I think Streit's surgery was yesterday, so the six week timetable would have him back early in January. Who knows what other injuries and roster moves will happen by then? I don't see Ghost going down if he's playing major minutes and running the top PP unit.
- Feanor

I think we should have Streit play when he comes back, proves he has worth to a contender (you know make sure he's healed from the surgery), and then trade streit and Ghost back after the trade. I don't think we'll have cap space to keep ghost up unless a trade is made.

I think we should have Streit play when he comes back, proves he has worth to a contender (you know make sure he's healed from the surgery), and then trade streit and Ghost back after the trade. I don't think we'll have cap space to keep ghost up unless a trade is made.
- 2Real

There are ways, but the easiest would be a trade. McDavids injury screws my Oilers trade scenarios!

is this improv or based on fact
- -davies-

Medvedev didn't exactly say he was injured, but there is reason to believe he is based on what he said.

Hexy claimed Medvedev has been a healthy scratch and his statement was just lost in translation

http://www.broadstreethoc...-the-evgeny-medvedev-saga

There is also reason to believe Medvedev is injured because he's a significantly better player than most, if not all of the current defenseman on the team.

BSH had a party when Manning made the team over MacDonald.

But Manning playing ahead of Medvedev is driving them craaaaazy.

The pain and confusion it's causing them is the one thing that makes seeing Manning in the lineup bearable for me.

Medvedev didn't exactly say he was injured, but there is reason to believe he is based on what he said.

Hexy claimed Medvedev has been a healthy scratch and his statement was just lost in translation

http://www.broadstreethoc...-the-evgeny-medvedev-saga

There is also reason to believe Medvedev is injured because he's a significantly better player than most, if not all of the current defenseman on the team.
- PhillySportsGuy

Shhhh
Don't talk about injuries, no one is injured, all is well.

Medvedev didn't exactly say he was injured, but there is reason to believe he is based on what he said.

Hexy claimed Medvedev has been a healthy scratch and his statement was just lost in translation

http://www.broadstreethoc...-the-evgeny-medvedev-saga

There is also reason to believe Medvedev is injured because he's a significantly better player than most, if not all of the current defenseman on the team.
- PhillySportsGuy

I almost hope he has been injured because then things would make sense. I'm just not sure if he is. I hope he enters the lineup tomorrow and is feeling better and/or Hakstol comes to his senses. This franchise and its injury reporting paranoia though

Shhhh
Don't talk about injuries, no one is injured, all is well.
- BiggE

and the Flyers are really a playoff team. all is well on this, the best of all possible hockey teams.

Ghost is in the AHL...not Juniors...slide rule does not apply
- YuenglingJagr

Generally you are right, but there are some situations -- such as Hägg last season -- when a player can slide in the AHL. In Ghost's case, this is year two of his ELC. He is RFA eligible in the summer of 2017.

Generally you are right, but there are some situations -- such as Hägg last season -- when a player can slide in the AHL. In Ghost's case, this is year two of his ELC. He is RFA eligible in the summer of 2017.
- bmeltzer

And currently the only veteran under contract for 17-18 is MacDonald (who could be headed towards a buyout). So the top 6 on opening night in 17-18 could look very, very different.

BSH had a party when Manning made the team over MacDonald.

But Manning playing ahead of Medvedev is driving them craaaaazy.

The pain and confusion it's causing them is the one thing that makes seeing Manning in the lineup bearable for me.
- Feanor

Ha

BSH had a party when Manning made the team over MacDonald.

But Manning playing ahead of Medvedev is driving them craaaaazy.

The pain and confusion it's causing them is the one thing that seeing Manning in the lineup bearable.
- Feanor

I did notice that, but I think there was more to what made everyone so happy with scratching macdonald. It showed the organization (hextall) didn't care what kind of contract you had. Showed he can manage assets. Showed how they valued Laughton.

The only thing that sucks for AMac is that he does deserve to be here. Everyone knows Vinny would be the one sent down if they could.

What annoys me most about BSH is how when one guy writes about something or makes a post...thats all that is talked about for the rest of time. Their recaps can be entertaining sometimes when I miss a game, but it usually ends up just being the same old narrative more than actual insight.

