantomshockey...hroughout-2015-16-season/

The Phantoms broadcasts will also be simulcast live on WFMZ-TV Channel 69 for eight games throughout the 2015-16 season. The eight simulcast games will be Saturday, October 24, Saturday, November 14, Saturday, December 12, Saturday, December 26, Saturday, January 16, Saturday, February 13, Saturday, March 26 and Saturday, April 9.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 16 @ 1:21 PM ET
He loves his crash and bang line, he really does.
- Marc D

It's raffl. Not like he is moving giroux or voracek to the 4th line.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Nov 16 @ 1:24 PM ET
It's raffl. Not like he is moving giroux or voracek to the 4th line.
- J35Bacher



agreed
it's not like the top line has been tearing it up

so i wonder, laughton to the top line?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 16 @ 1:24 PM ET
He loves his crash and bang line, he really does.
- Marc D

It's raffl. Not like he is moving giroux or voracek to the 4th line.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Nov 16 @ 1:26 PM ET
agreed
it's not like the top line has been tearing it up

so i wonder, laughton to the top line?

- -davies-


Leier
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 16 @ 1:26 PM ET
It's raffl. Not like he is moving giroux or voracek to the 4th line.
- J35Bacher


Maybe he wants to get VdV going offensively?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 16 @ 1:27 PM ET
Bill Meltzer ‏@billmeltzer 10m10 minutes ago
Hakstol said lineup change up front -- Raffl to Bellemare line -- had more to do with keeping dynamic of Bellemare line similar w/o White.

Never seen a coach move a player from the 1st line to the 4th line in order to accommodate the other 4th liners

- PhillySportsGuy

Deck chairs.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Nov 16 @ 1:35 PM ET
Yes
- GudasNew

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Nov 16 @ 1:35 PM ET
agreed
it's not like the top line has been tearing it up

so i wonder, laughton to the top line?

- -davies-

I would like to see that!
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 16 @ 1:40 PM ET
Bill Meltzer ‏@billmeltzer 10m10 minutes ago
Hakstol said lineup change up front -- Raffl to Bellemare line -- had more to do with keeping dynamic of Bellemare line similar w/o White.

Never seen a coach move a player from the 1st line to the 4th line in order to accommodate the other 4th liners

- PhillySportsGuy


I don't really buy his explanation considering Bellemare played mainly with Leier and Gagner on Saturday.

Raffl just hasn't done enough to justify staying on the 1st line.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Nov 16 @ 1:48 PM ET
I don't think there is much difference in skating. I think MacDonald has the ability to be more aggressive, and can be better offensively than he was last season.

Unless you want to look at fighting, I don't think Manning is better than MacDonald is in any way.

Look, we can have another round table discussion on MacDonald as a player, and who thinks what about him. Been there done that.

I think a far more important discussion is what is the end game concerning MacDonald? How is this going to work out in the future?

I think it's best regardless of how anyone sees it working out, that MacDonald returns to the Flyers and plays.

- MJL


what are your thoughts on why they have not called Amac up yet?

I get that gostisbehere is a better guy to replace streit on the 1st PP.

but Amac in, sit manning would make sense, is it they are determined to give manning a set number of games before giving up?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Nov 16 @ 1:49 PM ET
I don't really buy his explanation considering Bellemare played mainly with Leier and Gagner on Saturday.

Raffl just hasn't done enough to justify staying on the 1st line.

- Feanor

you could argue that the carolina game was raffl's best one so far
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 16 @ 1:56 PM ET
what are your thoughts on why they have not called Amac up yet?

I get that gostisbehere is a better guy to replace streit on the 1st PP.

but Amac in, sit manning would make sense, is it they are determined to give manning a set number of games before giving up?

- Marc D



Until recently, they didn't have the cap space to call him up. If we look at the team, and where the biggest issues, they're having a real hard time generating offense and scoring goals. They also have some issues defensively, which I believe MacDonald could help with, but how much would that translate to actually winning?
The bottom line is this team lack playmakers. Even more so with Streit being out. MacDonald is not a playmaker, while Gostisbehere, despite his rawness is a playmaker. I just think they need to be diligent in looking at what is best for Gostisbehere and send him down if he starts to struggle.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Nov 16 @ 1:58 PM ET
Paul Holmgren on Brayden Schenn:

"We view (Schenn) as one of the top young players not playing in the league," Flyers GM Paul Holmgren said in a conference call Thursday. "He's had a little bit of a taste with Los Angeles over the last two years, and he went to the (AHL) last year and played some games at the end of the season. We'll see how it goes. He's going to come to our development camp in early July and obviously will be at training camp. I can easily say we think he's capable of doing it, but as with any young player, you never know until you get to that point. So he's going to be given every opportunity to make our team, for sure."
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 16 @ 2:05 PM ET
Paul Holmgren on Brayden Schenn:

"We view (Schenn) as one of the top young players not playing in the league," Flyers GM Paul Holmgren said in a conference call Thursday. "He's had a little bit of a taste with Los Angeles over the last two years, and he went to the (AHL) last year and played some games at the end of the season. We'll see how it goes. He's going to come to our development camp in early July and obviously will be at training camp. I can easily say we think he's capable of doing it, but as with any young player, you never know until you get to that point. So he's going to be given every opportunity to make our team, for sure."

- Pixote Andolini



That's obviously a very old quote.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 16 @ 2:07 PM ET
Random thought due to the scouting around hockey buzz. I keep seeing more and more evidence that the flyers would be good trade partners with Edmonton. Would love to know if there is something they are actually shopping for or if there have been discussions.

Might be crazy to connect the dots, but an ideal scenario in my opinion is taking Scrivens off their hands and taking LaBarbera out behind the shed. Wonder if Dillabaugh has the ability to build him back up.
Tomfan365
Joined: 03.11.2013

Nov 16 @ 2:12 PM ET
That's obviously a very old quote.
- MJL


Nah from the other night when Schenn was scratched
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Nov 16 @ 2:23 PM ET
My question is why dont they demote Manning and promote AMac?
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Nov 16 @ 2:32 PM ET
My question is why dont they demote Manning and promote AMac?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

they realize they messed up with gus the great and akeson. as those 2 have gone on on to solid nhl careers.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 16 @ 2:34 PM ET
Just put the team in the damn Cooperalls already!!!!!!!!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 16 @ 2:35 PM ET
they realize they messed up with gus the great and akeson. as those 2 have gone on on to solid nhl careers.
- rinaldo


Don't forget Oliver Lauridsen.

Edit: Best first goal ever

rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Nov 16 @ 2:38 PM ET
Don't forget Oliver Lauridsen.

Edit: Best first goal ever


- jmatchett383

Ollie never got the love those 2 got though. so he don't count plus he was a draft choice. excluded....
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 16 @ 2:42 PM ET
Ollie never got the love those 2 got though. so he don't count plus he was a draft choice. excluded....
- rinaldo


What? After 12/13, there were A TON of people on here who assumed he was going to make the club over Grossmann next season. He got a lot of love on here.
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