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joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Nov 29 @ 12:50 PM ET
I thought Nick Cousins looked pretty comfortable out there, looks like a future flyer.

Great game by Mason, goaltending is not an issue. I f we can get 93 going who knows.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 29 @ 12:51 PM ET
isn't manning still hanging around?
- JoeRussomanno



yes, and i mentioned him. they have 6 including gost now, so i don't think they need to bring anyone up unless they want to carry a 7th.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 29 @ 12:52 PM ET
I thought Nick Cousins looked pretty comfortable out there, looks like a future flyer.

Great game by Mason, goaltending is not an issue. I f we can get 93 going who knows.

- joegreif17


goaltending is not an issue. some have called for moving neuvirth, i guess to get some help elsewhere. me? he's going nowhere.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Nov 29 @ 12:56 PM ET
goaltending is not an issue. some have called for moving neuvirth, i guess to get some help elsewhere. me? he's going nowhere.
- hammarby31


Trading Neuvirth would be insane as they both seem to bring the best out in each other. The competition is good and Mace had a lot of weird injuries last year and it is still early. I hope he is fine and they both keep getting wins.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 29 @ 12:58 PM ET
I thought Nick Cousins looked pretty comfortable out there, looks like a future flyer.

Great game by Mason, goaltending is not an issue. I f we can get 93 going who knows.

- joegreif17


I'm glad they brought up Cousins; it was just a shame that it was at Leier's expense.

Having both Cousins and Laughton on a line is an interesting look and I want to see how that plays out.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 29 @ 12:58 PM ET
I'm actually crying jesus chist

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 29 @ 12:59 PM ET
goaltending is not an issue. some have called for moving neuvirth, i guess to get some help elsewhere. me? he's going nowhere.
- hammarby31


I understand the argument for trading Neuvirth, but I don't know who you bring in to back up Mason if you do that. Jason LaBarbera? I don't think so.

And I haven't exactly gotten warm and fuzzy that Stolarz is all that ready even for NHL backup duty.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Nov 29 @ 1:18 PM ET
I'm actually crying jesus chist


- Giroux_Is_God

thanks for posting that

I didn't know that about his Dad and I'm worried for him about what might be going on with his family with his trade request

hockey players are the best, and Hamonic is right at the top
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 29 @ 1:19 PM ET
I understand the argument for trading Neuvirth, but I don't know who you bring in to back up Mason if you do that. Jason LaBarbera? I don't think so.

And I haven't exactly gotten warm and fuzzy that Stolarz is all that ready even for NHL backup duty.

- johndewar


there's no reason to move him. nothing they bring in return would equal the value he provides in goal...in my opinion. he's been stellar all year. they need to find another way to fix the broken parts...the biggest way they'll do that is with time.

stolarz has had a solid year from what i've read. you're just looking for solid progress and i think that's happening.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Nov 29 @ 1:35 PM ET
thanks for posting that

I didn't know that about his Dad and I'm worried for him about what might be going on with his family with his trade request

hockey players are the best, and Hamonic is right at the top

- Marc D


Great watch. And you have to believe he has a real reason for asking to be traded out near his home. Too standup a guy to make that request willy nilly
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 29 @ 1:49 PM ET
I'm glad they brought up Cousins; it was just a shame that it was at Leier's expense.

Having both Cousins and Laughton on a line is an interesting look and I want to see how that plays out.

- johndewar


I was always a bit dubious before, but I will say there have been some moments where I have really liked Laughton on the wing

Cousins...that kid is a center, though. He just is. Don't know how that works long-term, but that kid is a pure center
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Nov 29 @ 1:56 PM ET
I was always a bit dubious before, but I will say there have been some moments where I have really liked Laughton on the wing

Cousins...that kid is a center, though. He just is. Don't know how that works long-term, but that kid is a pure center

- AllInForFlyers

Cousins, Laughton, and Colin MacDonald are a pretty good 4th line right now.

We have an abundance of good 4th liners!

