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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 1 @ 6:54 PM ET
Interesting stuff

@NicholsOnHockey: McKenzie: I really believe that Ron Hextall tries to manage the impatience of Ed Snider against doing the right thing for building #Flyers.

@NicholsOnHockey: McKenzie: Are #Flyers open to deals? Yeah, I think they are. Are they panicked, feeling like they really need to light fire? Don't think so.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Dec 1 @ 6:56 PM ET
Interesting stuff

@NicholsOnHockey: McKenzie: I really believe that Ron Hextall tries to manage the impatience of Ed Snider against doing the right thing for building #Flyers.

@NicholsOnHockey: McKenzie: Are #Flyers open to deals? Yeah, I think they are. Are they panicked, feeling like they really need to light fire? Don't think so.

- Jsaquella


Good. Eat your soup and relax, Ed.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Dec 1 @ 6:56 PM ET
the 14 ads jumping all over my phone screen may have resulted in a false flag of a hammarby post, henjoy your ban
- -davies-

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Dec 1 @ 6:57 PM ET
Good. Eat your soup and relax, Ed.
- Mononoke


He's already in bed for the night.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Dec 1 @ 6:58 PM ET
the 14 ads jumping all over my phone screen may have resulted in a false flag of a hammarby post, henjoy your ban
- -davies-

It was fine for a while, but the last few days has turned into ad spam on this site.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Dec 1 @ 6:59 PM ET
the 14 ads jumping all over my phone screen may have resulted in a false flag of a hammarby post, henjoy your ban
- -davies-


You reported nothing
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 1 @ 7:00 PM ET
Flyers and Sixers both win tonight!!!
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Dec 1 @ 7:02 PM ET
Interesting stuff

@NicholsOnHockey: McKenzie: I really believe that Ron Hextall tries to manage the impatience of Ed Snider against doing the right thing for building #Flyers.

@NicholsOnHockey: McKenzie: Are #Flyers open to deals? Yeah, I think they are. Are they panicked, feeling like they really need to light fire? Don't think so.

- Jsaquella


Pffft, Hextall has taken the easy approach by doing nothing
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 1 @ 7:05 PM ET
Am I right to assume Gostisbehere won't always be 53. I would love to have a jersey, but not until he has his "yes, I'm here to stay and I'm an NHL player" number.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 1 @ 7:10 PM ET
Am I right to assume Gostisbehere won't always be 53. I would love to have a jersey, but not until he has his "yes, I'm here to stay and I'm an NHL player" number.
- bodiva88


I think it's a good move to wait.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 1 @ 7:18 PM ET
The forwards have just been that impressive from what I can gather.
- ob18

Works for me. Any of those top 5 would look fantastic in orange and black.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Dec 1 @ 7:19 PM ET
McDonagh/Girardi have been pretty awful up to this point.
- Tomahawk

good

(frank) em
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 1 @ 7:19 PM ET
Excited about tonight's game because while they may not win and there are still obvious weaknesses in the lineup, if you squint a little bit and hope for the best, you can see that they could turn the corner on this reset by the end of the year.

Mark Streit has played up to his contract, and I think he has played very well overall for the Flyers. But they needed to see what it would look like with him out of the lineup, and now they know: While he could certainly help them upon his return, his clear value lies in trade, and if it happened to be a trade that brought back a prospect LW who could score....

With Sam Gagner and RJ Umberger, while you never want anyone to be injured, it's fairly clear to me that those two need not play for the NHL team again. They probably will, but to me, Ryan White and Colin McDonald should be the 12/13 forwards, with Nick Cousins as the injury fill-in. I'd waive either Umberger or Gagner to the Phantoms and be done with it. McDonald and White aren't great players, but they fill that role perfectly with their salaries and style of play.

Again: There are clear weaknesses on the roster. I am not saying they are close to contention, or that they are even going to win tonight. But I can see it, now. They have at least one, probably two or three, assets to trade. They have more prospects than they did three years ago, by far. And the NHL roster, while it does need an infusion of skill on the wings, is not the worst ever. Fairly average, sometimes bad. But you can see they could be good soon, with luck

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 1 @ 7:20 PM ET
He's already in bed for the night.
- ob18

Well, he can check the score in an hour or two when he gets up to pee
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 1 @ 7:21 PM ET
Flyers and Sixers both win tonight!!!
- Nucker101

Are the Sixers allowed to win??

