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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 19 @ 1:37 PM ET
what happens first warriors lose a game or the sixers win a game
warriors have a tough game tonight against the clippers then they play the bulls... the sixers well they just suck
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 19 @ 1:37 PM ET
When the NHL institutes a uniform point structure for W/L/OtW/OtL ie 3/0/2/1, then we can use point percentage, until then, win % is W/games played.
- KINGKENZO

As long as we don't have to have this conversation about the postseason, I don't really mind what people choose to hang their hats on.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Nov 19 @ 1:37 PM ET
I just have to say win or lose I had a blast at the game on Tues. I don't get to go to games very often but man I can say I was at the game for Ghost's first NHL goal.

And honestly. That's what this is about. Loving the game. Getting to know and cheer for the players. Watching amazing feats of speed, skill, and bravery. And every once and awhile a well deserved beat down.
Yes I want them to win.
Just remember to breathe when we don't. Or when a particularly annoying argument comes along.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 19 @ 1:40 PM ET
As long as we don't have to have this conversation about the postseason, I don't really mind what people choose to hang their hats on.
- BulliesPhan87

as long as youre not talking to Carchidi, then you have nothing to worry about
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 19 @ 1:41 PM ET
I just have to say win or lose I had a blast at the game on Tues. I don't get to go to games very often but man I can say I was at the game for Ghost's first NHL goal.

And honestly. That's what this is about. Loving the game. Getting to know and cheer for the players. Watching amazing feats of speed, skill, and bravery. And every once and awhile a well deserved beat down.
Yes I want them to win.
Just remember to breathe when we don't. Or when a particularly annoying argument comes along.

- FlyersGrace


Preach. Best thing about Ghost being in the NHL and to a lesser extent Leier is that the team is more entertaining to watch. We already know the chance of playoffs is a longshot at best, but it is tough to swallow when we march out Nick Schlutz and RJ Umberger and try to compete.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 19 @ 1:42 PM ET
Isn't that the number he indicated? I didn't really care enough to do the math, but it sure looked that way to me. This isn't baseball. A .500 team in hockey doesn't mean they have as many wins as losses. Points is how the standings are calculated
- YuenglingJagr

a loss is a loss no matter how you spin it this team is 6-12 if you're proud of 6-12 then go (frank)ing root for the oilers
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 19 @ 1:47 PM ET
The Flyers made the Finals the last time they were .500 in wins for the season.

09-10: 41-35-6

But they were actually .537, which was just enough to make the playoffs. I'm sure you guys who insist that regulation losses and OT losses are the same refused to watch any playoff games that season out of principle.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 19 @ 1:49 PM ET
a loss is a loss no matter how you spin it this team is 6-12 if you're proud of 6-12 then go (frank)ing root for the oilers
- 2Real


No, YOU go root for the Oilers! You aren't the boss of me!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 19 @ 1:51 PM ET
No team has less wins than the flyers


Carry on semantamaniacs

- Just5



You want the team to tank to get Matthews, so what's the problem?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 19 @ 1:57 PM ET
No, YOU go root for the Oilers! You aren't the boss of me!
- AllInForFlyers


good post, SC
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 19 @ 1:57 PM ET
a loss is a loss no matter how you spin it this team is 6-12 if you're proud of 6-12 then go (frank)ing root for the oilers
- 2Real


Bettman says you are wrong.

EDIT: so do I
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 19 @ 2:01 PM ET
The Flyers made the Finals the last time they were .500 in wins for the season.

09-10: 41-35-6

But they were actually .537, which was just enough to make the playoffs. I'm sure you guys who insist that regulation losses and OT losses are the same refused to watch any playoff games that season out of principle.

- Feanor


Now you're just being defensive and silly.

The solution is easy. When discussing winning percentage, say so. When discussing points percentage, say so. That way everyone knows what you're talking about.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 19 @ 2:01 PM ET
Bettman says you are wrong.

EDIT: so do I

- YuenglingJagr

I say go look out your window. I'll piss on your head from a few floors above and tell you its raining
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Nov 19 @ 2:02 PM ET
Imagine comparing the batting averages of MLB players with one group of players facing major league pitchers, versus another facing AA ball pitchers.

Or rating shooters in basketball with one player shooting from 10 feet, and another shooting from 20 feet and calling the player shooting from 20 feet a poor shooter because he doesn't score as much as the guy shooting from 10 feet.

- MJL


I'm not sure about your analogies, but I get your point...can't compare apples and oranges. But the fact is, you need produce at all levels to become (and remain) a professional athlete.

Regarding the Flyers, we're a goal starved team and everybody (this season) deserves some of the blame.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 19 @ 2:04 PM ET
Now you're just being defensive and silly.

The solution is easy. When discussing winning percentage, say so. When discussing points percentage, say so. That way everyone knows what you're talking about.

- Scoob


There's no reason to discuss "winning percentage" in hockey anymore. Points percentage is all that has mattered since 1999-00.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Nov 19 @ 2:05 PM ET
I say go look out your window. I'll piss on your head from a few floors above and tell you its raining
- KINGKENZO


But it is raining.

Still, not looking out any windows...and wtf are you doing in my house!?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 19 @ 2:07 PM ET
But it is raining.

Still, not looking out any windows...and wtf are you doing in my house!?

- wolfhounds

Not in the house, on the house.

Piddler on the Roof, a KINGKENZO Production.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 19 @ 2:09 PM ET
There's no reason to discuss "winning percentage" in hockey anymore. Points percentage is all that has mattered since 1999-00.
- Feanor


It's a false measure of how good a team is, and isn't worth mentioning.

Imho, of course.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Nov 19 @ 2:09 PM ET
Score a goal once in a while, he stinks offensively. You would marry Couterier if you could.
- ClaudeFather





He actually can't. Because I married Cuoturyeyh last Saturday. It was a beautiful ceremony, and I only wish you could have been there
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 19 @ 2:09 PM ET
I say go look out your window. I'll piss on your head from a few floors above and tell you its raining
- KINGKENZO


You can say I am just being an optimist, but really it's just being a realist. The Flyers make the playoffs by having enough points to make the playoffs. If the Flyers are 0-0-82. They could still make the playoffs if 82 points is good enough for WC2 place.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 19 @ 2:09 PM ET
But it is raining.

Still, not looking out any windows...and wtf are you doing in my house!?

- wolfhounds


YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 19 @ 2:12 PM ET
Now you're just being defensive and silly.

The solution is easy. When discussing winning percentage, say so. When discussing points percentage, say so. That way everyone knows what you're talking about.

- Scoob


If he was discussing winning percentage, he would have written the winning percentage
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 19 @ 2:12 PM ET
You can say I am just being an optimist, but really it's just being a realist. The Flyers make the playoffs by having enough points to make the playoffs. If the Flyers are 0-0-82. They could still make the playoffs if 82 points is good enough for 8th place.
- YuenglingJagr


Well then, just do away with tracking the W-L-OTL-SOL-SOLBFGA*. Just show points.


* shoot out loss but feels good anyway (aka loss to the Kings)
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 19 @ 2:13 PM ET
It's a false measure of how good a team is, and isn't worth mentioning.

Imho, of course.

- Scoob


Points are how they determine playoff positions, not wins. Point percentage is just used during the season when teams have played an unequal number of games.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 19 @ 2:13 PM ET


He actually can't. Because I married Cuoturyeyh last Saturday. It was a beautiful ceremony, and I only wish you could have been there

- Mononoke


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