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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 2 @ 9:06 AM ET
It may be beneficial to bring up Alt at some point and see what he can do. From a statistical standpoint, he looks solid at Allentown. Also, a right-handed dman with size and decent mobility is intriguing.
- ravishingone


Agreed. He just got back from injury, but having a right handed shot in the top 6 moving forward would be yuuuuuge
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 2 @ 9:08 AM ET
They need to get the PP going. If that happens, they'll start moving up the goals scored table.
- Feanor

The PP has been going...
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 2 @ 9:09 AM ET
I agree only because we know what this PP is capable of....but still the biggest flaw of the team to me is ES scoring. It has been handled almost exclusively by 1 line for the last year and a half
- YuenglingJagr


To be honest, the Couturier line has arguably been the Flyers best line for quite a while now. They haven't been scoring until recently, but their possession numbers were off the charts. It was only a matter of time before pucks started going in for them.

If they can keep that up and Voracek can return to the top line, they should have a pretty strong top 6. There isn't really much they can do with the bottom 6.
SuperSchennBros
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Dec 2 @ 9:12 AM ET
To be honest, the Couturier line has arguably been the Flyers best line for quite a while now. They haven't been scoring until recently, but their possession numbers were off the charts. It was only a matter of time before pucks started going in for them.

If they can keep that up and Voracek can return to the top line, they should have a pretty strong top 6. There isn't really much they can do with the bottom 6.

- PhillySportsGuy

The Couturier line has had the most possession in the offensive zone and yes, we are finally seeing results. I'd say this drive is being led by one Wayne Simmonds.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 2 @ 9:12 AM ET
I agree only because we know what this PP is capable of....but still the biggest flaw of the team to me is ES scoring. It has been handled almost exclusively by 1 line for the last year and a half
- YuenglingJagr


Sure, but I don't see the ES scoring improving by much till more of the D prospects are on the team.

The PP is a long way off where it has been in previous seasons, so it's possible and probably likely that it will rebound this season and get up to around 20%.
Trainfellow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.23.2012

Dec 2 @ 9:14 AM ET
First of all he didn't duck down, he was in a shooting position, with the puck. Watch how Gudas was crunched down, and raises up into the hit, raises his arm with a direct elbow or forearm into the head. He had an option not to raise his elbow. He should have been penalized at the very least,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjuHUBJu6_0

- MJL



FIRST of all, considering Zibanejad is taller than Gudas, it would be pretty tough for Gudas to make head contact unless Zibanejad was in a ducking position, with the puck, which he was. At MOST this is a 2 min penalty for roughing, nothing suspenable.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 2 @ 9:14 AM ET
The PP has been going...
- SuperSchennBros


It's 27th, so it needs to go a lot further.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...16&gameType=2&aggregate=0

I loved Ghost's 4 on 3 goals but the PP needs to score more in regulation.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Dec 2 @ 9:15 AM ET
Solid goaltending. PK has been tight. Defense, for what it's worth, solid. Effort has been a 180 since the western Canada trip. Good way to start December. Hoping they can make a little run here to make things interesting .
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 2 @ 9:19 AM ET
To be honest, the Couturier line has arguably been the Flyers best line for quite a while now. They haven't been scoring until recently, but their possession numbers were off the charts. It was only a matter of time before pucks started going in for them.

If they can keep that up and Voracek can return to the top line, they should have a pretty strong top 6. There isn't really much they can do with the bottom 6.

- PhillySportsGuy


I agree it has been their best. I said 1 line, but I didnt specify that it was the same line over the year and a half. Sometimes girouxs line, sometimes coots line, a few games of the PEB line. Regardless, there is usually only one line that scores during the game
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Dec 2 @ 9:22 AM ET
To be honest, the Couturier line has arguably been the Flyers best line for quite a while now. They haven't been scoring until recently, but their possession numbers were off the charts. It was only a matter of time before pucks started going in for them.

If they can keep that up and Voracek can return to the top line, they should have a pretty strong top 6. There isn't really much they can do with the bottom 6.

- PhillySportsGuy

the couturier line is scoring, except for couturier unless the opposing goalie is pulled and even then...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 2 @ 9:22 AM ET
To be honest, the Couturier line has arguably been the Flyers best line for quite a while now. They haven't been scoring until recently, but their possession numbers were off the charts. It was only a matter of time before pucks started going in for them.

If they can keep that up and Voracek can return to the top line, they should have a pretty strong top 6. There isn't really much they can do with the bottom 6.

