The Oilers are a prime example, although not the only one, of why I detest the thought of a full-on "clear the table" rebuild for the Canucks. I want Benning to continue to (seemingly) draft well and bring kids up in a competitive environment. Bo Horvat has more playoff experience than Hall, RNH, Eberle, Yak, etc. etc. combined….which will serve him well going forward IMO.

It's a twofold issue for the Oilers, no one (vets) wanted to go there once they went full rebuild, and management (Kevin Lowe) felt (IMO) they could re-live the "Boys on the Bus" years…which is ridiculous!

BUT NOW, they've finally been able to draft a generational player in McDavid. Previously they didn't have any veteran players to insulate those kids, now guys may want to go there to play with Connor.

They still need to draft well in rounds 2 through 7 though, another "issue" with the organization.
- LeftCoaster

Totally. Imagine Hall and Eberle playing behind the Sedins when the game starts to slide? Big difference than Horcoff and Hemsky....those dorks couldnt get it done.
It's not too late to add some of that for Draisaitl and McDavids sake, not to mention the Nurse and Klefbom.

Adding three defensive forwards, one for each line, is exactly what the Oilers need. I'm fine with Hendricks on the fourth line. And you're too smart to take what coaches say to the media as realistic assessments, or to appeal to authority like that.

Korpiskoski has 38% possession and has two 5v5 points this year. Those are sub-enforcer numbers. He has been over 46% once in his career. The Oilers are currently giving 14 minutes per game to one of the literal worst players in the NHL.

I really and truly believe the only reason someone would take Erikson over Silfverberg is that they don't actually know how good Silfverberg is. Actually, all three guys I mentioned are Selke worthy players, among the NHL's elite defensive players. They would make this team so good you have no idea. This isn't on paper, these are real life guys who don't score much but grind out victories in a way that should be obvious to anyone who watches them.

Add in a legit #1 Dman and 3 elite defensive players to a lineup that is already the most talented offensive group in hockey (at least on paper) and I think you have a legit Cup team.
- James_Tanner

You're not wrong in that it would help....but it's not the most important thing we need. Sorry Bubba.

im still trying to process the concept of trading a high first round pick for Riley Nash

That's his M.O. and the line of thinking that leads him to the conclusion that Cody Franson is a better defenseman than Brent Seabrook, among many other mysteries.
- MartiniMan

Well actually I looked into that and admitted I was wrong. I do that you know. I will change my mind about anything.

im still trying to process the concept of trading a high first round pick for Riley Nash
- Crimsoninja

im still trying to process the concept of trading a high first round pick for Riley Nash
- Crimsoninja

It would be mid round at best.

It would be mid round at best.
- James_Tanner

I think they should swing for the fences and go for a guy like Patrice Bergeron, hypothetically of course, he's the kind of player that can definitely insulate their top two centers when things go south.

If, again hypothetically, Boston said you know what we need to turn some of our older assets into younger ones, you offer them RNH and a 2016 first round pick for Bergeron.

I think they should swing for the fences and go for a guy like Patrice Bergeron, hypothetically of course, he's the kind of player that can definitely insulate their top two centers when things go south.

If, again hypothetically, Boston said you know what we need to turn some of our older assets into younger ones, you offer them RNH and a 2016 first round pick for Bergeron.
- LeftCoaster

Agree 100%. Kopitar, Bergeron, Thornton, and to a lesser extent Jagr, Iginla, or Justin Williams.

Why would you think that picture is a good way to express yourself to someone who uses words for a living? Is that your gramma or something? What is the point of this nonsense?
- James_Tanner

Well actually I looked into that and admitted I was wrong. I do that you know. I will change my mind about anything.
- James_Tanner

Then don't be so arrogant when you post your original point of topic if you know that it's probably going to change anyway.

Adding three defensive forwards, one for each line, is exactly what the Oilers need. I'm fine with Hendricks on the fourth line. And you're too smart to take what coaches say to the media as realistic assessments, or to appeal to authority like that.

Korpiskoski has 38% possession and has two 5v5 points this year. Those are sub-enforcer numbers. He has been over 46% once in his career. The Oilers are currently giving 14 minutes per game to one of the literal worst players in the NHL.

I really and truly believe the only reason someone would take Erikson over Silfverberg is that they don't actually know how good Silfverberg is. Actually, all three guys I mentioned are Selke worthy players, among the NHL's elite defensive players. They would make this team so good you have no idea. This isn't on paper, these are real life guys who don't score much but grind out victories in a way that should be obvious to anyone who watches them.

Add in a legit #1 Dman and 3 elite defensive players to a lineup that is already the most talented offensive group in hockey (at least on paper) and I think you have a legit Cup team.
- James_Tanner

Silfverberg is better defensively, younger, not a concussion away from retiring, and signed for several more years. I like him much better than Erikson.
- James_Tanner

He's also in the same division. So....not gonna happen. On the rare occasion you see a trade within the division, it's basically nothing for nothing.

