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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 1 @ 10:55 PM ET
warriors baby!
- 2Real


wtf are you talking about?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 1 @ 10:57 PM ET
I think Murray could work if they had a QB that was a threat to actually run the ball.

That's not Sam Bradford.

- johndewar

Colin Kaepernick
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 1 @ 10:57 PM ET
wtf are you talking about?
- hammarby31

undefeated!
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 1 @ 10:59 PM ET
Pretty much. What bothers me is that both Cousins and Laughton didn't do the right thing either. Every commentator was singling out Medvedev, who did err. But as soon as he blasted it I knew he was looking for Laughton. Laughton wasn't looking for it was the problem. Then Cousins made a lazy backcheck on the puck carrier. Medvedev is one of the best exit d men on the team. Schultz fails a clear 20 times a game. If scratches were made based on failed clears, all the d men would be a (frank)ing scratching post. Meow.

- Mononoke


Thank you.

And yeah, I get it that Medvedev might've had other options on that play as Chris Therien pointed out. But just because Medvedev had other options there doesn't mean someone shouldn't have read that play and picked him up there.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Dec 1 @ 10:59 PM ET
Well, the guy that signed him is calling the plays. I don't think Murray fits in Kelly's offense. Too bad Chip couldn't see that before he massively overpaid him.

Kelly's problem is that he thinks his high tempo system is the key to winning. The key to winning is to have a good QB and top notch talent at key positions along with good depth across the board. The Eagles are 0 for 3.

- BiggE

Cant blame kelly for the QB issue, Decided Foles wasnt the answer and took a chance on Bradford, im not a fan but there is still a chance he pans out. In hind sight, drafting Bridgewater or Carr could have been a better option but they dropped to the second for a reason. Reid was fortunate to be hired with the 2nd overall pick at his disposal; he made the right choice selecting a franchise QB (even with his limitations). Kelly's biggest downfall was the success he had the first year. Without being absolutely atrocious, theyre not getting a franchise QB and the Eagles will become the Browns
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 1 @ 10:59 PM ET
Colin Kaepernick
- 2Real


Oh, I think that is a thing that could actually happen.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 1 @ 11:01 PM ET
Oh, I think that is a thing that could actually happen.
- johndewar

Yup
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 1 @ 11:01 PM ET
Really sad that I couldn't watch the flyers on my own tv because of the god damn sixers. Now I'm drunk and ate too many wings because Comcast sports net had the sixers game. I'm not saying the flyers are anything special right now but it's ridiculous that they have a winless team (can't even say that anymore) blacking out a team that resembles a pro sports team

Anyway. I expected to come in here and see talk about coots missing the net there at the end
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 1 @ 11:01 PM ET
Cant blame kelly for the QB issue, Decided Foles wasnt the answer and took a chance on Bradford, im not a fan but there is still a chance he pans out. In hind sight, drafting Bridgewater or Carr could have been a better option but they dropped to the second for a reason. Reid was fortunate to be hired with the 2nd overall pick at his disposal; he made the right choice selecting a franchise QB (even with his limitations). Kelly's biggest downfall was the success he had the first year. Without being absolutely atrocious, theyre not getting a franchise QB and the Eagles will become the Browns
- KINGKENZO


I don't blame him at all for Foles/Bradford. Foles wasn't the answer and got benched in St. Louis. Bradford won't be back and the 49ers won't keep Kaepernick. A third or fourth gets that done
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Dec 1 @ 11:02 PM ET
ted nolan?
- 2Real

Ramsay
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Dec 1 @ 11:02 PM ET
So, Laughton's line got 6 min even strength. All 3 team lows. Next lowest player on the team? Voracek. Somehow he registered a minute and a half less than PEB and VDV.

Schenn and Medvedev got blitzkrieg bopped in possession: team worsts. It felt that way tbh. Lots of zone time hemmed in. Yikes. Thought Manning actually played well. And I don't like him so...credit. Second line again best possession line. Doing it every (frank)ing game against top competition is no joke. Happy patience is paying off for them in the score sheet. God knows they've earned it.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Dec 1 @ 11:03 PM ET
Thank you.