And currently the only veteran under contract for 17-18 is MacDonald (who could be headed towards a buyout). So the top 6 on opening night in 17-18 could look very, very different.
- Feanor

the defensive corps NEEDS to look very different by then. very very different.

And currently the only veteran under contract for 17-18 is MacDonald (who could be headed towards a buyout). So the top 6 on opening night in 17-18 could look very, very different.
- Feanor

LOL
The top 6 D better look radically different by 2017 or this team is royally (frank)ed

Medvedev didn't exactly say he was injured, but there is reason to believe he is based on what he said.

Hexy claimed Medvedev has been a healthy scratch and his statement was just lost in translation

http://www.broadstreethoc...-the-evgeny-medvedev-saga

There is also reason to believe Medvedev is injured because he's a significantly better player than most, if not all of the current defenseman on the team.
- PhillySportsGuy

I agree, it's about nuances. Technically, it's very possible that Medvedev has been medically cleared to play, and passed all the concussion tests, so technically he is healthy. It's also possible that Hextall and Hakstol, just want to err on the side of caution and are just giving the guy a few games off to make sure. I don't think it's a big deal.

BSH had a party when Manning made the team over MacDonald.

But Manning playing ahead of Medvedev is driving them craaaaazy.

The pain and confusion it's causing them is the one thing that makes seeing Manning in the lineup bearable for me.
- Feanor

Whatever sense it doesn't make now, it did make sense for Manning to be given a try. AMac could've been kept over multiple players: they deemed him not worth it. And they knew he'd clear waivers and could be called up at some point if and when the cap situation gets some space. Is he better than Manning? Certainly. Not exactly a high bar there though. Manning's aggressive NZ d fits the system, even if he has proven incapable of any other facet of the game at the NHL level. Fact is this team would be better off without the both of them. People were celebrating a guy being given a chance and the potential for AMac to not be here for 5 more years. It also served as a welcome thought that Hextall agreed with their assessment of AMac.

Cap aside, AMac is not better than Streit (now Ghost), Schenn, Medvedev, MDZ, or even Gudas in soft third pair minutes. Schultz isn't being removed any time soon (maybe a game, but nothing long term barring a magical trade), so where does AMac slot? That's 7 d men I just named. Some people might take Gudas off that list. Those same people probably think highly enough of Schultz to keep him in. Still 6 d men

Whatever sense it doesn't make now, it did make sense for Manning to be given a try. AMac could've been kept over multiple players: they deemed him not worth it. And they knew he'd clear waivers and could be called up at some point if and when the cap situation gets some space. Is he better than Manning? Certainly. Not exactly a high bar there though. Manning's aggressive NZ d fits the system, even if he has proven incapable of any other facet of the game at the NHL level. Fact is this team would be better off without the both of them. People were celebrating a guy being given a chance and the potential for AMac to not be here for 5 more years.

Cap aside, AMac is not better than Streit (now Ghost), Schenn, Medvedev, MDZ, or even Gudas in soft third pair minutes. Schultz isn't being removed any time soon (maybe a game, but nothing long term barring a magical trade), so where does AMac slot? That's 7 d men I just named. Some people might take Gudas off that list. Those same people probably think highly enough of Schultz to keep him in. Still 6 d men
- Mononoke

In my opinion, MacDonald is better than Schenn and Gudas as an all around player. As subpar as Schultz has played at some point, he may even be better than Schultz. I feel you need at least one of Gudas or Schenn to have that physical element.

More important that any differences in opinions on MacDonald, is what is the end game? How does the situation resolve itself? Burying 4M a year sucks, as does a buyout keeping dead money on the cap for 8 seasons.

In my opinion, MacDonald is better than Schenn and Gudas as an all around player. As subpar as Schultz has played at some point, he may even be better than Schultz. I feel you need at least one of Gudas or Schenn to have that physical element.

