looking forward to having Kane and Bogo back on the ice together tomorrow night. Now we just need Girgs to get healthy and we can see what this team really has.

Aren't all goals already reviewed by the stick figures in Toronto ?
- cabin

goals are....but this challenge allows video review before the play where the goal is scored, or potentially, multiple plays before the goal is scored.

1 season and done
- stashu

That sucks. That was my fave new show this fall.

Sabres89 looks like you were right about Daley with his name being out there. 2 days later EK reports it, but no Sabres mention. You hear anything else?
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

Not in the last day or so

There is absolutely zero difference in the level of scrutiny of offsides in the NHL as there is ball-spotting in the NHL. And there is absolutely zero difference in the impact that both can have on their respective games. That's the point being conveyed here.
- buffalofan19

I feel compelled to take this one on.

There is a big difference. Football is a game of independent trials. A game of inches. Every down and every inch does matter.

In hockey if you dump the puck in and a player is 1/2 inch offside and there's a puck battle on the boards for 60 seconds til finally it floats to the circle where someone snaps it...

The difference is in the advantages it gives the other team. If there is no clear advantage, often times because it takes something like 60 seconds to actually recover the puck, then it should not be review-able. The goal was won based on the battle won on the boards, not the 1/2 inch offside.

I feel compelled to take this one on.

There is a big difference. Football is a game of independent trials. A game of inches. Every down and every inch does matter.

In hockey if you dump the puck in and a player is 1/2 inch offside and there's a puck battle on the boards for 60 seconds til finally it floats to the circle where someone snaps it...

The difference is in the advantages it gives the other team. If there is no clear advantage, often times because it takes something like 60 seconds to actually recover the puck, then it should not be review-able. The goal was won based on the battle won on the boards, not the 1/2 inch offside.
- Jtr1p

post more.

NHL is always looking for more ways to open up the game and add more scoring. Why not just remove the offsides and let the play continue. What major advantage does either team have by waiting for the puck to cross the blue line first? Even if teams want to cherry pick - I say let em have at it.
Removing the 2 line pass years ago was to open up play to allow teams more scoring opportunities by creating more 2 on 1 and breakaways.

Travis Harmonic available in trade according to Elliotte Friedmann.

Another young right handed DMen.

Travis Harmonic available in trade according to Elliotte Friedmann.

Another young right handed DMen.
- JVince11

FFS is it too much to ask for a lefty to be available

NHL is always looking for more ways to open up the game and add more scoring. Why not just remove the offsides and let the play continue. What major advantage does either team have by waiting for the puck to cross the blue line first? Even if teams want to cherry pick - I say let em have at it.
Removing the 2 line pass years ago was to open up play to allow teams more scoring opportunities by creating more 2 on 1 and breakaways.
- Up2nuthun

That plan backfired a bit as coaches who were seeking total game control can and have simply packed all of their defenders at their own blue line, and then tell them to skate backwards until all 5 of them are even further congested right around the net.

That sucks. That was my fave new show this fall.
- mhp

Mine as well sir. I knew there would be several that would not be into it based on the subject matter but it is phenomenal.

I feel compelled to take this one on.

There is a big difference. Football is a game of independent trials. A game of inches. Every down and every inch does matter.

In hockey if you dump the puck in and a player is 1/2 inch offside and there's a puck battle on the boards for 60 seconds til finally it floats to the circle where someone snaps it...

The difference is in the advantages it gives the other team. If there is no clear advantage, often times because it takes something like 60 seconds to actually recover the puck, then it should not be review-able. The goal was won based on the battle won on the boards, not the 1/2 inch offside.
- Jtr1p

But if the play is called correctly, even by that half inch, that battle along the boards never should have happened.

Holy poop, Doug Flutie.

But if the play is called correctly, even by that half inch, that battle along the boards never should have happened.
- buffalofan19

Yes, exactly, it was called correctly, but that's what needs to be changed with the new challenge rule.

As currently enforced, team X can enter the attacking zone, have a player offside by an inch (which never would've been called prior to this rule, even though it was still "the rule"), they can apply sustained pressure for let's say 60 seconds, they can even lose possession in the zone and regain it until they finally score a goal......and it's all reviewable now, back to the zone entry.

Do you think that 1" had a direct impact on the goal scored? For me it's the play right when it's scored, maybe even go to the play or 2 prior at most.

Travis Harmonic available in trade according to Elliotte Friedmann.

Another young right handed DMen.
- JVince11

I would trade straight up for him, Barrie for Hamonic if he was ok playing in Colorado since he wants to go out to Western Canada.

I would trade straight up for him, Barrie for Hamonic if he was ok playing in Colorado since he wants to go out to Western Canada.
- DDM-Coga

If that's the case EDM probably all over this.

But if the play is called correctly, even by that half inch, that battle along the boards never should have happened.
- buffalofan19

We agree that the offsides won't be the determining factor in the goal scored. Therefore, if the outcome of calling the offsides and not calling the offsides is exactly the same... Why are we worried about getting it right?

If that's the case EDM probably all over this.
- Sabresfan-365

yeah but according to that report, Snow is looking for a similar guy back to make it a 1 for 1 swap, doesn't sound like they want to take a futures package for him.

So Edm would have to give up Klefbom potentially and I don't think hey do that

Yes, exactly, it was called correctly, but that's what needs to be changed with the new challenge rule.

As currently enforced, team X can enter the attacking zone, have a player offside by an inch (which never would've been called prior to this rule, even though it was still "the rule"), they can apply sustained pressure for let's say 60 seconds, they can even lose possession in the zone and regain it until they finally score a goal......and it's all reviewable now, back to the zone entry.

Do you think that 1" had a direct impact on the goal scored? For me it's the play right when it's scored, maybe even go to the play or 2 prior at most.
- nikel

It wasn't called correctly. Ennis was offside. Whistle should have blown.

staff came back to life tonight

How about we just get rid of challenges?
- dadeadhead

that would require the nhl to have high standards on refs


when was the last time a ref was demoted to the ahl for poor officiating?

Travis Harmonic available in trade according to Elliotte Friedmann.

Another young right handed DMen.
- JVince11

I have always liked him

no room for him on roster, unless they want gorges

Being that teams are used to only having 1 time out, that doesn't fix the issue of teams challenging a goal just to get the extended time out that will essentially occur while the refs are reviewing the goal.

Let's take last night for example, but we're going to change it and say that Ennis wasn't offside. The Sabres scored two quick goals. It would be a time that you traditionally would see a coach take their time out, because the team surrendered their lead on goals 50 seconds apart and now the game is tied.

In order to give his team a longer period to settle down as well as take momentum away from the team that just tied it up, the coach issues a challenge, even though he knows he's going to lose. He now gets more than 30 seconds to settle his team and the momentum the other team gained is now at a screeching halt because the refs need at minimum probably 2-3 minutes to make sure they get it right.

Shouldn't there be something to dissuade a team from doing something like that? That's where a failed challenge results in a 2 minute minor. It (should) prevent a coach from issuing the challenge in situations where it's clearly a good goal.
- HonkFortheGoose

Yeah, but that's how you get really convoluted rules. Just like when it is or is not goalie interference, variables upon variables. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

I have always liked him

no room for him on roster, unless they want gorges
- homiedclown

Considering he wants to go no further east than Winnipeg that would be difficult at best to get him. He said "western Canada".

Considering he wants to go no further east than Winnipeg that would be difficult at best to get him. He said "western Canada".
- Wetbandit1

Steve Ott is not going to STL.

And he's not a center.