I'd like to see them do the same with Straka and Morin. Giving each of them a few games in the NHL is not going to hurt them in any way whatsoever.
- BiggE

Morin is apparently having some struggles acclimating to the AHL. That's not surprising. He's (likely) used to being able to rely solely on his physical edge against the average 17/18/19 year old to dominate. Now, he's going up against full-grown men and he'll have to learn to still utilize his size, but to incorporate other factors into his game as well. Throwing him into the NHL after 20 games or so of AHL experience may not be wise. I think there's a better chance we see him later in the year.

Calling someone up in the event of injury and if they can contribute is perfectly reasonable.

Calling someone up for the sake of calling someone up (regardless of their play) seems like a waste of time.
- johndewar

I agree with that. Wait for a need for a call up, but then bring up a guy who will be part of your future, so long as they are playing well enough in the AHL. If a guy is a mess down there, they shouldn't call him up just to see what he can do. But if he is playing well, why not get a look when there is a spot open? Sorry to Vinnie, but you're toast and not part of the future, so I don't need to see him in the lineup when there's an injury.

Morin is apparently having some struggles acclimating to the AHL. That's not surprising. He's (likely) used to being able to rely solely on his physical edge against the average 17/18/19 year old to dominate. Now, he's going up against full-grown men and he'll have to learn to still utilize his size, but to incorporate other factors into his game as well. Throwing him into the NHL after 20 games or so of AHL experience may not be wise. I think there's a better chance we see him later in the year.
- jmatchett383

If he's struggling, then might as well wait until he finds his game. On the other hand, a change of scenery and competition for a game or two might help a guy who is struggling. I could go either way, the more I think about it.

I believe I said back in October that it would be worth calling up Ghost to replace Manning, not because Ghost would necessarily be any better defensively, but because of the offensive spark he would provide.

As it turned out Streit got hurt and Ghost came up that way.



When Streit comes back I'd like to see him play on the second pairing with Medvedev, who is a swift skater. They may have to move LSchenn to make that happen, but that should be quite possible in January.
- Feanor

If possible, I'd prefer to hold onto Schenn until at least the TDL and move Schultz, if that creates enough space. I feel that the change in return for Schultz between January and the TDL is not as significant as it would be for Schenn. But hard minutes etc.

Whether you like Crosby or not, the fact that Dubinsky only got one game for cross-checking the back on Crosby's neck and then breaking his stick over Crosby when he was on the ice sets a precedent that, unless you're Raffi Torres or Zac Rinaldo, you can do whatever you want and get, at max, 1-2 games. I see a $2500 fine coming.
- jmatchett383

I don't like crosby but if dubinsky did that to say, Couturier I'd be livid. so yea he deserved a much bigger penalty. That kinda stuff has one intention and that's injury.

If he's struggling, then might as well wait until he finds his game. On the other hand, a change of scenery and competition for a game or two might help a guy who is struggling. I could go either way, the more I think about it.
- funmaster18

If you were talking about a guy like Cousins/Straka struggling, that's one thing because they have multiple AHL seasons. We're talking about a 20-year-old playing his first handful of professional games, so I don't think it's a "change of scenery" so much as adjusting to the pro game.

If Gudas is suspended I'd love to see Ghost with MDZ. Though, I would assume Schenn gets paired with him.
- TobyFlenderson

I think it will be

MDZ-Schultz
Medvedev-Schenn
Manning-Ghost

or

MDZ-Medvedev
Schultz-Schenn
Manning-Ghost

I agree with that. Wait for a need for a call up, but then bring up a guy who will be part of your future, so long as they are playing well enough in the AHL. If a guy is a mess down there, they shouldn't call him up just to see what he can do. But if he is playing well, why not get a look when there is a spot open? Sorry to Vinnie, but you're toast and not part of the future, so I don't need to see him in the lineup when there's an injury.
- funmaster18

Exactly. Sends a terrible message if you just bring guys up with no rhyme or reason.

If he's struggling, then might as well wait until he finds his game. On the other hand, a change of scenery and competition for a game or two might help a guy who is struggling. I could go either way, the more I think about it.
- funmaster18

If he's struggling to adjust to the AHL game the NHL game will chew him up and spit him out. I'd leave him where he is for a good while.

