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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 24 @ 1:31 PM ET
the sabres are in no position to trade for rentals

period

- homiedclown


They would sign them long term, like they did with O'Reilly.

Thing is, they could get them for potentially less due to them both being a UFA and not having years left on good value deals.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Nov 24 @ 1:32 PM ET
Sabres lines at practice:
Moulson-O'Reilly-Gionta
Girgensons-Eichel-Reinhart
Foligno-Larsson-Ennis
Deslauriers-Legwand/Schaller-McGinn
No #9

- chilliard77



TRADE!!!!!!




lol
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Nov 24 @ 1:33 PM ET
11pts
- CoHo_to_B-Lo



Yea i've got them at 9 or 10 pts as well.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 24 @ 1:33 PM ET
In theory yea (although im not convinced byfuglien is a top pairing guy) but as you mentioned this would never happen for obvious reasons.

It's the kind of trade i bet they'd look into though. They've still got assets but the difference now is it's no longer a surplus. The next big trade has to be a home run (or close to it) to be worthwhile because it will put our farm system in the bottom 5.

Edit: Before someone brings it up yes they could go the free agency route but im not convinced the team has the pull to bring in that level of talent.

- Sabresfan-365


I get what you are saying about Byfuglien not being a top pairing D, but his production is hard to ignore, as would be his effect on the PP nor the potential at having a Ristolainen/Byfuglien pairing.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Nov 24 @ 1:35 PM ET
I get what you are saying about Byfuglien not being a top pairing D, but his production is hard to ignore, and neither would his effect on the PP nor the potential at having a Ristolainen/Byfuglien pairing.
- kingcong39



I think the potential would be disastrous. As good as he is offensively he's not that great in his own end and at this point in his career neither is Risto.

For every goal they scored that pair would give up double. He'll also be 31 in March.
Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We're all Duane, NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

Nov 24 @ 1:36 PM ET
No way we get Buff or Ladd. Only trade I can think of would be an Ennis for Enstrom straight up.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Nov 24 @ 1:37 PM ET
No way we get Buff or Ladd. Only trade I can think of would be an Ennis for Enstrom straight up.
- Sabre_Tooth



kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 24 @ 1:40 PM ET
I think the potential would be disastrous. As good as he is offensively he's not that great in his own end and at this point in his career neither is Risto.

For every goal they scored that pair would give up double. He'll also be 31 in March.

- Sabresfan-365


I think you are going overboard on the they would give up double for what they would score, but I understand your point.

I think he would improve the PP by his presence alone.

In the end, I brought it up not because it would happen but more so as an example of the kind of the trade the team would need to make to fill 2 of the 3 glaring holes in their lineup going forward.
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Nov 24 @ 1:40 PM ET
Kane day-to-day with a lower body injury.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 24 @ 1:41 PM ET
with kane and moulson, there is no room for ladd at LW


and I really like ladd

- homiedclown


You didn't read my post.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 24 @ 1:42 PM ET
Sabres lines at practice:
Moulson-O'Reilly-Gionta
Girgensons-Eichel-Reinhart
Foligno-Larsson-Ennis
Deslauriers-Legwand/Schaller-McGinn
No #9

- chilliard77


Wow, thought someone said Girgensons was on IR
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Nov 24 @ 1:43 PM ET
I think you are going overboard on the they would give up double for what they would score, but I understand your point.

I think he would improve the PP by his presence alone.

In the end, I brought it up not because it would happen but more so as an example of the kind of the trade the team would need to make to fill 2 of the 3 glaring holes in their lineup going forward.

- kingcong39


Right, but you don't have to make a big trade like that to improve what was until a few games ago a pretty good power play. Ideally you'd want to make a big move for a guy who can do well in all 3 zones (or great in one zone and decent in the others).
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 24 @ 1:43 PM ET
Sure there is, but only if you believe Ladd is a top line LW.

Kane is a 2nd line LW, to me, and Moulson is nothing more than a 3rd line LW.

- kingcong39

Ladd is a rental

we are in no position to go after rentals


period
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 24 @ 1:44 PM ET
Kane day-to-day with a lower body injury.
- chilliard77


That kind of news is like chum in the water for sbroads.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 24 @ 1:44 PM ET
You didn't read my post.
- stashu

I read(red) it

I was being a smart ass
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 24 @ 1:45 PM ET
TRADE!!!!!!




lol

- CoHo_to_B-Lo


Lower body injury. Day to day (Kane)

Bogo. maint. day
Girg , evaluated tomorrow.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 24 @ 1:45 PM ET
Wow, thought someone said Girgensons was on IR
- stashu

I like the second line a lot
50GinosIn07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bylsmania, NY
Joined: 04.05.2015

Nov 24 @ 1:46 PM ET
I just want Kopitar
rover16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.09.2012

Nov 24 @ 1:46 PM ET
gerbe out 4-6 weeks
- homiedclown



Bad chicken wings?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 24 @ 1:48 PM ET
Johnny Football out for the year, he would rather party on his bye week.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

he can do whatever he wants, players had the week off

no different then sammy taking his kid to orlando


IMO this is a non story
yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

Nov 24 @ 1:48 PM ET
the sabres are in no position to trade for rentals

period

- homiedclown

Stamp it.
I agree, we've come this far don't take a step backwards
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 24 @ 1:48 PM ET
Bad chicken wings?
- rover16

Of course.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 24 @ 1:48 PM ET
Right, but you don't have to make a big trade like that to improve what was until a few games ago a pretty good power play. Ideally you'd want to make a big move for a guy who can do well in all 3 zones (or great in one zone and decent in the others).
- Sabresfan-365


Those kinds of D men are almost like unicorms.

Outside of the draft, they are very difficult to attain.

You either have to drastically overpay, and likely when they are past their peak, hope some GM is stupid, or believe in a player that their current team thinks is not progressing as he should, similar to how Darcy got Briere.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 24 @ 1:49 PM ET
I just want Kopitar
- 50GinosIn07

eichel-kopitar-skunk
kane-ror-ennis


I am fine with that top 6

moulson-girgens-gionta/mcginn
deslaurers-larsson-foligno


kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 24 @ 1:50 PM ET
I just want Kopitar
- 50GinosIn07


It would be really interesting to see how he would produce in a system that doesn't stifle offense as much as the Kings system does.
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