Guys like Raffl, I'm not calling him a "4th liner", but on a championship team like Chicago, that's exactly where he'd fit.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Nov 29 @ 1:58 PM ET
Great watch. And you have to believe he has a real reason for asking to be traded out near his home. Too standup a guy to make that request willy nilly
- Mononoke

I actually hope he just takes a leave of absence to be with his family and then returns to the Islanders when the situation resolves.

I like watching him play 5 games a year in our conference.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 29 @ 1:59 PM ET
Cousins, Laughton, and Colin MacDonald are a pretty good 4th line right now.

We have an abundance of good 4th liners!

Guys like Raffl, I'm not calling him a "4th liner", but on a championship team like Chicago, that's exactly where he'd fit.

- Marc D


Agreed on all points. Raffl works hard, and he will score again, but it just might be that last year was the aberration and we have to accept that 20 goals, maybe even 12-15, isn't what Raffl is
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Nov 29 @ 2:08 PM ET
I'm actually crying jesus chist


- Giroux_Is_God



what a good dude.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Nov 29 @ 2:08 PM ET
Carlo Colaiacovo has a dented trachea

https://youtu.be/XgzRwiaXEHM

jfc you can't make this stuff up
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 29 @ 2:12 PM ET
do they need to recall anyone?

medvedev-manning-gudas-gost-mdz-schenn

- hammarby31


If Schultz is out for awhile they're gonna need a 7th
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 29 @ 2:13 PM ET
Re Morin, from the last thread

Playing a few NHL games is no threat to his future development. He may make some mistakes and he may need some more AHL time, but one thing is for certain, he's not going to get pushed around. It would be nice to have a guy like Morin around, guys like him have a way of making the entire team play "bigger"

While the day of the goon is over (good riddance), huge dmen, with decent wheels and skills and a wide mean streak, will always be in demand.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 29 @ 2:16 PM ET
Re Morin, from the last thread

Playing a few NHL games is no threat to his future development. He may make some mistakes and he may need some more AHL time, but one thing is for certain, he's not going to get pushed around. It would be nice to have a guy like Morin around, guys like him have a way of making the entire team play "bigger"

While the day of the goon is over (good riddance), huge dmen, with decent wheels and skills and a wide mean streak, will always be in demand.

- BiggE


That's what I was thinking with Leier & Cousins example. Get him up, play 5-10 games, bring up Hagg, get them a taste
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 29 @ 2:23 PM ET
I'm actually crying jesus chist


- Giroux_Is_God

Gut wrenching. I hope they can trade him to Winnipeg, Edmonton or Calgary to get him close to home.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 29 @ 2:23 PM ET
Re Morin, from the last thread

Playing a few NHL games is no threat to his future development. He may make some mistakes and he may need some more AHL time, but one thing is for certain, he's not going to get pushed around. It would be nice to have a guy like Morin around, guys like him have a way of making the entire team play "bigger"

While the day of the goon is over (good riddance), huge dmen, with decent wheels and skills and a wide mean streak, will always be in demand.

- BiggE

funny i'm watching the movie goon right now
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 29 @ 2:25 PM ET
Carlo Colaiacovo has a dented trachea

https://youtu.be/XgzRwiaXEHM

jfc you can't make this stuff up

- Marc D

He could pull a muscle just getting out of bed.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 29 @ 2:27 PM ET
That's what I was thinking with Leier & Cousins example. Get him up, play 5-10 games, bring up Hagg, get them a taste
- Jsaquella

Agreed.
While I appreciate what L Schenn did yesterday, I would have rather seen Morin unload on McIlrath.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 29 @ 2:31 PM ET
He could pull a muscle just getting out of bed.
- BiggE

it's unfortunate the number of injuries he racks up
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Nov 29 @ 2:54 PM ET
I have no problem with a 1a or 1b plan in terms of the goaltending, but I do wish Mason or Nuveirth would grab the bull by the horns and try and take over as starter. Obviously with back to back over the weekend you give each a start,but it seems it has been awhile since either goalie got consecutive starts. Unless I'm forgetting something?

And to echo the sentiment of Medvedev, keep him in the lineup. Guy can make and create plays.
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