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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 19 @ 1:09 PM ET
.545 vs .286
- Feanor


.455 vs .143

Yes, I'm one of those guys.

To your point though, yes, they are better with him in the lineup (even this crappy lineup) than without him.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 19 @ 1:09 PM ET
One of those guys who would complain about the Flyers if they went 41-0-41 and won the President's Trophy?

Good analogy, actually.

I was thinking along those lines watching the pupu platter of guys Hakstol tried in the middle in Couturier's absence.

- johndewar


Everybody outside the regular top 6 are getting their asses kicked in the shot attempt battle. I can't remember seeing such a clear demarcation before. After Simmonds it just falls off a cliff, although Gagner at least has the excuse of getting a strangely low OZ start %.

http://stats.hockeyanalys...rsi&sort=PCT&sortdir=DESC
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 19 @ 1:12 PM ET
One of those guys who would complain about the Flyers if they went 41-0-41 and won the President's Trophy?
- Feanor


I would only chime in when the peanut gallery started calling them undefeated with that record.

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 19 @ 1:14 PM ET
I would only chime in when the peanut gallery started calling them undefeated with that record.
- Scoob

how dare you
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 19 @ 1:15 PM ET
I would only chime in when the peanut gallery started calling them undefeated with that record.
- Scoob


That's fair, but I really do see a big difference between (for example) the SO loss to the Kings and the actual losses against Washington and Colorado.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Nov 19 @ 1:19 PM ET
That's fair, but I really do see a big difference between (for example) the SO loss to the Kings and the actual losses against Washington and Colorado.
- Feanor

Especially considering we should have had a two goal lead because that no-goal was a bs call.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 19 @ 1:20 PM ET
LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!

- ggunky

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 19 @ 1:21 PM ET
.455 vs .143

Yes, I'm one of those guys.

To your point though, yes, they are better with him in the lineup (even this crappy lineup) than without him.

- Scoob


Points percentage, bro. That is really all that matters (sans tie breakers)
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 19 @ 1:21 PM ET
That's fair, but I really do see a big difference between (for example) the SO loss to the Kings and the actual losses against Washington and Colorado.
- Feanor


The only difference is the loser point. Otherwise, a loss is a loss.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 19 @ 1:23 PM ET
Points percentage, bro. That is really all that matters (sans tie breakers)
- YuenglingJagr


Then those who want to talk about that should indicate that.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 19 @ 1:24 PM ET
.545 vs .286
- Feanor

5-6 -> 1-6 both are still records that don't make the playoffs
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 19 @ 1:25 PM ET
He's Joe from accounting. Nobody notices the good day-to-day essential work he does but when he's gone they're like "wtf is happening?"
- Scoob

This blows my "Hartnell/Umberger stool" analogy out of the water.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 19 @ 1:25 PM ET
That's fair, but I really do see a big difference between (for example) the SO loss to the Kings and the actual losses against Washington and Colorado.
- Feanor

yea the eyeball test tells your the kings are a much slower team than Wash or Colorado which is why the game was closer for us
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 19 @ 1:27 PM ET
.455 vs .143

Yes, I'm one of those guys.

To your point though, yes, they are better with him in the lineup (even this crappy lineup) than without him.

- Scoob

you're not "those" guys, "they" are "those" guys.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 19 @ 1:27 PM ET
That's fair, but I really do see a big difference between (for example) the SO loss to the Kings and the actual losses against Washington and Colorado.
- Feanor

There's a difference, sure. Still, if we're leaning on points percentage to deem a club a ".500 team", then more than two thirds of the league is above .500. It's pretty much a participation trophy.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 19 @ 1:30 PM ET
No team has less wins than the flyers


Carry on semantamaniacs
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Nov 19 @ 1:33 PM ET
No team has less wins than the flyers


Carry on...

- Just5

It's raining - which isn't too bad. And I hate you for pointing this out.



Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 19 @ 1:33 PM ET
yea the eyeball test tells your the kings are a much slower team than Wash or Colorado which is why the game was closer for us
- 2Real


I don't think it's just speed, because the Rangers are a fast team and we played even better against them than we did against the Kings.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 19 @ 1:33 PM ET
you're not "those" guys, "they" are "those" guys.
- KINGKENZO


Well, since a team that is 41-41 would finish behind a team that is 41-40-1, then nope, he's one of "those" guys
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 19 @ 1:34 PM ET
No team has less wins than the flyers


Carry on semantamaniacs

- Just5


But they're only 2 games under .500 so no need to worry.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 19 @ 1:34 PM ET
Then those who want to talk about that should indicate that.
- Scoob


Isn't that the number he indicated? I didn't really care enough to do the math, but it sure looked that way to me. This isn't baseball. A .500 team in hockey doesn't mean they have as many wins as losses. Points is how the standings are calculated
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 19 @ 1:34 PM ET
you're not "those" guys, "they" are "those" guys.
- KINGKENZO


Old school ftw!!!
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 19 @ 1:34 PM ET
There's a difference, sure. Still, if we're leaning on points percentage to deem a club a ".500 team", then more than two thirds of the league is above .500. It's pretty much a participation trophy.
- BulliesPhan87

When the NHL institutes a uniform point structure for W/L/OtW/OtL ie 3/0/2/1, then we can use point percentage, until then, win % is W/games played.

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 19 @ 1:36 PM ET
Isn't that the number he indicated? I didn't really care enough to do the math, but it sure looked that way to me. This isn't baseball. A .500 team in hockey doesn't mean they have as many wins as losses. Points is how the standings are calculated
- YuenglingJagr


He may have tried to imply it, but I definitely did not infer it.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 19 @ 1:36 PM ET
Isn't that the number he indicated? I didn't really care enough to do the math, but it sure looked that way to me. This isn't baseball. A .500 team in hockey doesn't mean they have as many wins as losses. Points is how the standings are calculated
- YuenglingJagr


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