Then don't be so arrogant when you post your original point of topic if you know that it's probably going to change anyway.
- bloatedmosquito

Nobody got through to Cloutier, what makes you think Tanner will look at criticism as a way to be a better blogger?

He's also in the same division. So....not gonna happen. On the rare occasion you see a trade within the division, it's basically nothing for nothing.
- dr_soiledpants

Not like the old days. Kessler to Anaheim was a fairly big trade.

Don't worry - Ryan Ellis will be the solution to your blue line.
- Mashadar

I thought it was Reinhart. Why is he in the ahl? I was laughed at for saying he wasn't nhl ready.

Hey James one of the simplest ways to increase goals and PP chances in the game is to simply have tha goalies to start in the "long change net" which is traditionally the 2nd period net. If you discount the empty net goals in the 3rd period the 2nd period has the most goals as obviously the harder it is to change the longer players shifts will be and there for more tired players make mistakes and take penalties.

Here is a good article if your interested.

http://ca.dratings.com/a-...l-goal-scoring-by-period/

I thought it was Reinhart. Why is he in the ahl? I was laughed at for saying he wasn't nhl ready.
- Isles_since_6

I laugh at trading a lottery pick for Ryan Ellis. I have nothing against Ryan Ellis, but he is not the solution to the Oilers D-corps problems. And he certainly is not worth a lottery pick, likely top 3.

I thought it was Reinhart. Why is he in the ahl? I was laughed at for saying he wasn't nhl ready.
- Isles_since_6

Only one that can't be picked up on waivers. Numbers game for now. Nurse has been too good since his call up.

He's NHL ready but in the 6-7 spot . Lots of competition among bottom pair D in Edmonton

I laugh at trading a lottery pick for Ryan Ellis. I have nothing against Ryan Ellis, but he is not the solution to the Oilers D-corps problems. And he certainly is not worth a lottery pick, likely top 3.
- Mashadar

No poop.

That's his M.O. and the line of thinking that leads him to the conclusion that Cody Franson is a better defenseman than Brent Seabrook, among many other mysteries.
- MartiniMan

Also Gardiner is better than Kieth

Adding three defensive forwards, one for each line, is exactly what the Oilers need. I'm fine with Hendricks on the fourth line. And you're too smart to take what coaches say to the media as realistic assessments, or to appeal to authority like that.

Korpiskoski has 38% possession and has two 5v5 points this year. Those are sub-enforcer numbers. He has been over 46% once in his career. The Oilers are currently giving 14 minutes per game to one of the literal worst players in the NHL.

I really and truly believe the only reason someone would take Erikson over Silfverberg is that they don't actually know how good Silfverberg is. Actually, all three guys I mentioned are Selke worthy players, among the NHL's elite defensive players. They would make this team so good you have no idea. This isn't on paper, these are real life guys who don't score much but grind out victories in a way that should be obvious to anyone who watches them.

Add in a legit #1 Dman and 3 elite defensive players to a lineup that is already the most talented offensive group in hockey (at least on paper) and I think you have a legit Cup team.
- James_Tanner

Out bottom 6 chipping in points to help out the top 6 is an issue. Not their defensive abilities.
Also, moving pouliot off of the top 6 in favour of komarov or Nash is a clear indication of a misunderstanding of the oilers issues. Benoit does so much for this squad. He creates Space, can play the cycle grind game but also has real skills to provide those kids with something other than an anchor plug.
He's been great for this organization alongside nuge/ebs or Connor/yaks. He's exactly the guy they need. and is not an issue in our top 6. A great addition to the oilers

And as far as silverfberg- another reason could be that Erikson has proven to be far better offensively. But quality defensively as well. His name has been mentioned for a selke nomination numerous times.

Just have to disagree I guess

I laugh at trading a lottery pick for Ryan Ellis. I have nothing against Ryan Ellis, but he is not the solution to the Oilers D-corps problems. And he certainly is not worth a lottery pick, likely top 3.
- Mashadar

We need a guy that can break the forecheck and move the puck quickly in the midst of physical pressure


A true two way guy.

Hamonic ain't great offensively, but we could use his skillet before Ellis's

Not like the old days. Kessler to Anaheim was a fairly big trade.
- Jeropotato

In a sense, yes, he is undoubtedly very skilled. He asked to be traded, so I'm sure he went to the team that offered the most. Also he's know to have a bad attitude, which can seriously effect the guys around him.

next year's first for Riley Nash! EDM's former first turned 25P forward.

expecting a 27YO breakout season next year or what? awful!

Hey James one of the simplest ways to increase goals and PP chances in the game is to simply have tha goalies to start in the "long change net" which is traditionally the 2nd period net. If you discount the empty net goals in the 3rd period the 2nd period has the most goals as obviously the harder it is to change the longer players shifts will be and there for more tired players make mistakes and take penalties.

Here is a good article if your interested.

http://ca.dratings.com/a-...l-goal-scoring-by-period/
- Oilers rock 99

call more damn penalties

PP point leaders 2014-15
Giroux: 37
OV: 34

PP point leaders 2005-06
Kovalchuk: 56
Jags: 52