It is. I know he's good, but (at least every time I watch) he takes a penalty like every third shift. Frankly, I'm not all that interested in him.
- eichiefs9

But the PIMS

But the PIMS
- SRam19

I'll trade Hamonic for him on my fantasy team.

No one is throwing that deal at a 31 year old with conditioning issues.
- djamon

Never noticed these issues last game.

Unsure of Buff's demands, but if I was the Jets, I'd rather Buff at 7 than Ladd at 6.5

I'd take him over Dion too.

Never noticed these issues last game.

Unsure of Buff's demands, but if I was the Jets, I'd rather Buff at 7 than Ladd at 6.5

I'd take him over Dion too.
- hillbillydeluxe

When he's on he can look like a top 10 d-man, but that's not always. He has had conditioning issues in the past with both Chicago and Winnipeg, it's the reason he's on the block to begin with I assume.

I don't think many would argue that Dion would get a 6 x 7m today. Two years ago, much more likely. I know the Dion hate is strong, but his track record prior to his current deal was much better than Buffy's is right now.

I admittedly don't watch enough Western Canadian hockey to have a fair opinion...so let's not all freak out if I say something uninformed here :

I'm listing them in order of who I think is most likely a partner with the Isles, not my own order of preference

- WPG: Hometown for Travis, most logical. I would hope Snow pushes hard for a 1-for-1 deal with Trouba, but that's not likely. So I could see Myers and something else coming our way.

after that..it's kind of a crapshoot.

I don't see the Flames moving Gio, Brodie, or Hamilton...and if that's the case then there's no business to be done there. Pass on Wideman and Russell.

VAN has Tanev, but I think would need to add something to sweeten the pot.

EDM I have no idea the reality of them moving Eberle, but I'd be fine with Eberle and Klefbom for Hamonic and something else (Okposo is a pending UFA and won't be re-signed).
- eichiefs9

Why is Edmonton giving up that much ???
I agree on the flames deals and I think the jets are in no rush to trade trouba
The tanev + deal is the only one I see

The thing is...he requested a trade. Not demanded one.

He spoke about it today and publicly said that he'll play out the entire season if need be. Snow is trying to accommodate him as best he can, but that doesn't mean he is going to get taken to the cleaners on a deal. He is under zero deadline to get this done immediately, so the Islanders do have plenty of bargaining power. Maybe not as much as they would have had they just put Hamonic on the block under different circumstances, but they still have enough to leverage a deal in their favor.

All it takes is one GM that wants to get a deal done sooner rather than later to offer up a nice package, then his price is set.
- eichiefs9

Every fan on these sites were offering up crap for Evander Kane because he wanted out of winnipeg and everyone said Jets had no leverage. they did pretty good. the whole leverage argument is always blown out of proportion

When players actually start admitting they would rather be somewhere else, and team mates are aware of this, as in Hamonic's situation, it is not an issue at first, but as time goes on it can be.

Maybe Garth will be the one GM that wants to move on from this and settle for a little less? Maybe Garth will take a forward and not so ready d prospect?
- hillbillydeluxe

Evander wanted out of Winnipeg while the team was still playing in Atlanta, Jets made the little whinner wait and got a good price for him

If proximity to home is the issue for Hamonic, how is Vancouver the solution? Google maps tells me that Van is 2313 KMs from Winnipeg. Brooklyn is 2677. That's not a huge difference...

Every fan on these sites were offering up crap for Evander Kane because he wanted out of winnipeg and everyone said Jets had no leverage. they did pretty good. the whole leverage argument is always blown out of proportion
- Ross77

Fair point. But you did get a little lucky dealing with Tim Murray who may be the worst trader in the NHL. Plus, I don't think the deal was all that lopsided. Myers has been struggling from what I've read.

The reported teams were WPG and the Western Canadian teams. So far, that's it. I could speculate, but that's all it would be until they reported that other teams are in the mix as well. I would imagine that they won't want to trade him in-conference.
- eichiefs9

Minn, Chi and Det are all closer to Winnipeg than Van.