And yeah, I get it that Medvedev might've had other options on that play as Chris Therien pointed out. But just because Medvedev had other options there doesn't mean someone shouldn't have read that play and picked him up there.

- johndewar


That's a C learning LW there. Get to the boards when your d men is behind the net on the other side being chased.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 1 @ 11:03 PM ET
Ramsay
- FlyerFan16


thanks. i could see his face. just not his name. too lazy to look it up.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Dec 1 @ 11:05 PM ET
I don't blame him at all for Foles/Bradford. Foles wasn't the answer and got benched in St. Louis. Bradford won't be back and the 49ers won't keep Kaepernick. A third or fourth gets that done
- AllInForFlyers

I dont think he can be salvaged....but there really arent any better options. So its either resign Bradford or try to rebuild CK..... .....telling you, find a Brown's fan and ask them how they do it
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Dec 1 @ 11:06 PM ET
thanks. i could see his face. just not his name. too lazy to look it up.
- hammarby31

Will never forget the Neilson-Ramsay situation
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 1 @ 11:07 PM ET
So, Laughton's line got 6 min even strength. All 3 team lows. Next lowest player on the team? Voracek. Somehow he registered a minute and a half less than PEB and VDV.

Schenn and Medvedev got blitzkrieg bopped in possession: team worsts. It felt that way tbh. Lots of zone time hemmed in. Yikes. Thought Manning actually played well. And I don't like him so...credit. Second line again best possession line. Doing it every (frank)ing game against top competition is no joke. Happy patience is paying off for them in the score sheet. God knows they've earned it.

- Mononoke


Ottawa is good at what they do, though -- sometimes you get the bull, sometimes you get the horns.

We all know where we stand with Voracek, but damn. They are winning so you have to grit your teeth, but watching Giroux try to carry Raffl and Schenn shift after shift is traumatizing
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 1 @ 11:10 PM ET
I dont think he can be salvaged....but there really arent any better options. So its either resign Bradford or try to rebuild CK..... .....telling you, find a Brown's fan and ask them how they do it
- KINGKENZO


Ha! True. It almost always can be worse
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 1 @ 11:11 PM ET
Oh, I think that is a thing that could actually happen.
- johndewar

I keep saying it he'd work best in Chip's offense
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 1 @ 11:13 PM ET
Will never forget the Neilson-Ramsay situation
- FlyerFan16


goofy for sure.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 1 @ 11:14 PM ET
I keep saying it he'd work best in Chip's offense
- 2Real

Assuming he learns how to pass
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 1 @ 11:14 PM ET
I dont think he can be salvaged....but there really arent any better options. So its either resign Bradford or try to rebuild CK..... .....telling you, find a Brown's fan and ask them how they do it
- KINGKENZO


I think Chip can rebuild CK, actually. He gives Chip way more play calling options. Teams have to care if CK runs the ball, because he does so with authority.

I'd rather have Kaepernick than whatever we are gonna run out next year, unless Bradford comes back for very minimal dollars. Which still doesn't preclude them from getting Kaep as a backup (bye bye Sanchise).
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 1 @ 11:14 PM ET
so...10-10-5. i remember they climbed back to .500 last year later...got close and then collapsed if memory serves.

they're not that far back. imagine if V and Raffl started scoring.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 1 @ 11:16 PM ET
I think Chip can rebuild CK, actually. He gives Chip way more play calling options. Teams have to care if CK runs the ball, because he does so with authority.

I'd rather have Kaepernick than whatever we are gonna run out next year, unless Bradford comes back for very minimal dollars. Which still doesn't preclude them from getting Kaep as a backup (bye bye Sanchise).

- johndewar


It's definitely worth a shot, but I'm not holding my breath. Mariota would have been perfect, better passer than Kap and also one of the fastest QB's in the league.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 1 @ 11:17 PM ET
Assuming he learns how to pass
- Nucker101

he can pass it's just the 49er owners and jim tomsula (frank)ed up the team
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 1 @ 11:18 PM ET
he can pass it's just the 49er owners and jim tomsula (frank)ed up the team
- 2Real


I've seen him make some horrible throws whenever I've watched him lately.
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