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SensnRBs
Ottawa Senators
Location: it ain't cheatin' if ur wife is watching, ON
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 17 @ 11:08 AM ET
i know this is only for poopz 'n giggles .... but

Malkin for Zibanejad, Weircioch, Thomas Chabut, JGP, Michalek +1st

Z-bad - 2nd line centre
JPG - 3rd/4th line centre
Michalek - 2nd/3rd line winger

Weircioch - 6/7 defenseman
Chabut - prospect stud defenseman


So, 2 top-tier players and 3 depth guys and a 1st round pick
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 17 @ 11:08 AM ET
fixed
- Tumbleweed


FLA website has 2 tickets to 3 games, parking, 2 t shirts, autographed puck, parking, plus some everglades park pass for $99. They cant give away tickets there a big name player would help boost sales.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Nov 17 @ 11:09 AM ET
FLA website has 2 tickets to 3 games, parking, 2 t shirts, autographed puck, parking, plus some everglades park pass for $99. They cant give away tickets there a big name player would help boost sales.
- sammy87


ekblad is going to be a huge name
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 17 @ 11:09 AM ET
I just don't think you can move guys like Malkin or Crosby in the era we're in. The asking price is always going to be too high. No right minded GM with a contending team is going to give up high quality depth, prospects and picks for 1 aging elite player with a mongo cap hit for another 6 years.

So you'd gain a 100 pt a year guy but at the same time unweave and weaken the fabric of your team and also trade away the future of it.

A trade of either of the two would likely only happen with a team over flowing with prospects and in the midst of a major rebuild. Buffalo, Edmonton or Florida maybe?
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Nov 17 @ 11:17 AM ET
Duchene
Barrie
1st
2nd

Col would be nuts to due that for Malkin. Who could be a bandaid at times. Col is looking for D. Not looking to trade it away. Let's be reasonable people. Washington isn't moving Carlson.

My quote isn't working. Guess its my browser being lame?

Nashville seems like a fit. They have an abundance of young D. Ellis - Ekholm as part of a bigger deal (picks and prospect Fiala). Not getting Josi. Perhaps Weber if they need to shed the salary.

Would Minni move Dumba + + ? Could they even afford the contract?

I just can't imagine players in Pitt are happy playing this defensive style. Most certainly being drawn up by the man behind the curtain - Jacques Martins

Crosby obvioulsy isn't enjoying it.







storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Nov 17 @ 11:23 AM ET
i know this is only for poopz 'n giggles .... but

Malkin for Zibanejad, Weircioch, Thomas Chabut, JGP, Michalek +1st

Z-bad - 2nd line centre
JPG - 3rd/4th line centre
Michalek - 2nd/3rd line winger

Weircioch - 6/7 defenseman
Chabut - prospect stud defenseman


So, 2 top-tier players and 3 depth guys and a 1st round pick

- SensnRBs


Weirdcock is a scratch dman. No value. He's in every rumour cause he can't crack the lineup. Michalek is damaged goods and passed his prime. Pitt would have no interest in them.. Michalek perhaps only for salary cap reasons.

that leaves another 3rd line player (which Pitt has a million of) and Z and chabot + 1st.

Its actually not as bad as i once thought. But I believe Pitt would be looking for more help on D right now. Not having to wait for it. But not bad. Ceci may need to be the guy.


MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 17 @ 11:29 AM ET
Duchene
Barrie
1st
2nd

Col would be nuts to due that for Malkin. Who could be a bandaid at times. Col is looking for D. Not looking to trade it away. Let's be reasonable people. Washington isn't moving Carlson.

My quote isn't working. Guess its my browser being lame?

Nashville seems like a fit. They have an abundance of young D. Ellis - Ekholm as part of a bigger deal (picks and prospect Fiala). Not getting Josi. Perhaps Weber if they need to shed the salary.

Would Minni move Dumba + + ? Could they even afford the contract?

I just can't imagine players in Pitt are happy playing this defensive style. Most certainly being drawn up by the man behind the curtain - Jacques Martins

Crosby obvioulsy isn't enjoying it.

- storm88


I dont' think so and no they couldn't afford Genos cap hit.

