Who has said, or even implied that someone else can't do it better? You haven't made your case that I will defend this guy to the death. As with any play, I look at everything, not with an obvious bias because I don't like a player. For me, it has zero to do with who I like or don't like. It's simply about what happened.

Del Zotto is a -9. Schultz in a -6.
- MJL

You like Schultz because he "plays the hard minutes" I'd like to see someone else given a shot. MDZ had an abysmal start to the year, but has been improving (to me) steadily over the past month despite some hiccups here and there. Schultz just kinda stays average.

And here is my main gripe with Schultz: When he gets the puck and there is any type of forecheck, his main move is to blindly throw it up the weak side boards and hope it clears without an icing. No looking for the outlet, no D to D, no chip, just throw it up the boards. Schenn and Gudas aren't any better, but I think Schenn is a better defender on the rush and on in-zone play. The rest of them have the patience and quick decision making skills to consider other options.

Edit: Haven't you always preached that +/- is a team stat and not a good way to measure an individual's success. Something about context, I'm sure.

But man, if we had a guy like Babcock, we'd be so much better off. Just look at the wonders he's worked for Toronto this season.
- jmatchett383

AHL call-ups getting shut outs ftw...coach of the year!

ECHL call-ups getting shut outs ftw...coach of the year!
- Scoob

ftfy

ftfy
- jmatchett383

Coach of the decade!!!!

Coach of the decade!!!!
- Scoob

Eternal Coach of the Earth has a better sound to it.

Too far?

Also, Garrett Sparks should just retire. His career can only go downhill from here on out. Same with Mario Lemieux. He scored on his first shot on his first shift. After that, nowhere to go but down.

Eternal Coach of the Earth has a better sound to it.

Too far?
- jmatchett383

Not if the kid beats Chicago 5-4

Not if the kid beats Chicago 5-4
- Scoob

Just imagine...what if he beat them 5-4 in OT/shootout!?!?

Ghost can blow coverage and fall down trying to cover Mike Fisher just as well as Schultz can.
- jmatchett383

lmao!

I never said he was " way better" than Luke Schenn. What I said was IF we are playing Luke at the 6 Dman position and paying 3.5M, I would rather have Manning at that position and pay him 650K.
Schenn has been better this year, but I would still trade him at deadline or sooner.
- 3flyerkids

Schenn has been much, much better than Manning. And Gudas for that matter. Give me Schenn over both, even with the money difference

It's far from the only way to measure a defenseman's worth to a team, but looking at the dmen with the worst CF% this season is still interesting. Lots of familiar names in the top 25 like:

5 - Bogosian
7 - Girardi
10 - Grossmann
16 - McDonagh
21 - Colaiacovo
22 - Schultz
24 - Streit

http://stats.hockeyanalys...orsi&sort=PCT&sortdir=ASC

Some of the numbers can be explained by many of these dmen getting punishingly difficult DZ starts, but only some.

It's far from the only way to measure a defenseman's worth to a team, but looking at the dmen with the worst CF% this season is still interesting. Lots of familiar names in the top 25 like:

5 - Bogosian
7 - Girardi
10 - Grossmann
16 - McDonagh
21 - Colaiacovo
22 - Schultz
24 - Streit

http://stats.hockeyanalys...orsi&sort=PCT&sortdir=ASC

Some of the numbers can be explained by many of these dmen getting punishingly difficult DZ starts, but only some.
- Feanor

No Buff?

You like Schultz because he "plays the hard minutes" I'd like to see someone else given a shot. MDZ had an abysmal start to the year, but has been improving (to me) steadily over the past month despite some hiccups here and there. Schultz just kinda stays average.

And here is my main gripe with Schultz: When he gets the puck and there is any type of forecheck, his main move is to blindly throw it up the weak side boards and hope it clears without an icing. No looking for the outlet, no D to D, no chip, just throw it up the boards. Schenn and Gudas aren't any better, but I think Schenn is a better defender on the rush and on in-zone play. The rest of them have the patience and quick decision making skills to consider other options.

Edit: Haven't you always preached that +/- is a team stat and not a good way to measure an individual's success. Something about context, I'm sure.
- jmatchett383

+/- is a team stat. It was posted simply to show that the results when Del Zotto is on the ice defensively aren't any better than when Scultz is on the ice defensively

It's not about liking.or disliking the player.

No Buff?
- Scoob

Buff is a strong possession player.

Buff is a strong possession player.
- Nucker101

He's in the top 25 on your list.

TRADE FOR HIM NOW!!!!!1

Schenn has been much, much better than Manning. And Gudas for that matter. Give me Schenn over both, even with the money difference
- Jsaquella

MDZ-Gudas has been a much more capable pairing than MDZ-Schenn was last season. Gudas has been very good at stifling shot attempts while playing a lot of minutes on the first and second pairings, while Luke hasn't been a 20 minute a night guy since 12-13.

MDZ-Gudas has been a much more capable pairing than MDZ-Schenn was last season. Luke hasn't been a 20 minute a night guy since 12-13.
- Feanor

yes

Buff is a strong possession player.
- Nucker101

e4

e4
- PhillySportsGuy

Gudas, if Schenn

MDZ-Gudas has been a much more capable pairing than MDZ-Schenn was last season. Gudas has been very good at stifling shot attempts while playing a lot of minutes on the first and second pairings, while Luke hasn't been a 20 minute a night guy since 12-13.
- Feanor

Can't really argue, since being paired with MDZ, Gudas has looked better and has seen an uptick in his possession numbers. In a vacuum, I'd still prefer Schenn. I think a Schenn-Medevdev pair could be really solid.

Buff is a strong possession player.
- Nucker101

I'd rather package something with Morin for Seth Jones than sending whatever to Winnipeg for Buff.

I'd rather package something with Morin for Seth Jones than sending whatever to Winnipeg for Buff.
- hereticpride

What if the price as Morin, Konecny, and one of 2016 or 2017 1st?

MDZ-Gudas has been a much more capable pairing than MDZ-Schenn was last season. Gudas has been very good at stifling shot attempts while playing a lot of minutes on the first and second pairings, while Luke hasn't been a 20 minute a night guy since 12-13.
- Feanor

MDZ-Gudas compliment each other well. Gudas runs out of position to make a hit, and MDZ tries to cover for him. Everyone gets a participation award and then party.

What if the price as Morin, Konecny, and one of 2016 or 2017 1st?
- jmatchett383

That's kooky talk.

Sanheim and Konecny named to Canada's World Junior selection camp, and are locks to make the team outside of injury. Aube-Kubel missed out.

http://www.tsn.ca/canada-...tion-camp-roster-1.402465
- Feanor

I the k konecny is gonna be a star.