More important that any differences in opinions on MacDonald, is what is the end game? How does the situation resolve itself? Burying 4M a year sucks, as does a buyout keeping dead money on the cap for 8 seasons.
- MJL

Player opinion aside, it's a horrible situation. A buyout just can't happen. I have no clue how this gets resolved. I also could see him joining the team when Streit and maybe Schenn or Schultz get the inevitable trade. They could also call up a prospect like an Alt or even a Haag if he progresses in the next few months. I have no clue how this will all play out. Probably the best course of action is to play him and trade him with significant money kept, if they can.

Random question can we call up MacDonald after the TDL?

Player opinion aside, it's a horrible situation. A buyout just can't happen. I have no clue how this gets resolved. I also could see him joining the team when Streit and maybe Schenn or Schultz get the inevitable trade. They could also call up a prospect like an Alt or even a Haag if he progresses in the next few months. I have no clue how this will all play out. Probably the best course of action is to play him and trade him with significant money kept, if they can.
- Mononoke

Exactly my thoughts. I don't think he can be traded right now, but after next season, with 3 years remaining, if he returns to the NHL and can play well enough, a team may be willing to trade for him if the Flyers retain salary, say 2M. That would be a 3 year deal for 3M a year for the team taking him on. If he is not in the future plans, which is appears he is not at this point, than that is the best outcome. Before that can happen, he needs to be back in the NHL and hopefully playing well. He's a solid defender and shot blocker. He just needs to use his skating and puck skills better to make more of an impact on the other side of the puck.

The ultimate goals should be developing young players and prospects, and clearing up the cap as much as possible. They have 3 cap issues to deal with. They won't be a contending team next year in my opinion, so do what has to be done to set the team up for down the road.

Right my bad. Its the CHL that doesnt allow 18-19 year olds to play in AHL. The more you know
- YuenglingJagr

It's a joint agreement between the CHL & NHL. It's not 1 telling the other how it is going to be with players.

I think Streit's surgery was yesterday, so the six week timetable would have him back early in January. Who knows what other injuries and roster moves will happen by then? I don't see Ghost going down if he's playing major minutes and running the top PP unit.
- Feanor

I would probably argue that with the life PP1 has shown in the two games he has been up, if they continue to produce, he should stay up anyway

He's not a kid anymore. He's 22 years old, played three years of college. While I understand that he probably didn't get as mush AHL time as some might prefer, I just don't think that coddling every single young player is helpful.

I would not say that if he was 18 or 19 or 20 -- for example, Samuel Morin is exactly where he needs to be right now.

Ghost is different. Not because he is exciting and skates fast. Because he's old enough to learn and get the job done at the NHL level

Just my opinion, obviously

I would probably argue that with the life PP1 has shown in the two games he has been up, if they continue to produce, he should stay up anyway

He's not a kid anymore. He's 22 years old, played three years of college. While I understand that he probably didn't get as mush AHL time as some might prefer, I just don't think that coddling every single young player is helpful.

I would not say that if he was 18 or 19 or 20 -- for example, Samuel Morin is exactly where he needs to be right now.

Ghost is different. Not because he is exciting and skates fast. Because he's old enough to learn and get the job done at the NHL level

Just my opinion, obviously
- AllInForFlyers

I think if he continues to play well, he should stay up. Even is Streit returns to the 1st PP unit, the 2nd unit could use his shot. You play it by ear, if he doesn't seem to be struggling, why send him down?


Edit: You're correct, he is 22.

Medvedev didn't exactly say he was injured, but there is reason to believe he is based on what he said.

Hexy claimed Medvedev has been a healthy scratch and his statement was just lost in translation

http://www.broadstreethoc...-the-evgeny-medvedev-saga

There is also reason to believe Medvedev is injured because he's a significantly better player than most, if not all of the current defenseman on the team.
- PhillySportsGuy

He has to be hurt...I mean, come on. I cannot fathom a scenario where the coach looks at the defense corps without Streit and says the Russian is No. 7

Hamonic trade rumors are pretty interesting

It's a joint agreement between the CHL & NHL. It's not 1 telling the other how it is going to be with players.
- ob18

It most definitely is. You don't think the CHL is the one with something to lose?