Teaching them about horses?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Very neighhhhh borly

I hope he is better at golf than he is at hockey pools
- VANTEL

That's the problem with retirement, you don't get good at anything anymore.

Very neighhhhh borly
- VANTEL

Thanks, you just proved my point about retirement.

Thanks, you just proved my point about retirement.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Just wanted to join the JV discussion.

I thought he should have gone back to jr after the trial but after 20 games, I've changed my mind. I don't necessarily believe that he has shown that he is an everyday player.... yet but don't think that he's hurting the team either (as another poster said).

Of course he will make mistakes and inevitably some of those mistakes will cost the team goals and even some games. However, I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing. He is learning how to be a pro. Learning to be a pro means that he is learning what it takes to be consistent (every shift and every game) but it also means learning how good other teams' forwards, d and goalies are. As a high draft pick, he is learning that even scrubs can play the game at this level.

With respect to the confidence issue, I don't think that is a major concern. I say that b/c he hasn't had a lot of pressure placed on him. He isn't Connor McJesus and he isn't treated as such. The bouncing from the press box to the lineup is a good thing imo. Also, when he struggles, he has excellent people to go to for advice. Horvat struggled at times last year (as well as this year.) And if you want the gold standard in learning how to deal with adversity (and pressure), he has the Sedins to turn to. He can look at them and see that not only does success not have to come quickly but it also comes through extremely hard work on and off the ice. When the 35 year olds are the best conditioned and hardest workers on the team, that rubs off (at least imo).

He is not in the same situation as Brule or Turris (or several others) who were set up to be "team changers." His role is limited which limits some of the pressure/expectation.

Anyway, if he's sent down, i won't go batsh!t but would rather him stay up. This team is not expected to do much (at least from me) so I can live with the growing pains of the youngsters. What they are learning now will pay off in a few years.
- RealityChecker

Good post.
I have no problem with JVs game so far, and have been increasingly impressed with McCann.
JV does not have to score 15 goals to be a success. As long as he is not a liability, I am fine with him getting sheltered minutes and learning the pro game.

? Once the Jr season is done (or his team eliminated from playoffs say), can he then go to the Comets??
I can envision a (rose colored) scenario where the Canucks are in the playoff hunt/playoffs and WD wants a seasoned vet in the lineup.
Can JV get sent down at this point and get potential playoff experience in the AHL??

Good post.
I have no problem with JVs game so far, and have been increasingly impressed with McCann.
JV does not have to score 15 goals to be a success. As long as he is not a liability, I am fine with him getting sheltered minutes and learning the pro game.

? Once the Jr season is done (or his team eliminated from playoffs say), can he then go to the Comets??
I can envision a (rose colored) scenario where the Canucks are in the playoff hunt/playoffs and WD wants a seasoned vet in the lineup.
Can JV get sent down at this point and get potential playoff experience in the AHL??
- dbot

Only if his Junior team is no longer playing for the season.

Good post.
I have no problem with JVs game so far, and have been increasingly impressed with McCann.
JV does not have to score 15 goals to be a success. As long as he is not a liability, I am fine with him getting sheltered minutes and learning the pro game.

? Once the Jr season is done (or his team eliminated from playoffs say), can he then go to the Comets??
I can envision a (rose colored) scenario where the Canucks are in the playoff hunt/playoffs and WD wants a seasoned vet in the lineup.
Can JV get sent down at this point and get potential playoff experience in the AHL??
- dbot

I'd rather have JV up for the playoffs, Bo's game peaked in the playoffs last year.

Benning said this morning , the Sedins called JV and JM into a closed door meeting a few days ago, just the 4 of them and talked for about 10-15 minutes . You won't get that experience in JR.
- VANTEL

hope they weren't pulling a messier.

hope they weren't pulling a messier.
- hillbillydeluxe

I'm going to try that one tonight, "hey honey come over here and pull a messier"

I'm going to try that one tonight, "hey honey come over here and pull a messier"
- A_SteamingLombardi

Think of poor Connor and those booty calls.

That's exactly the type of stuff that they need. IF Jake started to get lazy and actually gained BAD weight like Burrows claimed in the video, its stuff like that which needs to be nipped in the butt early. Sedins are the perfect mentors as well.
- Codes1087

What video?

more cowbell

Bo missed the first 12-14 games last year.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Are you saying Bo doesnt have a first 20 games in the NHL?


I'm no mathamathingy but I'm pretty sure the count starts at 1.

This years rookies we getting more ice time than Bo was last season if you you use the first 20 games as a sample size.
- boonerbuck

and people still freak out when they get limited minutes.

Are you saying Bo doesnt have a first 20 games in the NHL?


I'm no mathamathingy but I'm pretty sure the count starts at 1.
- boonerbuck

No he missed the first bunch of game due to something and then did a stint in the AHL before he started. I think that is what he was referring to.

No he missed the first bunch of game due to something and then did a stint in the AHL before he started. I think that is what he was referring to.
- thundachunk

No kidding.

I'm not talking about the Canuck's first 20 games. I'm talking about Bo's first 20 games. Why is that so hard to figure out?

No kidding.

I'm not talking about the Canuck's first 20 games. I'm talking about Bo's first 20 games. Why is that so hard to figure out?


- boonerbuck

DOn't be a d!ck. Talk down to somebody else.

No kidding.

I'm not talking about the Canuck's first 20 games. I'm talking about Bo's first 20 games. Why is that so hard to figure out?


- boonerbuck

You just said "the first 20" not the first 20 of their career, very sorry I assumed the first 20 of the season.

3 minimum starts per week made Goalies very valuable which is why there are none available .... plus 18 teams.... there is only 60 ish goalies and only 30ish starters....If all you have is back ups like scoob you need like 5 goalies just to get min starts.
- SMP8719

Well yeah, 18 teams will make it difficult to put a decent lineup together of just players when roster sizes are what they are, let alone goalies.

You just said "the first 20" not the first 20 of their career, very sorry I assumed the first 20 of the season.
- A_SteamingLombardi

My last comment was because of someone else. Even though I clarified it... one more time was necessary.


I shouldn't need to clarify that Horvats ice time while on IR is not being compared. That is pretty obvious.

DOn't be a d!ck. Talk down to somebody else.
- thundachunk

Your own pushy post was out of place after it had been clarified.

My last comment was because of someone else. Even though I clarified it... one more time was necessary.


I shouldn't need to clarify that Horvats ice time while on IR is not being compared. That is pretty obvious.
- boonerbuck

I would suggest "his first 20" would be more obvious than "the first 20"

more cowbell
- Marwood

Better late than never

I would suggest "his first 20" would be more obvious than "the first 20"
- A_SteamingLombardi

The 20 game sample is their first 20 games in their rookie season. I've explained it how many times now.

Look,,, I thought you overlooked the obvious so I clarified with a tongue and cheek comment with a wink. Pretty friendly and normal on here... the only thing out of place is people took exception to it...

The 20 game sample is their first 20 games in their rookie season. I've explained it how many times now.

Look,,, I thought you overlooked the obvious so I clarified with a tongue and cheek comment with a wink. Pretty friendly and normal on here... the only thing out of place is people took exception to it...
- boonerbuck

Annnyways.
Who are we hypothetically trading for today??