- PhillySportsGuy



I think there is definitely something they can do with the bottom 6. Laughton is a good player. He needs more ice time. The Couturier line is going to stay put. Put Voracek back on the top line. Depending on who is the LW on the top line, whether it's Raffl or Schenn, put the other player with Laughton. When White comes back, put him back with Bellemare and Vandevelde as the 4th line, they've played some good games.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 2 @ 9:23 AM ET
It's 27th, so it needs to go a lot further.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...16&gameType=2&aggregate=0

I loved Ghost's 4 on 3 goals but the PP needs to score more in regulation.

- Feanor

Giroux has also produced on the PP in regulation. Off the top of my head against the Islanders in regulation and a few other times. The PP isn't going to jump from 27th to 5th over night. It is going after a slow start.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 2 @ 9:25 AM ET
FIRST of all, considering Zibanejad is taller than Gudas, it would be pretty tough for Gudas to make head contact unless Zibanejad was in a ducking position, with the puck, which he was. At MOST this is a 2 min penalty for roughing, nothing suspenable.
- Trainfellow



A player is allowed to be in a shooting position, with his stick on the ice, ready to shoot the puck, or in the act of shooting, which will naturally lower his body. Just because a player is in that position, which he was well before Gudas hit him, does not make it okay to hit the player in the head. Gudas rises up into the hit, and extends his elbow/forearm right into his head. The replay is clear. If the NHL is serious about player discipline for hits to the head, Gudas should be suspended.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 2 @ 9:26 AM ET
the couturier line is scoring, except for couturier unless the opposing goalie is pulled and even then...
- JoeRussomanno



Couturier had 2 primary assists last night.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Dec 2 @ 9:30 AM ET
Couturier had 2 primary assists last night.
- MJL

thank god simmonds is on that line! Matt hit the goalie logo Read and putting too many in the net either these days
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 2 @ 9:32 AM ET
Rome wasnt built in a day, man
- YuenglingJagr


Well no, it probably took decades. Where you going with this?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Dec 2 @ 9:33 AM ET
thank god simmonds is on that line! Matt hit the goalie logo Read and putting too many in the net either these days
- JoeRussomanno


They won three in a row and the line is clicking, let's just be happy joe. there will be plenty of time to be angry again, I'm sure. the season is young
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 2 @ 9:33 AM ET
thank god simmonds is on that line! Matt hit the goalie logo Read and putting too many in the net either these days
- JoeRussomanno



Well hey, this is hockeybuzz. We can't look at anything positively here. Flyers played a good game, both Couturier and Read has strong games, but let's look for something negative.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 2 @ 9:35 AM ET
Despite this team being worse on paper than they were last season, their more aggressive style of play has made them a harder team to play against.

The goals will come. The kids are doing great. I'm excited for the future.



opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 2 @ 9:36 AM ET
Cant argue with 3 wins in a row...Simmonds and Couturier finally producing. Ghost is lighting it up and Giroux continues to show why he is the captain and best player on this team. Mason also seems to be rounding into shape..

If we can get Voracek going it should be even more enjoyable.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 2 @ 9:38 AM ET
Cant argue with 3 wins in a row...Simmonds and Couturier finally producing. Ghost is lighting it up and Giroux continues to show why he is the captain and best player on this team. Mason also seems to be rounding into shape..

If we can get Voracek going it should be even more enjoyable.

- opeth_pa


Yup. They really do need to get Voracek back with Giroux. Playing him with Bellemare and VDV is just pointless.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Dec 2 @ 9:40 AM ET
Yup. They really do need to get Voracek back with Giroux. Playing him with Bellemare and VDV is just pointless.
- BiggE


Please!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 2 @ 9:41 AM ET
Despite this team being worse on paper than they were last season, their more aggressive style of play has made them a harder team to play against.

The goals will come. The kids are doing great. I'm excited for the future.




- Tomahawk



They have better skating dmen than they've had in awhile. Medvedev and ghost are proving to be possible better options than streit and Schultz. They are more aggressive in the neutral zone and are much quicker in puck retrievals for this team and it's getting results for this team as they are much better in the neutral zone
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 2 @ 9:41 AM ET
First of all he didn't duck down, he was in a shooting position, with the puck. Watch how Gudas was crunched down, and raises up into the hit, raises his arm with a direct elbow or forearm into the head. He had an option not to raise his elbow. He should have been penalized at the very least,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjuHUBJu6_0

- MJL


Didn't Gudas throw a similar hit on Turris later in the game?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 2 @ 9:42 AM ET
The 4th line guys all got six minutes and change last night so Cousins and McDonald should be back in the AHL soon. But maybe Laughton will also be sent down for a while when Umberger, White and Gagner are healthy so he can get some decent playing time.
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