First Tulo now has a no-trade clause, so doesnt really matter.
if they want to be a threat again.. Keep Tulo, and add another pitcher
- senstroll

Baseball players have their no trades bought out all the time. But still - keep Tulo and add another pitcher.... actually, make it two and give Chavez back.

He has to be lucky to be healthy for 2/3s of a season? Bit of an exaggeration there. If he's lucky, he'll play 150. Goins at SS is a huge drop-off, and there's no depth/insurance if Goins or Devo get injured.

They have the cash for Price if they really want him. If they need to free up an extra $7mill, trade Revere and use Pompei/Saunders in left.
- 1979AD

Excluding his 1st year he averages 118 games a year. Yikes. His average the last 4 years is even worse.

What the heck is ancient aliens guy? I wasn't mad at all...I was just pointing out the fact that you are not too bright.
- domi_legend

You know the refs have a tool that lets them see whose alt is who, right?

He has to be lucky to be healthy for 2/3s of a season? Bit of an exaggeration there. If he's lucky, he'll play 150. Goins at SS is a huge drop-off, and there's no depth/insurance if Goins or Devo get injured.

They have the cash for Price if they really want him. If they need to free up an extra $7mill, trade Revere and use Pompei/Saunders in left.
- 1979AD

thank you

Baseball players have their no trades bought out all the time. But still - keep Tulo and add another pitcher.... actually, make it two and give Chavez back.
- 1979AD

Have you checked out Chavez's numbers away from his home pitchers park in Oakland the last couple years?



Expect a high 4 low 5 ERA unless the Jays know how to fix him.

If it moves money so they could sign Price...
- aminnes

pfft, drawing 3.5 Million fans at avg of $50 a ticket ......no need to remove Richardey to making money. They've already proven, if you win, we will come.

Excluding his 1st year he averages 118 games a year. Yikes. His average the last 4 years is even worse.
- daeth

Exactly, an exaggeration. You said that he needs to be lucky to play more games in a season than his average.

Does that average also not include where he missed an entire season? Excluding when he played a full season and including when he didn't might skew the numbers a little bit too.

Those are the guys that won't be back... but none really plays a big role anyways.

The Leafs aren't going to completely tear down the team... they're building a lot of the long-term contracts up, so they can support the youth.

If you bring everyone in at once, you'll just wind up with an Edmonton situation.
- Feeling Glucky?

It is what I have been saying, you bring the young players up in groups, first group should have been this year, IMO.

I just took a look on nhl.com

This year (just grabbed random names to get a bit of a range):

Lundqvist .956
Reimer .950
Luongo .944
Schneider .940
Bishop .938
Price .933
Mason .925

If .925 = Mason then it's not all that great maybe lol
- daeth

Yeah it's just as dumb as the "pts per 60" stat.

It's designed to make certain players look better than they really are.

Have you checked out Chavez's numbers away from his home pitchers park in Oakland the last couple years?



Expect a high 4 low 5 ERA unless the Jays know how to fix him.
- daeth

I think they know how.

Have you checked out Chavez's numbers away from his home pitchers park in Oakland the last couple years?



Expect a high 4 low 5 ERA unless the Jays know how to fix him.
- daeth

4 or 5 is ideal. We are potent.

It is what I have been saying, you bring the young players up in groups, first group should have been this year, IMO.
- LeafMan

I know I keep saying this, but this year isn't over yet. You will probably get your wish regarding that first group, it'll just be mid-season.

Baseball players have their no trades bought out all the time. But still - keep Tulo and add another pitcher.... actually, make it two and give Chavez back.
- 1979AD

Fans will appreciate Tulo more next season I bet. special player. you keep him and add more like you said.. dont take from one pocket to fill another

What the heck is ancient aliens guy? I wasn't mad at all...I was just pointing out the fact that you are not too bright.
- domi_legend

That's a couple of insults already today, one more and it's penalty box time.

Have you checked out Chavez's numbers away from his home pitchers park in Oakland the last couple years?



Expect a high 4 low 5 ERA unless the Jays know how to fix him.
- daeth

Honestly, I was scared to look at any Chavez numbers. I don't get this move at all unless TLC knows something everyone else in the world doesn't.

Exactly, an exaggeration. You said that he needs to be lucky to play more games in a season that his average.

Does that average also not include where he missed an entire season? Excluding when he played a full season and including when he didn't might skew the numbers a little bit too.
- 1979AD

I didn't say that lol.

I didn't include any season in which he played 0 games and I excluded his first year where he barely played any games. If anything I helped his numbers.

Excluding his 1st year he averages 118 games a year. Yikes. His average the last 4 years is even worse.
- daeth

so far one of your replacements played 62 games..if you are playing the injury thing

Tulo/Goins is far better than Goins/Travis

I know I keep saying this, but this year isn't over yet. You will probably get your wish regarding that first group, it'll just be mid-season.
- mykokes

I know but I wanted them all year in Babcock system but I will take them up in February.

It is what I have been saying, you bring the young players up in groups, first group should have been this year, IMO.
- LeafMan

disagreed- they're still working on the vets. Once those guys are reliable again, you bring up the first group. Might be this year, probably will be next year.

so far one of your replacements played 62 games..if you are playing the injury thing

Tulo/Goins is far better than Goins/Travis
- senstroll

Travis won't be ready for awhile. He shouldn't be in the conversation.

Honestly, I was scared to look at any Chavez numbers. I don't get this move at all unless TLC knows something everyone else in the world doesn't.
- 1979AD

I'm just guessing that their scouts must see something fixable in him because based on the raw numbers he's really awful.

I know but I wanted them all year in Babcock system but I will take them up in February.
- LeafMan

Seems like the Keefe system is going just as well.

so far one of your replacements played 62 games..if you are playing the injury thing

Tulo/Goins is far better than Goins/Travis
- senstroll

Travis out til at least May isn't he? Can't see Tulo being traded.

Seems like the Keefe system is going just as well.
- mykokes

Queef is using cock's system no?

Use the NHL stats package:

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...eType=2&aggregate=0&pos=G

Last year, Carey Price was best starter with .942.

.925 would make you about #14 for starters last year.
- Atomic Wedgie

Measure from 12/13 to today and sv% ...

Bernier 917%
Reimer 916%

14th and 15th amongst goalies who've started atleast 100 games during that stretch.

Pretty average.