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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Nov 19 @ 7:42 PM ET
Boeser and Demko are going nowhere.

Hamonic hasn't done much this season...yet. Did you not see his stats from last year?

Impressive.

- LordHumungous


5 goals 28 assists is impressive?

Edler had better numbers last year...
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 19 @ 7:47 PM ET
5 goals 28 assists is impressive?

Edler had better numbers last year...

- Scooby_Doo

Edler 31 pts last which is not bad but nowhere near right now where he was projected to be. Again, much higher upside with Hamonic IMO.

Hamonic is trending up...Edler down.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 19 @ 7:49 PM ET
That isn't saying much.

I don't get why everyone is saying how good Hamonic is etc... He hasn't really done much at the NHL level, and doesn't have that much upside beyond what he's giving.

I would be mortified if Benning sent Tanev and Boeser for Hamonic. Unfortunately it's something I could see Benning do, or another top prospect like Demko.

- Scooby_Doo

I don't think you've seen hamonic play often. The only thing that would have made me more frustrated and bitter than hamonic requesting a trade would be losing Tavares. Hamonic is going to be loved by the fan base who gets him. Very bad situation for us.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Nov 19 @ 7:49 PM ET
Edler 31 pts last which is not bad but nowhere near right now where he was projected to be. Again, much higher upside with Hamonic IMO.
- LordHumungous


I think Edler stinks. I'd be happy to trade him and a prospect or pick for Hamonic.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Nov 19 @ 7:51 PM ET
I don't think you've seen hamonic play often. The only thing that would have made me more frustrated and bitter than hamonic requesting a trade would be losing Tavares. Hamonic is going to be loved by the fan base who gets him. Very bad situation for us.
- Isles_since_6


To be honest I have hardly seen him play at all. Islanders games aren't televised that often out here.

I'm going off his stats, which are not as impressive as you or most people here are making them out to be. Coupled that with an obvious personal issue, I do t see you guys get full value for him. Who knows, the kid could retire in 2 years.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 19 @ 8:14 PM ET
To be honest I have hardly seen him play at all. Islanders games aren't televised that often out here.

I'm going off his stats, which are not as impressive as you or most people here are making them out to be. Coupled that with an obvious personal issue, I do t see you guys get full value for him. Who knows, the kid could retire in 2 years.

- Scooby_Doo

This isn't a finesse defenseman. This is a guy who, hits(leads nhl defensemen in hits this year) fights, blocks shots and can add some offence and is able to skate. If you only look at his stats you have no clue, to be frank.

Edit- he's dropped to 13th in the league overall (including forwards) in hits now I see, my edit. You won't see his value through simple offensive points
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Nov 19 @ 8:20 PM ET
This isn't a finesse defenseman. This is a guy who, hits(leads nhl defensemen in hits this year) fights, blocks shots and can add some offence and is able to skate. If you only look at his stats you have no clue, to be frank.
- Isles_since_6


He fought 3 times last year, twice the year before and once the year before that. To be frank, doesn't look like you have a clue about him either.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 19 @ 8:21 PM ET
To be honest I have hardly seen him play at all. Islanders games aren't televised that often out here.

I'm going off his stats, which are not as impressive as you or most people here are making them out to be. Coupled that with an obvious personal issue, I do t see you guys get full value for him. Who knows, the kid could retire in 2 years.

- Scooby_Doo

I watch the Islanders on occasion, probably half dozen games a year, Hamonic is good, not great, but good. He does a bit of everything and he's got an edge to his game.

Not really a top pairing kinda guy but definitely top four on a decent team. Depends who he plays with (team) that dictates his value.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 19 @ 8:23 PM ET
He fought 3 times last year, twice the year before and once the year before that. To be frank, doesn't look like you have a clue about him either.
- Scooby_Doo
go find a top four guy with that icetime who fights more.

If you haven't seen him, this is pointless. Talk to the other canucks fans who have, you obviously have no interest in my opinion
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 19 @ 8:23 PM ET
He fought 3 times last year, twice the year before and once the year before that. To be frank, doesn't look like you have a clue about him either.
- Scooby_Doo

That is 3 more times that Tanev and Edler have fought in their career
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 19 @ 8:23 PM ET
I watch the Islanders on occasion, probably half dozen games a year, Hamonic is good, not great, but good. He does a bit of everything and he's got an edge to his game.

