I think if you can get that value for Pysyk, you do it in a heartbeat. And I'm a Pysyk fan.

People are starting to over rate our 5th defensemen. He's got 1 point and is playing 16 minutes a night. He's also 23 years old, not 19 or 20
- sbroads24

Not overrating him I just don't want to leave a hole on the blue line where Mike Weber has to play...

if murray made a big splash, he needs to hit a home run, like ror trade
- homiedclown

And he could do it again. Not sure he needs to do it now.

Is it? Eberle is a good top 6 player, Pysyk is playing the role of a 5th-6th guy right now.

I think we would all agree that Risto, McCabe and Bogosian are ahead of him on the depth chart, so at worst we are moving a 3 or 4 guy for a young top 6 scorer
- sbroads24

What is harder to find, a top 6 winger or a solid 2nd pairing player? I guess that's the question.

If Ennis goes for a top 4 then sure, pull the trigger imo. Otherwise I'm happy with another good draft and going forward with the team I have now

I'd be OK bringing in a guy like Eberle, but not sure I want to give up Pysyk as great defensemen are harder to find, and he looks to be in that mold in a top 4 role throughout his career.

I dont see McCabe becoming much more than your 5d so I would be willing to move his rights along with another forward the likes of Ennis if need be.

I wouldn't like to move Pysyk or McCabe. But if it came down to it which one do you give up? Last year i say McCabe, now im not so sure, his game is really coming around.

The answer to the question above is...Bogosian.

I'd be OK bringing in a guy like Eberle, but not sure I want to give up Pysyk as great defensemen are harder to find, and he looks to be in that mold in a top 4 role throughout his career.

I dont see McCabe becoming much more than your 5d so I would be willing to move his rights along with another forward the likes of Ennis if need be.
- Up2nuthun

McCabe has been better than Pysyk

I'd be OK bringing in a guy like Eberle, but not sure I want to give up Pysyk as great defensemen are harder to find, and he looks to be in that mold in a top 4 role throughout his career.

I dont see McCabe becoming much more than your 5d so I would be willing to move his rights along with another forward the likes of Ennis if need be.
- Up2nuthun

Last year I would have agreed with this, but McCabe's game has really improved. He looks not only solid out there, but at points he looks really good.

Don't follow the sabres, but I think it would be a huge mistake to trade a possible top 4 dman for a forward. Ebs has obvious talent, but until you have a proven defencive core, you shouldn't be trading them away. Buffalo seems to be on the right track, stay the coarse.

I wouldn't like to move Pysyk or McCabe. But if it came down to it which one do you give up? Last year i say McCabe, now im not so sure, his game is really coming around.

The answer to the question above is...Bogosian.
- kingcong39

Agreed, but Edmonton wouldn't

Not overrating him I just don't want to leave a hole on the blue line where Mike Weber has to play...
- Stripes77

The cycling of our Dmen is making me dizzy. We won't ever have a team full of Risto's. Every pick will take 3-4 years to play in the NHL. What we have now could end up better than some expected . Lets see how they turn out.

Just wanted to put this here from TSN for those who were wondering what if US and Canada aren't in the same pool:


- Zschalberg

With whatever pools the International Ice Hockey Federation determines, the host may petition for one team to be moved from one pool to another, virtually guaranteeing the desired matchup.

In other words, this is a done deal.

I think if you can get that value for Pysyk, you do it in a heartbeat. And I'm a Pysyk fan.

People are starting to over rate our 5th defensemen. He's got 1 point and is playing 16 minutes a night. He's also 23 years old, not 19 or 20
- sbroads24

The problem is that Edmonton will likely want Pysyk + + for Eberle, and based on his production the past three seasons, not including this one, I don't blame them.

Buffalo can't be solely comprised of one type of player. They need at least one true scorer, and Eberle may be that.

Don't follow the sabres, but I think it would be a huge mistake to trade a possible top 4 dman for a forward. Ebs has obvious talent, but until you have a proven defencive core, you shouldn't be trading them away. Buffalo seems to be on the right track, stay the coarse.
- dr_soiledpants

I'd agree with this. We have our stars on offense, we just need some complementary players. We have a star in the making on defense, let's keep the guys we have and not make it so that we have to play Weber come 2018

Don't follow the sabres, but I think it would be a huge mistake to trade a possible top 4 dman for a forward. Ebs has obvious talent, but until you have a proven defencive core, you shouldn't be trading them away. Buffalo seems to be on the right track, stay the coarse.
- dr_soiledpants

Thank you. That's exactly what Murray should do, stay the course.

In other words, this is a done deal.
- buffalofan19

I feel like it never would have been here had it not been a done deal.

McCabe has been better than Pysyk
- sbroads24

To this point, yes. Pysyk has also been hurt.

The near term future top 4 of Buffalo is easy to determine with Risto, Bogo, McCabe, and Pysyk.

It would be ideal if one of those was a number 5 due to getting another talented D man.

