Oh right - forgot.
- docmorgan

by all accounts of what i've read online, the isles have one the most cohesive rooms in the nhl and that's because of capuano and tavares. they've known about this all year and it hasnt changed the dynamic. players know there's two trading seasons, one thanksgiving to xmas and the deadline, that guys will be moved in/out but that when you wear the same sweater you're going to war together.

That being said, the canucks need to land this one. I'd sooner move hutton than Tanev, but I also think you need to try and get this done with Hamhuis, picks and prospects. Hammer/Demko/Shinkaruk? does Burrows have any value to NYI? how about Vrbata? The canucks have the talent to get the deal done, but I suspect he ends up elsewhere.

by all accounts of what i've read online, the isles have one the most cohesive rooms in the nhl and that's because of capuano and tavares. they've known about this all year and it hasnt changed the dynamic. players know there's two trading seasons, one thanksgiving to xmas and the deadline, that guys will be moved in/out but that when you wear the same sweater you're going to war together.

That being said, the canucks need to land this one. I'd sooner move hutton than Tanev, but I also think you need to try and get this done with Hamhuis, picks and prospects. Hammer/Demko/Shinkaruk? does Burrows have any value to NYI? how about Vrbata? The canucks have the talent to get the deal done, but I suspect he ends up elsewhere.
- Max.Betts

Hutton will have a lot more offensive skills than Tanev in two years

I'm a geography major. How is Vancouver a better option than New York if he's from Manitoba? And why aren't the Leafs or Sens included in this "list"?
- Scooby_Doo

1 flight n no customs..say no more

by all accounts of what i've read online, the isles have one the most cohesive rooms in the nhl and that's because of capuano and tavares. they've known about this all year and it hasnt changed the dynamic. players know there's two trading seasons, one thanksgiving to xmas and the deadline, that guys will be moved in/out but that when you wear the same sweater you're going to war together.

That being said, the canucks need to land this one. I'd sooner move hutton than Tanev, but I also think you need to try and get this done with Hamhuis, picks and prospects. Hammer/Demko/Shinkaruk? does Burrows have any value to NYI? how about Vrbata? The canucks have the talent to get the deal done, but I suspect he ends up elsewhere.
- Max.Betts

Snow won't take a pending ufa is what I'm reading.

Hutton will have a lot more offensive skills than Tanev in two years
- VANTEL

I'd like tanev more than Hutton if I'm snow. He needs a proven d back or one who has more history to go on. I'd still want trouba in this situation but don't know if the jets would do it.

Please no more Higgins or edler talk though. I've seen a lot of them and I know what you guys think of them.

1 flight n no customs..say no more
- Nighthawk

I think that's it. Apparently no direct flights to Winnipeg from long island.

I'd like tanev more than Hutton if I'm snow. He needs a proven d back or one who has more history to go on. I'd still want trouba in this situation but don't know if the jets would do it.
- Isles_since_6

Trouba aint going anywhere

All due respect, but Higgins is, as you guys put it last night, where offense goes to die and edler isn’t play like a top pairing or even top four guy on a contender, plus he’s older, more expensive and has brain cramps more often than my ex had cramps.

That’s two crappy pieces for arguably the islanders best all around defenseman, on a long term deal with a ridiculously low cap hit and no restrictions on trades in his contract. You’re gonna have to do a LOT better than edler and Higgins.
- Isles_since_6

My main concern is, we have only seen a fairly small sample size with respect to Hamonic. From what I've seen of him (and that's unfortunatley not too much) he's a solid top 4 guy who battles hard and occasionaly contributes offense (albeit, for whatever reason - not so much this year). I think Tanev for Hamonic should be enough, and there shouldn't be any reason to sweeten the deal with someone like Shinkaruk who is starting to look like the real deal. I guess what I"m saying is, I'm not quite sold on Hamonic at this time, but can see that there might be some upside there. Nonetheless, I wouldn't be throwing out additional players into the mix (Higgins is much maligned but he's a solid two way presence and chips in with some offense as well)

My main concern is, we have only seen a fairly small sample size with respect to Hamonic. From what I've seen of him (and that's unfortunatley not too much) he's a solid top 4 guy who battles hard and occasionaly contributes offense (albeit, for whatever reason - not so much this year). I think Tanev for Hamonic should be enough, and there shouldn't be any reason to sweeten the deal with someone like Shinkaruk who is starting to look like the real deal. I guess what I"m saying is, I'm not quite sold on Hamonic at this time, but can see that there might be some upside there. Nonetheless, I wouldn't be throwing out additional players into the mix (Higgins is much maligned but he's a solid two way presence and chips in with some offense as well)
- Zogg

I know we're biased (as nucks fans), but i agree with you Zogg.
I would not be adding much if Tanev was included (eg SHink).
It's all for naught anyways, makes most sense to go to Winnipeg for Myers.

Anybody know the deal on if a player is claimed on waivers and whether he has to be on the roster? Corrado has finished his conditioning stint now and I understand the TML can't find a roster spot for him.
- docmorgan

Yeah, I'm missing something because it looks like they list 26 players, that includes Horton and Robidas... can't see anyone else injured or they haven't updated the roster.