Minn, Chi and Det are all closer to Winnipeg than Van.
- A_SteamingLombardi

BC Bud is out here though

Minn, Chi and Det are all closer to Winnipeg than Van.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Again, I don't need a geography lesson. I'm not creating these hypothetical trading partners out of thin air. The reported teams that Hamonic is looking to be traded to are WPG or any of the 3 Western Canadian teams. Until there's another team that he's willing to go to publicly, it's just speculation.

I read on Twitter Dreger said Canucks and Isles haven't even talked yet

If proximity to home is the issue for Hamonic, how is Vancouver the solution? Google maps tells me that Van is 2313 KMs from Winnipeg. Brooklyn is 2677. That's not a huge difference...
- nucks_94

Maybe he wants out of the states. I wouldn't blame him, those Americans are nuts.

Maybe he wants out of the states. I wouldn't blame him, those Americans are nuts.
- Scooby_Doo

His risk of an ISIS attack goes down, that's for sure.

If proximity to home is the issue for Hamonic, how is Vancouver the solution? Google maps tells me that Van is 2313 KMs from Winnipeg. Brooklyn is 2677. That's not a huge difference...
- nucks_94

Normally in these cases with trade requests there is more to the Story. Not taking anything away from the truth of Hamonic's family situation but I'm willing to bet there is more to the trade request...which is fine.

Tanev is not enough for Hamonic. If Snow bites on that great but new will have to throw in something maybe a 2nd-3rd to get it done. Hamonic has much more statistical upside than Tanev.

I read on Twitter Dreger said Canucks and Isles haven't even talked yet
- VANTEL

I bet they have...it just hasn't leaked yet.

Maybe he wants out of the states. I wouldn't blame him, those Americans are nuts.
- Scooby_Doo

Maybe Tavares (frank)ed his girlfriend.

I bet they have...it just hasn't leaked yet.
- LordHumungous

Yeah what the hell does Dreger know about the Canucks.

Normally in these cases with trade requests there is more to the Story. Not taking anything away from the truth of Hamonic's family situation but I'm willing to bet there is more to the trade request...which is fine.

Tanev is not enough for Hamonic. If Snow bites on that great but new will have to throw in something maybe a 2nd-3rd to get it done. Hamonic has much more statistical upside than Tanev.
- LordHumungous

Tanev and shink ?

His risk of an ISIS attack goes down, that's for sure.
- eichiefs9

Little does he know, Trudeau is letting in a bunch of refugees/terrorists over the coming months.

Little does he know, Trudeau is letting in a bunch of refugees/terrorists over the coming months.
- Scooby_Doo

Yeah well I live in NYC where bleeding-heart, (frank)face mayor Bill DiBlasio will roll out the red carpet and even present them with a commemorative limited edition detonator and a bag of drywall screws.

Tanev and shink ?
- Redmile247

Seems fair, but who are we kidding? Replacing Tanev with Hamonic isn't going to solve the Canucks D problems. The problems are named Edler, Hamhuis, Bartkowski, Sbisa, Weber etc.

Posted these tweets in the Isles thread, figured they'd be relevant to our conversation here:

Chris Nichols ‏@NicholsOnHockey 3m3 minutes ago
McKenzie: "I just can't imagine - I'd be shocked... if the #NHLJets were to give up on a guy like Trouba." #Hamonic #Isles

Chris Nichols ‏@NicholsOnHockey 7m7 minutes ago
McKenzie: "I would be very surprised if the #mnwild were not talking to the #Isles about Travis Hamonic."

Chris Nichols ‏@NicholsOnHockey 8m8 minutes ago
McKenzie: "Winnipeg and Edmonton would be two of the absolute front-runners that would want this player." #Hamonic #Isles #NHLJets #Oilers

Chris Nichols ‏@NicholsOnHockey 36m36 minutes ago
LeBrun: "I don't think it's just the Western Canadian teams either. I think Snow, #Isles have spoken to some U.S. teams as well." #Hamonic

Chris Nichols ‏@NicholsOnHockey 38m38 minutes ago
LeBrun: "Certainly #Oilers are in the mix, and they have been for awhile." My sense is asking price on Hamonic too high right now. #Isles

Tanev and shink ?
- Redmile247

Shink is a 4 th liner