Yes, they need a scoring winger. I would rather try it through the draft this year with another likely high pick or by trading that pick (not what I would do, mind you).

The problem is that Edmonton will likely want Pysyk + + for Eberle, and based on his production the past three seasons, not including this one, I don't blame them.

Buffalo can't be solely comprised of one type of player. They need at least one true scorer, and Eberle may be that.
- kingcong39

Realistically, what would it take to get him? I don't know his numbers, but Pysyk, 1st, and a Baptiste/Bailey? Even that's likely too little. I'm still hesitant to give up that 1st round pick and then a defenseman as well I just don't see it.

McCabe has been better than Pysyk
- sbroads24

I don't necessarily agree. I think they're about the same. You may get a bit more offense from McCabe, but he plays a bit more undisciplined than Pysyk.

The reason Pysyk is a name that gets tossed around so much is because he's an under the radar type of guy. People just figure they can throw him into a trade as an extra piece because they don't notice him most of the time.

He quietly plays a very solid game. He's also been given the task of having to play with Weber and at times Colaiacovo this year (though I haven't minded Carlo's game recently).

I really think he could be our version of Hjalmarsson, which is why I REALLY don't want to give him up unless the player coming back blows me away. Eberle doesn't do that for me. At all.

To this point, yes. Pysyk has also been hurt.

The near term future top 4 of Buffalo is easy to determine with Risto, Bogo, McCabe, and Pysyk.

It would be ideal if one of those was a number 5 due to getting another talented D man.

Yes, they need a scoring winger. I would rather try it through the draft this year with another likely high pick or by trading that pick (not what I would do, mind you).
- kingcong39

Potentially go after the big name free agent for that winger as well. Not sure exactly who the top guy will be (Not even considering stamkos) but if he's a top 6 guy it could be worth not giving up the assets

what school did you get your math skills?

7 mil is different then 6 mil

stamkos = 7 letters
eberle = 6 letters


eberle gets 6 mil per season
- homiedclown

Disagree

Potentially go after the big name free agent for that winger as well. Not sure exactly who the top guy will be (Not even considering stamkos) but if he's a top 6 guy it could be worth not giving up the assets
- Zschalberg

By July 1st , Sabres could be THAT landing place for some UFA'a that we never would have thought in past seasons.

To this point, yes. Pysyk has also been hurt.

The near term future top 4 of Buffalo is easy to determine with Risto, Bogo, McCabe, and Pysyk.

It would be ideal if one of those was a number 5 due to getting another talented D man.

Yes, they need a scoring winger. I would rather try it through the draft this year with another likely high pick or by trading that pick (not what I would do, mind you).
- kingcong39

I look at it this way. Of all of our top 5 guys (Im not including Weber or Coli) Pysyk really plays the least in terms of special teams. McCabe has more offensive upside, as does Bogosian, Franson, Risto.

He is a very good young player, however this team needs another goal scorer.

I'd rather not move a defensemen, but if it can get me a young top 6 player I think about it

I don't necessarily agree. I think they're about the same. You may get a bit more offense from McCabe, but he plays a bit more undisciplined than Pysyk.

The reason Pysyk is a name that gets tossed around so much is because he's an under the radar type of guy. People just figure they can throw him into a trade as an extra piece because they don't notice him most of the time.

He quietly plays a very solid game. He's also been given the task of having to play with Weber and at times Colaiacovo this year (though I haven't minded Carlo's game recently).

I really think he could be our version of Hjalmarsson, which is why I REALLY don't want to give him up unless the player coming back blows me away. Eberle doesn't do that for me. At all.
- HonkFortheGoose

I think that's the problem. He's not flashy and most of his success this year has come against weak competition. I would be against this trade right now because there's really no one in the organization that could fill that hole. It'd need to be some kind of 2 for 2 or bigger.

I look at it this way. Of all of our top 5 guys (Im not including Weber or Coli) Pysyk really plays the least in terms of special teams. McCabe has more offensive upside, as does Bogosian, Franson, Risto.

He is a very good young player, however this team needs another goal scorer.

I'd rather not move a defensemen, but if it can get me a young top 6 player I think about it
- sbroads24

This is a good post.

The only thing I might add is that Guhle looks more prepared to make the jump to the National League than any of our O prospects, so we're ready to reload on D.

I look at it this way. Of all of our top 5 guys (Im not including Weber or Coli) Pysyk really plays the least in terms of special teams. McCabe has more offensive upside, as does Bogosian, Franson, Risto.

He is a very good young player, however this team needs another goal scorer.

I'd rather not move a defensemen, but if it can get me a young top 6 player I think about it
- sbroads24

Eberle's 26 by time the season ends, and his contract expires when other key contracts will. Pysyk and McCabe are both young (23 and 22 respectively) and RFAs when their contracts expire.

Eberle's been on the decline in goal scoring since 11/12, and he's obviously too old to have a sudden spike in his production.