Not really a top pairing kinda guy but definitely top four on a decent team. Depends who he plays with (team) that dictates his value.

- LeftCoaster


I'd rather move anyone else on our blueline.
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Nov 19 @ 8:24 PM ET
Trading for a dman because he fights more is (frank)ing stupid
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Nov 19 @ 8:25 PM ET
That is 3 more times that Tanev and Edler have fought in their career
- VANTEL


Fighting is being removed from the game, wouldn't be a reason to trade for someone.

Hamonic is 45th in the league in blocked shots.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 19 @ 8:26 PM ET
I'd rather move anyone else on our blueline.
- Isles_since_6

Probably why you're on here talking about hockey with us and not working in the game
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Nov 19 @ 8:27 PM ET
Trading for a dman because he fights more is (frank)ing stupid
- nucks_94


The more I learn about this player, the more I want to shy away from the trade. Do we really need to add someone with personal issues to be around our young players? I say pass on him, unless they are willing to take Edler.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 19 @ 8:29 PM ET
The more I learn about this player, the more I want to shy away from the trade. Do we really need to add someone with personal issues to be around our young players? I say pass on him, unless they are willing to take Edler.
- Scooby_Doo

Edler's our best defenseman, sadly
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Nov 19 @ 8:32 PM ET
Edler's our best defenseman, sadly
- LeftCoaster

False. Although Tanev does not posses the offensive prowess others do I would want him on the ice anytime over Edler when its comes to crunch time in a tight game.

I would consider his defence is more valuable than Edlers offense.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 19 @ 8:32 PM ET
Fighting is being removed from the game, wouldn't be a reason to trade for someone.

Hamonic is 45th in the league in blocked shots.

- Scooby_Doo

Sbisa wished fighting was removed years ago. They will never get rid of fighting . Too many fans love it.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 19 @ 8:33 PM ET
Probably why you're on here talking about hockey with us and not working in the game
- LeftCoaster

Lol, you could say that about all of us I suppose. I'm extremely bitter we're going to lose him and I know we won't get equal value. When someone thinks he's less valuable than edler, that's going to set me off at the moment.

Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Nov 19 @ 8:34 PM ET
Edler's our best defenseman, sadly
- LeftCoaster


Oh right sorry.

I'd hate to give him up, but the only way we get Hamonic is if we give away our stud defenceman Edler. He's been great this year, such a rock back there, but we'd have to part with him in this deal. Just kills me thinking about losing him, and what it would mean to our power play, but it's got to be done.

LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 19 @ 8:35 PM ET
False. Although Tanev does not posses the offensive prowess others do I would want him on the ice anytime over Edler when its comes to crunch time in a tight game.

I would consider his defence is more valuable than Edlers offense.

- vancity787

No, you're wrong, although Edler has had some bonehead plays this year, so has Tanev, he's still their best all-around defenseman.

Leads the team in minutes played, leading defenseman in scoring and he's third on the team in +/-.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 19 @ 8:37 PM ET
Lol, you could say that about all of us I suppose. I'm extremely bitter we're going to lose him and I know we won't get equal value. When someone thinks he's less valuable than edler, that's going to set me off at the moment.
- Isles_since_6

I'm trying to think of a good comparable. Trouba?
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Nov 19 @ 8:37 PM ET
No, you're wrong, although Edler has had some bonehead plays this year, so has Tanev, he's still their best all-around defenseman.

Leads the team in minutes played, leading defenseman in scoring and he's third on the team in +/-.

- LeftCoaster

Simply difference of opinion.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 19 @ 8:38 PM ET
Oh right sorry.

I'd hate to give him up, but the only way we get Hamonic is if we give away our stud defenceman Edler. He's been great this year, such a rock back there, but we'd have to part with him in this deal. Just kills me thinking about losing him, and what it would mean to our power play, but it's got to be done.

- Scooby_Doo


Yeah yeah.

Who did he try and hit last night, peluso? That was painful
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 19 @ 8:39 PM ET
I'm trying to think of a good comparable. Trouba?
- LeftCoaster

Hard to say because it's unclear if troubas ceiling is higher than he's shown, could be which is why I don't think the Jets would move him.

Right now trouba is close, but in 3 years, who knows. His potential is higher for sure
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