Hinkie will be furious.
Tomahawk
Location: Free Frosty: Mission Accomplished
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 1 @ 7:21 PM ET
Well, he can check the score in an hour or two when he gets up to pee
- BiggE




"Give me a little pee-pee. A couple of drops."

"That's what I'm talking about!"
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Dec 1 @ 7:24 PM ET
good

(frank) em

- Giroux_Is_God

You 3rd-ass dimensional, monkeyass dummy
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 1 @ 7:24 PM ET
Are the Sixers allowed to win??

Hinkie will be furious.

- BiggE


It's disgraceful. We have talked about it before, but what that franchise is right now is absolutely disgraceful
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 1 @ 7:25 PM ET
Interesting stuff

@NicholsOnHockey: McKenzie: I really believe that Ron Hextall tries to manage the impatience of Ed Snider against doing the right thing for building #Flyers.

@NicholsOnHockey: McKenzie: Are #Flyers open to deals? Yeah, I think they are. Are they panicked, feeling like they really need to light fire? Don't think so.

- Jsaquella

#LeaveASchennInOttawa
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 1 @ 7:25 PM ET
Excited about tonight's game because while they may not win and there are still obvious weaknesses in the lineup, if you squint a little bit and hope for the best, you can see that they could turn the corner on this reset by the end of the year.

Mark Streit has played up to his contract, and I think he has played very well overall for the Flyers. But they needed to see what it would look like with him out of the lineup, and now they know: While he could certainly help them upon his return, his clear value lies in trade, and if it happened to be a trade that brought back a prospect LW who could score....

With Sam Gagner and RJ Umberger, while you never want anyone to be injured, it's fairly clear to me that those two need not play for the NHL team again. They probably will, but to me, Ryan White and Colin McDonald should be the 12/13 forwards, with Nick Cousins as the injury fill-in. I'd waive either Umberger or Gagner to the Phantoms and be done with it. McDonald and White aren't great players, but they fill that role perfectly with their salaries and style of play.

Again: There are clear weaknesses on the roster. I am not saying they are close to contention, or that they are even going to win tonight. But I can see it, now. They have at least one, probably two or three, assets to trade. They have more prospects than they did three years ago, by far. And the NHL roster, while it does need an infusion of skill on the wings, is not the worst ever. Fairly average, sometimes bad. But you can see they could be good soon, with luck

- AllInForFlyers


Yup
I'd actively look to move Streit at the deadline. If Anaheim picks it up, they could be a good fit. I'd be asking for their 1st in 2016 or a 2nd in '16 and LW Nick Ritchie.

As far as Umberger and Gagner go, you can add them to VLC, AMac, Schultz and Manning on my list of guys I can't wait to be rid of.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 1 @ 7:26 PM ET


"Give me a little pee-pee. A couple of drops."

"That's what I'm talking about!"

- Tomahawk

LOL
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 1 @ 7:26 PM ET
Are the Sixers allowed to win??

Hinkie will be furious.

- BiggE

The Lakers are actually the one team they really don't want to beat(draft pick nonsense) so it would be really funny if they pulled out this win.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 1 @ 7:26 PM ET
Are the Sixers allowed to win??

Hinkie will be furious.

- BiggE


I think it's fine once every couple of months as long as they don't gain any confidence or momentum from it.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 1 @ 7:26 PM ET
#LeaveASchennInOttawa
- hereticpride


The way Todd McClellan talks, I could see them in Edmonton. Man, he just about called those boys gutless after they got shutout last night
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 1 @ 7:28 PM ET
It's disgraceful. We have talked about it before, but what that franchise is right now is absolutely disgraceful
- AllInForFlyers

I want to see them go 0-82 and get the (frank) out of town. That entire franchise can go (frank) themselves. I never thought I'd be missing Harold Katz, but at least that putz wanted to win.
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