Carchidi's throwing around the cutting edge analytical stat "Combined Plus/Minus" again in his latest article. He should know readers don't care for that fancy jargon nonsense.

He was writing about the second line and saying they've been not producing lately, which while true is conveniently only half the story. No mention of them being overdue or playing well, or hopefully a harbinger of things to come. Just a mention of their combined plus minus up until this point to indirectly and misleadingly say they've been playing poorly. Maybe his fancy stats just go over my head
- Mononoke

Sam Carchidi, trendsetter

what about Hagg?
- nastyflyergirl

He looked very good in the preseason and the first few games of the regular season. He's becoming more of a defensive defenseman rather than a two-way/ second power play unit type. Since his return from injury, he's been just OK. Not bad but also not looking like someone whose forcing the issue to earn a callup.

General question:

What players taken in the NHL draft post-2003 (which is full of HHOF-caliber players) do you think would be HHOFers if they stopped playing right now? My list:

Locks:
Ovechkin
Crosby
Malkin
Toews
Kane

Unsure:
Doughty

Need more time and/or hardware:
Price
Quick
Kessel
Giroux
Benn
Subban
Stamkos
Karlsson
Tavares
Hedman

Obviously, after 2009, you'd need more time so there's really only a few years. Just a little fun thought.

Sam Carchidi, douchebag
- Jsaquella

FTFY

General question:

What players taken in the NHL draft post-2003 (which is full of HHOF-caliber players) do you think would be HHOFers if they stopped playing right now? My list:

Locks:
Ovechkin
Crosby
Malkin
Toews
Kane

Unsure:
Doughty

Need more time and/or hardware:
Price
Quick
Kessel
Giroux
Benn
Subban
Stamkos
Karlsson
Tavares
Hedman

Obviously, after 2009, you'd need more time so there's really only a few years. Just a little fun thought.
- jmatchett383

No Akeson? Rinaldo? AMac?
This is obviously not a serious list!

No Akeson? Rinaldo? AMac?
This is obviously not a serious list!

- BiggE

Akeson was never drafted. The other 2 are oversights.

So Streit, Schultz, Umberger, Gagner, and White are injured. Am I missing anyone?

So Streit, Schultz, Umberger, Gagner, and White are injured. Am I missing anyone?
- Streit2ThePoint

No. And aside from Streit, neither are the Flyers.

No. And aside from Streit, neither are the Flyers.
- jmatchett383

I miss White, at least he plays with an edge and he works hard every shift

No. And aside from Streit, neither are the Flyers.
- jmatchett383

Or, on second thought.


But either way, you are correct. Heck the way Ghost is playing, especially on the pp and with how well Medvedev has looked the last couple of games, I'm not sure that they are really missing Streit that much too.

I miss White, at least he plays with an edge and he works hard every shift
- 3flyerkids

Yeah, but he's easily replaceable. Honestly, the line looked just as good with MacDonald on the RW.

General question:

What players taken in the NHL draft post-2003 (which is full of HHOF-caliber players) do you think would be HHOFers if they stopped playing right now? My list:

Locks:
Ovechkin
Crosby
Malkin
Toews
Kane

Unsure:
Doughty

Need more time and/or hardware:
Price
Quick
Kessel
Giroux
Benn
Subban
Stamkos
Karlsson
Tavares
Hedman

Obviously, after 2009, you'd need more time so there's really only a few years. Just a little fun thought.
- jmatchett383

Kopitar, Stastny(3rd highest scoring player in Crosby draft class), Nick Backstrom, Letang, Ekman-Larsson, Seguin.

Hard to look at anyone after 2010. Only 2 guys drafted since 2011 have over 200 NHL points to date: Gabe Landeskog & Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

I miss White, at least he plays with an edge and he works hard every shift
- 3flyerkids

Ah, so he's Zac Rinaldo with a brain...aka new MacDonald.

He looked very good in the preseason and the first few games of the regular season. He's becoming more of a defensive defenseman rather than a two-way/ second power play unit type. Since his return from injury, he's been just OK. Not bad but also not looking like someone whose forcing the issue to earn a callup.
- bmeltzer

any alt updates?

Kopitar, Stastny(3rd highest scoring player in Crosby draft class), Nick Backstrom, Letang, Ekman-Larsson, Seguin.

Hard to look at anyone after 2010. Only 2 guys drafted since 2011 have over 200 NHL points to date: Gabe Landeskog & Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
- Jsaquella

I don't think those guys have done enough, although Kopitar could make a strong case.

- Stastny just seems like a supplemental player, never "the guy" on his teams.
- Nick Backstrom is a good player, but he's only ever cracked 20 goals twice, and has made a career off of setting up Ovechkin (and for a time, Semin).
- Letang hasn't been healthy enough
- OEL could make it, but he needs to do it more years. Winning a Norris (should have won last year) would help.
- Seguin: See OEL without the Norris.

So Streit, Schultz, Umberger, Gagner, and White are injured. Am I missing anyone?
- Streit2ThePoint

and some how the flyers are looking better

Yeah, but he's easily replaceable. Honestly, the line looked just as good with MacDonald on the RW.
- BiggE

They did look good, but White has looked good all year. He's played like he gives a rats ass all year , he always sticks up for his teammates. He also does a pretty good job on PK.

They did look good, but White has looked good all year. He's played like he gives a rats ass all year , he always sticks up for his teammates. He also does a pretty good job on PK.
- 3flyerkids

White is also pretty good on faceoffs

and some how the flyers are looking better
- funmaster18

Just wait a little bit!

and some how the flyers are looking better
- funmaster18

Would be even better with my boy

2 great great wins and its tumbleweeds in here

Would be even better with my boy
- Streit2ThePoint

that's true. IF they keep ghost up when he comes back.

Just wait a little bit!
- MJL

I have feeling that by the end of the year, we will feel much better about the path that this team is on

I feel like a jerk for reading all of the nice things people are saying about Luke Schenn defending Nick Schultz and thinking that it had to be good for Luke Schenn's trade value to do that.

I feel like a jerk for reading all of the nice things people are saying about Luke Schenn defending Nick Schultz and thinking that it had to be good for Luke Schenn's trade value to do that.
- johndewar