You said you would if the deal was lopsided for the Flyers (McDavid + 25 1sts). So, what is the breaking point where you would do it?
- jmatchett383

It never will.

I agree there would have to be more, just thinking of a good RHD who may be available.
- jmatchett383

Are there any good RFA defenseman you might be able to get. Something in the way that Buffalo got Bogosian? Maybe a player like Gudbranson? Maybe not him exactly but something like that.

I think it was Simmonds, Phi 2014 1st and Phi 2015 1st (not lotto protected). So, Ekblad for Simmonds, Sanheim, and Provorov (or possibly better).
- jmatchett383

In that case, no.

I don't think he does. Same with Read.
- J35Bacher

Clauses
Modified NTC

http://www.generalfanager.com/players/1553

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- BulliesPhan87

Let's add some clarity here, I like Simmonds and I think he's a good player, but you aren't getting a quality, young, top 4 RH defenseman for him in a trade

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Please discuss
- BulliesPhan87

I think they might be able to get even more. Simmonds has a very friendly contract. He's younger than Coburn at the time of the deal, and isn't coming off a series of injuries.
- Jsaquella

Yeah, I guess thats true. It should be interesting. I'd really love to hear what the offers for him are.

Let's add some clarity here, I like Simmonds and I think he's a good player, but you aren't getting a quality, young, top 4 RH defenseman for him in a trade
- MJL

I disagree.

Yeah, I guess thats true. It should be interesting. I'd really love to hear what the offers for him are.
- PhillySportsGuy

Simmonds for Tanev or Horvat

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- BulliesPhan87

Call up one of the village idiots, not Yzerman.
- Nucker101

Benning on line one, sir

It never will.
- SuperSchennBros

That's poor GMing

Yeah, I guess thats true. It should be interesting. I'd really love to hear what the offers for him are.
- PhillySportsGuy

Oh yeah. As I said a few times, I wouldn't be shopping him or actively be trying to trade him. I'd listen to offers, and if a good enough one came along, I'd do it.

Nate Beaulieu & Sven Andrighetto isn't enough. Even if they took Vinny, I'd be reluctant to do that.

That's poor GMing
- Scoob

Understatement

Simmonds for Tanev and Horvat
- Nucker101

Let's add some clarity here, I like Simmonds and I think he's a good player, but you aren't getting a quality, young, top 4 RH defenseman for him in a trade
- MJL

I don't know, we were able to pry Luke Schenn out of Toronto for JvR.

@davegisaac: Jake Voracek will go back on the top line with Michael Raffl and Claude Giroux.

I don't know, we were able to pry Luke Schenn out of Toronto for JvR.
- jmatchett383

JVR was the 2nd overall pick, and rated far higher as a player than Simmonds.

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They needed the body, and hopefully he can play well enough to either make his deal palatable or build trade value. Unless they trade Streit when he comes off LTIR, MacDonald might not be up all that long.
- Jsaquella

No doubt, they needed to rip off the bandaid on this one. They can't stash a $5m player in Lehigh for another four years. They need to find him a home either in Philadelphia or on another NHL squad.

I'm excited to see how things shake out over the rest of the season.

@davegisaac: Jake Voracek will go back on the top line with Michael Raffl and Claude Giroux.
- Jsaquella

Woah...what a ballsy move.

@davegisaac: Jake Voracek will go back on the top line with Michael Raffl and Claude Giroux.
- Jsaquella

I don't know, I think they should give the Voracek, Bellemare, Vandevelde line a few more games. So close to breaking out.

JVR was the 2nd overall pick, and rated far higher as a player than Simmonds.
- MJL

I think (hope) he was being sarcastic