I don't like crosby but if dubinsky did that to say, Couturier I'd be livid. so yea he deserved a much bigger penalty. That kinda stuff has one intention and that's injury.
- JoeRussomanno

Were I Mario Lemieux, or more likely Jim Rutherford, I would have made an announcement along these lines:

"With respect to the NHL DPS ruling on Brandon Dubinsky's cowardly cross checks to Sidney Crosby, we are now aware of the off-ice punishment for cross-checking someone in the neck and proceeding to viciously cross-check them as they lay prone on the ice. We would expect the same punishment to be applied to all players, both victim and offender, regardless of any perceived star status. I look forward to our next game with the Columbus Blue Jackets, specifically Ryan Johansen, Ryan Murray, and Nick Foligno. The Penguins will have no further comment of the matter."

If possible, I'd prefer to hold onto Schenn until at least the TDL and move Schultz, if that creates enough space. I feel that the change in return for Schultz between January and the TDL is not as significant as it would be for Schenn. But hard minutes etc.
- jmatchett383

Schenn should be easier to trade than Schultz, but I'd be fine with moving either of them this season.

If he's struggling to adjust to the AHL game the NHL game will chew him up and spit him out. I'd leave him where he is for a good while.
- Scoob

Yeah, probably the best bet. It would be different if it's a guy who is an established AHL player that is struggling or if it's a a young player just getting a taste for the first time.

If Gudas is suspended, and Schultz isn't ready to play Friday will Morin be called up?

If Gudas is suspended, and Schultz isn't ready to play Friday will Morin be called up?
- PLindbergh31

AMac time!

Were I Mario Lemieux, or more likely Jim Rutherford, I would have made an announcement along these lines:

"With respect to the NHL DPS ruling on Brandon Dubinsky's cowardly cross checks to Sidney Crosby, we are now aware of the off-ice punishment for cross-checking someone in the neck and proceeding to viciously cross-check them as they lay prone on the ice. We would expect the same punishment to be applied to all players, both victim and offender, regardless of any perceived star status. I look forward to our next game with the Columbus Blue Jackets, specifically Ryan Johansen, Ryan Murray, and Nick Foligno. The Penguins will have no further comment of the matter."
- jmatchett383

I don't think there's an NHL player I hate more than Brandon Dubinsky.

AMac time!
- YuenglingJagr

please let this happen. it would be fantastic in here

Were I Mario Lemieux, or more likely Jim Rutherford, I would have made an announcement along these lines:

"With respect to the NHL DPS ruling on Brandon Dubinsky's cowardly cross checks to Sidney Crosby, we are now aware of the off-ice punishment for cross-checking someone in the neck and proceeding to viciously cross-check them as they lay prone on the ice. We would expect the same punishment to be applied to all players, both victim and offender, regardless of any perceived star status. I look forward to our next game with the Columbus Blue Jackets. The Penguins will have no further comment of the matter."
- jmatchett383

Edited to keep your hypothetical ass out of trouble.

I don't think there's an NHL player I hate more than Brandon Dubinsky.
- TobyFlenderson

it's so awesome he has to play for torts again

If he's struggling to adjust to the AHL game the NHL game will chew him up and spit him out. I'd leave him where he is for a good while.
- Scoob

Yeah, to have any value, he's gotta be able to play great D, and he hasn't made that transition yet. He's in that Luke Schenn situation -- even though he's physically up to the task, it's better to give him (ample) time to develop between the ears first.

I believe I said back in October that it would be worth calling up Ghost to replace Manning, not because Ghost would necessarily be any better defensively, but because of the offensive spark he would provide.

As it turned out Streit got hurt and Ghost came up that way.



When Streit comes back I'd like to see him play on the second pairing with Medvedev, who is a swift skater. They may have to move LSchenn to make that happen, but that should be quite possible in January.
- Feanor

There is a big difference in doing this for 10 games versus doing this for 82 games. I dont think there is anything wrong with how they handled it, but the games are much more fun to watch now

I think it will be

MDZ-Schultz
Medvedev-Schenn
Manning-Ghost

or

MDZ-Medvedev
Schultz-Schenn
Manning-Ghost
- Feanor

I keep forgetting Schultz may be back. I think I'd do your second set of pairings because I don't want Schultz on the right side.

If Gudas is suspended, and Schultz isn't ready to play Friday will Morin be called up?
- PLindbergh31

AMac time!
- YuenglingJagr

Repeat after me: Davis Drewiske

If Gudas is suspended, and Schultz isn't ready to play Friday will Morin be called up?
- PLindbergh31

Likely Drewiske

If Gudas is suspended, and Schultz isn't ready to play Friday will Morin be called up?
- PLindbergh31

Highly unlikely, IMHO. Probably MacDonald

Schenn should be easier to trade than Schultz, but I'd be fine with moving either of them this season.
- Feanor

Agreed, but like I said, I'd like to try to maximize Schenn's value, which would likely be at the TDL.