I think they would move Spurgeon, but they'd have to include someone like Koivu and Pominville along with him in order to make cap space. Nothing about Malkin to Minnesota makes sense for the Wild. Especially with Vanek finding his game again.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Nov 17 @ 11:31 AM ET
I just don't think you can move guys like Malkin or Crosby in the era we're in. The asking price is always going to be too high. No right minded GM with a contending team is going to give up high quality depth, prospects and picks for 1 aging elite player with a mongo cap hit for another 6 years.

So you'd gain a 100 pt a year guy but at the same time unweave and weaken the fabric of your team and also trade away the future of it.

A trade of either of the two would likely only happen with a team over flowing with prospects and in the midst of a major rebuild. Buffalo, Edmonton or Florida maybe?

- MnGump


i think st. louis could make sense...especially if they see shattenkirk as expendable with parayko emerging.


SensnRBs
Ottawa Senators
Location: it ain't cheatin' if ur wife is watching, ON
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 17 @ 11:36 AM ET
Weirdcock is a scratch dman. No value.
- storm88


Not quite, but I get your point

Michalek is damaged goods and passed his prime. Pitt would have no interest in them.. Michalek perhaps only for salary cap reasons.
- storm88

my thoughts exactly ... comes off the books soon

that leaves another 3rd line player (which Pitt has a million of).
- storm88

but JGP is a centre, not a winger



and Z and chabot + 1st.

Its actually not as bad as i once thought. But I believe Pitt would be looking for more help on D right now. Not having to wait for it. But not bad. Ceci may need to be the guy.

- storm88


I thought of Ceci as well (you have to give to get), but that would leave Ottawa in waiting mode and IF they did get Gino, they would want to compete now, not wait two years for Chabot.
mnhockeyguy
Minnesota Wild
Location: Frostbite Falls, MN
Joined: 10.23.2014

Nov 17 @ 11:37 AM ET
I dont' think so and no they couldn't afford Genos cap hit.

I think they would move Spurgeon, but they'd have to include someone like Koivu and Pominville along with him in order to make cap space. Nothing about Malkin to Minnesota makes sense for the Wild. Especially with Vanek finding his game again.

- MnGump

Except for the fact that, you know, the Wild centers are sub-par...
Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames
Location: Victoria B.C., BC
Joined: 09.15.2015

Nov 17 @ 11:56 AM ET
Malkin to Colorado for Duchene, Iggy and Barrie/Johnson? That's actually not a bad trade IMO.
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

Nov 17 @ 11:56 AM ET
I dont' think so and no they couldn't afford Genos cap hit.

I think they would move Spurgeon, but they'd have to include someone like Koivu and Pominville along with him in order to make cap space. Nothing about Malkin to Minnesota makes sense for the Wild. Especially with Vanek finding his game again.

- MnGump

You could but some interesting moves would need to be made and the wild would end up over paying. Dumba Scandella Backstrom and Koivu (13.71 million combined) for Malkin Scuderi and Zatkoff (13.47 million combined).

MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 17 @ 12:06 PM ET
Except for the fact that, you know, the Wild centers are sub-par...
- mnhockeyguy

Well yeah, but the talent you'd have to part with to get a Malkin would weaken other areas of the team.

Wild finally have some nice scoring depth. As much as I would love to have an elite goal scoring center, I wouldn't want to disrupt the areas that the Wild have finally improved in in order to get him. I just don't think there's a reasonable price the Wild could pay to get it done without really disrupting the current success of the team. You're not going to get it done offering up guys like Granlund, Pommer and Spurgeon.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Nov 17 @ 12:11 PM ET
To Winnipeg: Malkin, Maata, Perron and 2016 6th round pick

To Pittsburgh: Byfuglien, Trouba, 2016 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Nov 17 @ 12:13 PM ET
It can be done.

Edler-Hamhuis-Vrbata-Jensen to Pit

Malkin-Pouliot to Van.

Get it done.

- LordHumungous


The Pens are not trading Malkin for 2 rentals, let alone throwing in their best d prospect.

I don't think the Canucks have the C to get a trade done.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Nov 17 @ 12:18 PM ET
To Winnipeg: Malkin, Maata, Perron and 2016 6th round pick

To Pittsburgh: Byfuglien, Trouba, 2016 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks.

