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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 24 @ 9:04 AM ET
7 QBs have started games in the last 4 years. They are "turning the roster over" at least...
- stashu



I'm not saying they aren't. What I am scared of is them anointing Tyrod Taylor as "the guy" after this season, and giving him a big contract like the Dolphins did Tannehill. I was ecstatic when the Miami did that because it meant they would be nowhere near Super Bowl contenders for the foreseeable future.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 24 @ 9:06 AM ET
He did, but let's not make the same mistake we did with Fitz, EJ, Trent and others and think we are set at the position. We aren't. Draft one, and draft one early
- sbroads24



Taylor is also "injury prone".
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Nov 24 @ 9:06 AM ET
He did, but let's not make the same mistake we did with Fitz, EJ, Trent and others and think we are set at the position. We aren't. Draft one, and draft one early
- sbroads24



Sure but the success rate is so low on QBs. It's not like every QB drafted early is a stud, or your even in a position to draft the QB early with your pick. Unless you like "reaching" for your QB to draft a losman or Manuel. QB is the hardest position and is getting harder. Like I said in my last point there are very few elite QBs and almost all of them are old and will be out of the league soon. The NFL will be a pool of mediocrity in 5 years
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 24 @ 9:10 AM ET
Sure but the success rate is so low on QBs. It's not like every QB drafted early is a stud, or your even in a position to draft the QB early with your pick. Unless you like "reaching" for your QB to draft a losman or Manuel. QB is the hardest position and is getting harder. Like I said in my last point there are very few elite QBs and almost all of them are old and will be out of the league soon. The NFL will be a pool of mediocrity in 5 years
- Fattony1187



No, they aren't, which is why you figure that out sooner rather than later, then draft another one, until you finally land him.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Nov 24 @ 9:13 AM ET
No, they aren't, which is why you figure that out sooner rather than later, then draft another one, until you finally land him.
- buffalofan19



So draft a QB every year in the 1st rd only giving them their rookie year to prove themselves until they are replaced next year by the new rookie. Amazing strategy. I bet that GM will last long in the league.


That kind of sounds like Jacksonville. That's a good team to emulate.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 24 @ 9:13 AM ET
I'm not saying they aren't. What I am scared of is them anointing Tyrod Taylor as "the guy" after this season, and giving him a big contract like the Dolphins did Tannehill. I was ecstatic when the Miami did that because it meant they would be nowhere near Super Bowl contenders for the foreseeable future.
- buffalofan19


His contract expires in 2017, so hopefully they're going to leave it alone (average salary of under $1.2 Million for him)
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 24 @ 9:17 AM ET
So draft a QB every year in the 1st rd only giving them their rookie year to prove themselves until they are replaced next year by the new rookie. Amazing strategy. I bet that GM will last long in the league.


That kind of sounds like Jacksonville. That's a good team to emulate.

- Fattony1187



There are indicators outside the win column that can tell you if someone is going to be great. There are also indicators that show he is most likely going to merely be good, mediocre, or poor. The great personnel people are the ones that identify those quickly. If they show any of the latter, you draft another one.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 24 @ 9:18 AM ET
So draft a QB every year in the 1st rd only giving them their rookie year to prove themselves until they are replaced next year by the new rookie. Amazing strategy. I bet that GM will last long in the league.


That kind of sounds like Jacksonville. That's a good team to emulate.

- Fattony1187

Did anyone actually say to do this?

I would rather draft QB's every year until you find the right one, than attempt to build around an average one.

HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 24 @ 9:20 AM ET
His contract expires in 2017, so hopefully they're going to leave it alone (average salary of under $1.2 Million for him)
- stashu


If you're referring to Tyrod, his contract has some weird thing in it if he played a certain amount of snaps or something that the 3rd year gets voided (a friend was telling me about it last night). I'm fairly certain he surpassed that last night.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 24 @ 9:22 AM ET
If you're referring to Tyrod, his contract has some weird thing in it if he played a certain amount of snaps or something that the 3rd year gets voided (a friend was telling me about it last night). I'm fairly certain he surpassed that last night.
- HonkFortheGoose


Oh wow, that's weird. Well, he still has one more season left then rather than 2.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 24 @ 9:23 AM ET
Oh wow, that's weird. Well, he still has one more season left then rather than 2.
- stashu



It's the NFL, where contracts aren't guaranteed. He can easily hold out and get a bigger contract.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 24 @ 9:24 AM ET
Ugh, the nhl.com stats site is so bad now....
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 24 @ 9:25 AM ET
It's the NFL, where contracts aren't guaranteed. He can easily hold out and get a bigger contract.
- buffalofan19


Oh, I know, but chances are probably slim he'd get one in Buffalo (at least for any realistic money, though he is being paid horribly as even a satisfactory starter).
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 24 @ 9:25 AM ET
If you're referring to Tyrod, his contract has some weird thing in it if he played a certain amount of snaps or something that the 3rd year gets voided (a friend was telling me about it last night). I'm fairly certain he surpassed that last night.
- HonkFortheGoose

I'm afraid that if Taylor has a good end of the year, they will be talking extension before next year

QB'S usually get resigned before they go into the least year of there deal
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 24 @ 9:25 AM ET
Ugh, the nhl.com stats site is so bad now....
- stashu


The NHL site in general loads painfully slow.

Or at least, it always seems to for me.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 24 @ 9:26 AM ET
I'm afraid that if Taylor has a good end of the year, they will be talking extension before next year

QB'S usually get resigned before they go into the least year of there deal

- sbroads24


I'm fine with them signing him to an extension so long as it's reasonable. Like Buff19 said, I do not want them signing him to a Tannehill like contract.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 24 @ 9:26 AM ET
The NHL site in general loads painfully slow.

Or at least, it always seems to for me.

- HonkFortheGoose


Yeah, I just noticed that as I went to it to get to the stats pages. Hopefully it gets better in the new year when MLB takes over.
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Nov 24 @ 9:36 AM ET
The NHL site in general loads painfully slow.

Or at least, it always seems to for me.

- HonkFortheGoose


Works fast for me.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:00 AM ET
Chip Kelly...... Your future Buffalo Bills QB
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:01 AM ET
If you're referring to Tyrod, his contract has some weird thing in it if he played a certain amount of snaps or something that the 3rd year gets voided (a friend was telling me about it last night). I'm fairly certain he surpassed that last night.
- HonkFortheGoose



60% of games over year 1 and 2. Then he gets player option type deal on 3rd year. So we are still good for all of next season. I wouldnt expect anything any time soon as far as a contract with him goes. To many important pieces. Gilmore being #1. Bradham being #2
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 24 @ 10:07 AM ET
60% of games over year 1 and 2. Then he gets player option type deal on 3rd year. So we are still good for all of next season. I wouldnt expect anything any time soon as far as a contract with him goes. To many important pieces. Gilmore being #1. Bradham being #2
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


Thanks

I only knew the very vague idea of it as that's all I was told.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:08 AM ET
Chip Kelly...... Your future Buffalo Bills QB
- CoHo_to_B-Lo



You mean Chad?
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Nov 24 @ 10:33 AM ET
You mean Chad?
- buffalofan19


Chadbrochill
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:36 AM ET
You mean Chad?
- buffalofan19



Nope.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 24 @ 10:42 AM ET
the coach wants to put ej in the game
the qb, holding his shoulder, says he is fine

the coach lets tyrod go back in


who is running this team?
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