It's how they determine playoff positions.
- Feanor

No, points percentage is not how they determine playoff positions.

Positions are determined by points, with tie breakers decided by ROW.

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- BulliesPhan87

Point percentage is just used during the season when teams have played an unequal number of games.
- Feanor

Imho, points percentage is used by fans of teams who don't want to acknowledge just how sucky their team is.

No, points percentage is not how they determine playoff positions.

Positions are determined by points, with tie breakers decided by ROW.
- Scoob

Math wasn't your strong suit, was it?

No, points percentage is not how they determine playoff positions.

Positions are determined by points, with tie breakers decided by ROW.
- Scoob

At the end of the season you can order the teams by points or points percentage and the order will not change. Try it and see.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...15&gameType=2&aggregate=0

Math wasn't your strong suit, was it?
- YuenglingJagr

It's not the same thing. When two teams are tied for the 8th playoff spot with the same points percentage, one of them isn't getting in.

At the end of the season you can order the teams by points or points percentage and the order will not change.
- Feanor

Well, duh, that's a mathematical truth.

41-41-0 = 82 points

20-20-42 = 82 points

Same points percentage. Assuming they are tied for the 8th spot, who gets into the playoffs?

- KINGKENZO

Edelman?

I'm not sure about your analogies, but I get your point...can't compare apples and oranges. But the fact is, you need produce at all levels to become (and remain) a professional athlete.

Regarding the Flyers, we're a goal starved team and everybody (this season) deserves some of the blame.
- wolfhounds

Certainly not perfect analogies, but it seems to have gotten the point across. I agree with your latter statement.

Well, duh, that's a mathematical truth.

41-41-0 = 82 points

20-20-42 = 82 points

Same points percentage. Assuming they are tied for the 8th spot, who gets into the playoffs?
- Scoob

As you already said, ROW is the tiebreaker.

However Philly finished ahead of CBJ in 13-14 despite having fewer wins. Because points are more important than wins.

I can't wait for when the Flyers have a goalsplosion and we love everyone on the team again. That will be glorious.

And it will likely happen tonight, because I won't be able to watch the game live. I'll be depending on gifs posted to twitter for in game highlights.

As you already said, ROW is the tiebreaker.
- Feanor

Therefore, as I also said, points percentage is not the determining factor for playoff positions.

However Philly finished ahead of CBJ in 13-14 despite having fewer wins. Because points are more important than wins.

Perfect example of why the loser point is a travesty. The current system improperly rewards failure.

It's not the same thing. When two teams are tied for the 8th playoff spot with the same points percentage, one of them isn't getting in.
- Scoob

I never disagreed that ROW is the tiebreaker. You at least got that right, but points percentage is what matters in this league and that is what gets teams into the playoffs. Winning percentage is for the other sports. That is not a matter of opinion, it is a fact.

You can use whatever stats you want to say the Flyers aren't a good team, but trying to say points percentage matters less than win percentage just causes people to make assumptions about you.

Therefore, as I also said, points percentage is not the determining factor for playoff positions.



Perfect example of why the loser point is a travesty. The current system improperly rewards failure.
- Scoob

The problem isn't that it rewards failure, because in that situation, a team didn't fail or lose the game in regulation play. The problem is that some games are worth 2 points, and some are worth 3 points.

Therefore, as I also said, points percentage is not the determining factor for playoff positions.
- Scoob

Lol you really can't just say you were wrong and move on. You said points were the determining factor, so I guess you were wrong as well

0-0-82... could still make the playoffs if 82 points is good enough for WC2 place.
- YuenglingJagr

I would really really really want to see this happen.

The problem isn't that it rewards failure, because in that situation, a team didn't fail or lose the game in regulation play. The problem is that some games are worth 2 points, and some are worth 3 points.
- MJL

I would love if they went to 3 point games. The whole idea that the loser point creates tighter playoff races is just kinda stupid. A team can make up more ground if they repeatedly win in regulation

I would really really really want to see this happen.
- Tomahawk

Lol 82 losses in the shootout. They would win the cup that year

but points percentage is what matters in this league
- YuenglingJagr

Not when it comes to determining who gets into the playoffs, and that's all that really matters.

You can use whatever stats you want to say the Flyers aren't a good team, but trying to say points percentage matters less than win percentage just causes people to make assumptions about you.

That's their problem, not mine.

The problem isn't that it rewards failure, because in that situation, a team didn't fail or lose the game in regulation play. The problem is that some games are worth 2 points, and some are worth 3 points.
- MJL

Right, that's the ultimate problem. Were all games treated equally, I'd still have a problem with awarding a point to the team that didn't win the game.

Lol 82 losses in the shootout. They would win the cup that year
- YuenglingJagr

If it would make Don Cherry's head actually explode, I'd be in favor of this.

Right, that's the ultimate problem. Were all games treated equally, I'd still have a problem with awarding a point to the team that didn't win the game.
- Scoob

The flip side of that is that they didn't lose the game either.

Lol you really can't just say you were wrong and move on. You said points were the determining factor, so I guess you were wrong as well
- YuenglingJagr

It's a two step process.

Step 1: rank teams by points
Step 2 (if necessary) : break ties using ROW

When the league adds a column for points percentage I will rethink my position on it's validity in determining playoff position.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm

The problem isn't that it rewards failure, because in that situation, a team didn't fail or lose the game in regulation play. The problem is that some games are worth 2 points, and some are worth 3 points.
- MJL

Yup.

I would love if they went to 3 point games. The whole idea that the loser point creates tighter playoff races is just kinda stupid. A team can make up more ground if they repeatedly win in regulation
- YuenglingJagr

Exactly, but the current system is skewed toward "well, at least don't lose in regulation"