Couldn't see on NHL.com an official roster, got redirect to the tml site.

http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/roster.htm

I know we're biased (as nucks fans), but i agree with you Zogg.
I would not be adding much if Tanev was included (eg SHink).
It's all for naught anyways, makes most sense to go to Winnipeg for Myers.
- dbot

Hamonic would be our best D , he is an upgrade on Tanev. That is why we would need to add. I am sure most outsiders would be laughing if they seen us think we could do Tanev for Hamonic straight up

Yeah, I'm missing something because it looks like they list 26 players, that includes Horton and Robidas... can't see anyone else injured or they haven't updated the roster.

Couldn't see on NHL.com an official roster, got redirect to the tml site.

http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/roster.htm
- hillbillydeluxe

General fanager has Leafs listed at 23 including Corrado

Hamonic would be our best D , he is an upgrade on Tanev. That is why we would need to add. I am sure most outsiders would be laughing if they seen us think we could do Tanev for Hamonic straight up
- VANTEL

Yeah, but in the context of Hamonic requesting a trade to Western Canada...
I can see Tanev plus for Hamonic, but not plus Shink.

Just like Canucks fans were expecting the moon for Kesler, and many were disappointed with the package, i could see the same playing out here for Islander's fans

General fanager has Leafs listed at 23 including Corrado
- VANTEL

Looks like Granberg is listed on the roster on the tml team site, on generalfanager, it has Granberg listed as Non-Roster IR (1)... Don't know what this means.

Yeah, but in the context of Hamonic requesting a trade to Western Canada...
I can see Tanev plus for Hamonic, but not plus Shink.

Just like Canucks fans were expecting the moon for Kesler, and many were disappointed with the package, i could see the same playing out here for Islander's fans
- dbot

Shink is a 4 th liner . He has one game experience. That is not what I really think but it is so far what the Canucks have shown they think of Shink.

There will probably be about 20 teams interested. Islanders will take the best offer .

Canucks could have got a lot more but Kesler screwed us by saying he would only go to one team. We still got Sutter MCCann Dorsett and Sbisa for Kesler

Dale Weise with a beard
- A_SteamingLombardi

My main concern is, we have only seen a fairly small sample size with respect to Hamonic. From what I've seen of him (and that's unfortunatley not too much) he's a solid top 4 guy who battles hard and occasionaly contributes offense (albeit, for whatever reason - not so much this year). I think Tanev for Hamonic should be enough, and there shouldn't be any reason to sweeten the deal with someone like Shinkaruk who is starting to look like the real deal. I guess what I"m saying is, I'm not quite sold on Hamonic at this time, but can see that there might be some upside there. Nonetheless, I wouldn't be throwing out additional players into the mix (Higgins is much maligned but he's a solid two way presence and chips in with some offense as well)
- Zogg

Small sample size? He's played 340+ games, 6 years and for most of it his partner was Andrew Macdonald. You may not have seen him much but he manhandled Malkin two years ago in the playoffs and was the only decent defenseman we had in that series, with amac and streit who was a pilon against the pens. This guy is our best all around defenseman and a leader, if he didn't want out I'd say he would retire as an islanders, and he makes less than tanev for 4 more years after this. Find me a 25 y/o d that can play top pairing on most teams, captain material who plays mean, has some offense and can skate for even close to that contract. These guys never get traded.

Hamonic would be our best D , he is an upgrade on Tanev. That is why we would need to add. I am sure most outsiders would be laughing if they seen us think we could do Tanev for Hamonic straight up
- VANTEL

That isn't saying much.

I don't get why everyone is saying how good Hamonic is etc... He hasn't really done much at the NHL level, and doesn't have that much upside beyond what he's giving.

I would be mortified if Benning sent Tanev and Boeser for Hamonic. Unfortunately it's something I could see Benning do, or another top prospect like Demko.

Shink is a 4 th liner . He has one game experience. That is not what I really think but it is so far what the Canucks have shown they think of Shink.

There will probably be about 20 teams interested. Islanders will take the best offer .

Canucks could have got a lot more but Kesler screwed us by saying he would only go to one team. We still got Sutter MCCann Dorsett and Sbisa for Kesler
- VANTEL

We did just fine in the Kesler deal now that some time has passed.

I really hope JB is calling on Hamonic. This is almost an impassable opportunity. Would I throw Hansen with Tanev to get it done? Absolutely. Gotta give to get and I think Hamonic has more upside than both Hansen and Tanev long-term. Hamonic would fit beautifully with Hutton.

That isn't saying much.

I don't get why everyone is saying how good Hamonic is etc... He hasn't really done much at the NHL level, and doesn't have that much upside beyond what he's giving.

I would be mortified if Benning sent Tanev and Boeser for Hamonic. Unfortunately it's something I could see Benning do, or another top prospect like Demko.
- Scooby_Doo

Horvat JV MCCann Boeser would never be part of the deal

We did just fine in the Kesler deal now that some time has passed.

I really hope JB is calling on Hamonic. This is almost an impassable opportunity. Would I throw Hansen with Tanev to get it done? Absolutely. Gotta give to get and I think Hamonic has more upside than both Hansen and Tanev long-term. Hamonic would fit beautifully with Hutton.
- LordHumungous

We clearly won that trade

That isn't saying much.

I don't get why everyone is saying how good Hamonic is etc... He hasn't really done much at the NHL level, and doesn't have that much upside beyond what he's giving.

I would be mortified if Benning sent Tanev and Boeser for Hamonic. Unfortunately it's something I could see Benning do, or another top prospect like Demko.
- Scooby_Doo

Boeser and Demko are going nowhere.

Hamonic hasn't done much this season...yet. Did you not see his stats from last year?

Impressive.

We clearly won that trade
- VANTEL

Big time.