- TheUltimateJet


Waaayyy too much for Pittsburgh to give up. Byfuglien is a rental.....
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 17 @ 12:19 PM ET
To Winnipeg: Malkin, Maata, Perron and 2016 6th round pick

To Pittsburgh: Byfuglien, Trouba, 2016 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks.

- TheUltimateJet


Doubt any GM would give up first 3 picks in the same draft year.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 17 @ 12:19 PM ET
The Pens are not trading Malkin for 2 rentals, let alone throwing in their best d prospect.

I don't think the Canucks have the C to get a trade done.

- cap1681

Sounds like Josh Bailey is your man
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 17 @ 12:20 PM ET
Doubt any GM would give up first 3 picks in the same draft year.
- MnGump

YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Nov 17 @ 12:22 PM ET
To Winnipeg: Malkin, Maata, Perron and 2016 6th round pick

To Pittsburgh: Byfuglien, Trouba, 2016 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks.

- TheUltimateJet


I know some of it seems ridiculous, and its precisely why a trade like this is so hard to pull off, but Malkin has huge value. Hockeybuzz has a way of making every superstar look bad because of their cap hit or their age, etc. while making any young prospect or blue chip guy look amazing.

Malkin is worth at a bare minimum, 3 great pieces and 1 good piece. A young above average #2 center, a top 4 D, and a top prospect/good 2nd line winger. He's not going to be traded for a centerpiece whos on an expiring contract.

Does anyone really expect a superstar to be traded for less than that? And yes, he is nothing less than a superstar. I swear some people just look at goal totals. Watch the guy play. He is usually the best player on the ice and completely takes over games. He's not going to be traded for quantity packages. And we aren't "throwing in" Maatta/Hornqvist/etc.
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 17 @ 12:24 PM ET

- eichiefs9

Oh wait....
Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Nov 17 @ 12:26 PM ET
I know some of it seems ridiculous, and its precisely why a trade like this is so hard to pull off, but Malkin has huge value. Hockeybuzz has a way of making every superstar look bad because of their cap hit or their age, etc. while making any young prospect or blue chip guy look amazing.

Malkin is worth at a bare minimum, 3 great pieces and 1 good piece. A young above average #2 center, a top 4 D, and a top prospect/good 2nd line winger. He's not going to be traded for a centerpiece whos on an expiring contract.

Does anyone really expect a superstar to be traded for less than that? And yes, he is nothing less than a superstar. I swear some people just look at goal totals. Watch the guy play. He is usually the best player on the ice and completely takes over games. He's not going to be traded for quantity packages. And we aren't "throwing in" Maatta/Hornqvist/etc.

- YouMeAndDupuis9



,^, THIS AND THANK YOU
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Nov 17 @ 12:48 PM ET
As a fans pens... I don't c the pens trading Malkin anytime soon.... If anything, coach will be replaced first....

Just for kicks... I think one trade option could be to Colorado for

Duchene
Barrie
1st Rd pick
2nd Rd pick

- Kunit


Do you want the arena as well ?

I woudnt give Duchene and the first for Malkin if I'm colorado...Cause that pick will be high..
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Nov 17 @ 12:54 PM ET
I know some of it seems ridiculous, and its precisely why a trade like this is so hard to pull off, but Malkin has huge value. Hockeybuzz has a way of making every superstar look bad because of their cap hit or their age, etc. while making any young prospect or blue chip guy look amazing.

Malkin is worth at a bare minimum, 3 great pieces and 1 good piece. A young above average #2 center, a top 4 D, and a top prospect/good 2nd line winger. He's not going to be traded for a centerpiece whos on an expiring contract.

Does anyone really expect a superstar to be traded for less than that? And yes, he is nothing less than a superstar. I swear some people just look at goal totals. Watch the guy play. He is usually the best player on the ice and completely takes over games. He's not going to be traded for quantity packages. And we aren't "throwing in" Maatta/Hornqvist/etc.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Yes because in the Joe Thorton, Patrick Roy and trade, they really got a lot back...
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Nov 17 @ 1:00 PM ET
Doubt any GM would give up first 3 picks in the same draft year.
- MnGump


Kevin Costner did !
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