Agreed. The point was, there is a return out there for which you move Simmonds. What that return is and who's willing to pay it are unknown.

Who pays for McDavid's transportation to Philly?
- Scoob

Mike Richards smuggles him.

Agreed. The point was, there is a return out there for which you move Simmonds. What that return is and who's willing to pay it are unknown.
- jmatchett383

Of course if someone agrees to take my dollar for his rinked hundred, you do it.

Mike Richards smuggles him.
- jmatchett383

The deal is off. He's not good at that.

As was the Carter and Richards trades but we have missed a pure shooter like Carter ever since. Hartnell haunted us Saturday. Simmonds will too. The contract is too good to give up.
- SuperSchennBros

No, it's not. Subsequently failing to add a pure shooter after the Carter deal doesn't mean you pass up a good enough deal. Hartnell had a good game and was a bad trade, in terms of on ice value. Neither means you say no if somebody is offering a good enough deal for Simmonds.

Nobody is saying to trade Simmonds for the sake of it. They're saying he's a guy you can likely get a rival GM to overpay for

Of course if someone agrees to take my dollar for his rinked hundred, you do it.
- SuperSchennBros

Exactly. You could have a Simmonds trade turn out like the Recchi trade, although most people thought it was a massive mistake at the time. If that return is out there than is too good to pass up, you do it. If you're lukewarm about it, you don't.

Agreed. The point was, there is a return out there for which you move Simmonds. What that return is and who's willing to pay it are unknown.
- jmatchett383

That's the case for anyone, Giroux included. If another team offered me a very good prospect who was close to being NHL ready, plus a defenseman who is 23 and already playing a top four role for Simmonds, I'd definitely give a good listen.

No, it's not. Subsequently failing to add a pure shooter after the Carter deal doesn't mean you pass up a good enough deal. Hartnell had a good game and was a bad trade, in terms of on ice value. Neither means you say no if somebody is offering a good enough deal for Simmonds.

Nobody is saying to trade Simmonds for the sake of it. They're saying he's a guy you can likely get a rival GM to overpay for
- Jsaquella

Looking around the league and our cap situation, not much makes sense or is realistic. You trade Simmonds, we have a big hole.

Simmonds contract is not too good to give up in the right deal, but his contract has to be considered as part of the value given up in a trade of Simmonds. What also has to be considered, is the Flyers can't afford to miss, in a trade of an important established player such as Simmonds, for unproven prospects.

That's the case for anyone, Giroux included. If another team offered me a very good prospect who was close to being NHL ready, plus a defenseman who is 23 and already playing a top four role for Simmonds, I'd definitely give a good listen.
- Jsaquella

I wouldn't. We only have one legitimate Power Forward who is a voice in the locker room, where we lack. We have 4 highly regarded prospects on defense.

Simmonds contract is not too good to give up in the right deal, but his contract has to be considered as part of the value given up in a trade of Simmonds. What also has to be considered, is the Flyers can't afford to miss, in a trade of an important established players such as Simmonds, for unproven prospects.
- MJL

Absolutely. You'd either need a slam-dunk prospect (Ekblad/Tavares draft year type) or a proven yet young player (read: inexpensive) who fills an area of need. You can't just take a handful of okay prospects and hope that they turn out good.

I wouldn't. We only have one legitimate Power Forward who is a voice in the locker room, where we lack. We have 4 highly regarded prospects on defense.
- SuperSchennBros

If Winnipeg called and offered Ehlers and Trouba, I'd...well, drive him to Philly, not Winnipeg. But I'd do that in a heartbeat.

If Winnipeg called and offered Ehlers and Trouba, I'd...well, drive him to Philly, not Winnipeg. But I'd do that in a heartbeat.
- jmatchett383

That's you.

If Winnipeg called and offered Ehlers and Trouba, I'd...well, drive him to Philly, not Winnipeg. But I'd do that in a heartbeat.
- jmatchett383

What about Morrissey, Stafford and a first rounder?

I wouldn't. We only have one legitimate Power Forward who is a voice in the locker room, where we lack. We have 4 highly regarded prospects on defense.
- SuperSchennBros

The point of a Simmonds trade would be to help the team down the road. They'd obviously be worse without him currently

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If Winnipeg called and offered Ehlers and Trouba, I'd...well, drive him to Philly, not Winnipeg. But I'd do that in a heartbeat.
- jmatchett383

I would probably want McCarron or Scherbak if Simmonds was going to Montreal

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- BulliesPhan87

Long conditioning stint

What about Morrissey, Stafford and a first rounder?
- TobyFlenderson

I like Morrissey. I think a bigger need is forwards with Skill and Speed. I would need some forwards in deals.

The point of a Simmonds trade would be to help the team down the road. They'd obviously be worse without him currently
- PhillySportsGuy

So this type of view isn't a problem to you? We've made trades that past 5 years for a better tomorrow. Now that tomorrow is right around the corner, your okay with another set back deal?

That's the case for anyone, Giroux included. If another team offered me a very good prospect who was close to being NHL ready, plus a defenseman who is 23 and already playing a top four role for Simmonds, I'd definitely give a good listen.
- Jsaquella

That dman would have to be right handed for me to be interested. We have too many good D prospects who are left side guys in Provorov, Sanheim and Morin. Plus MDZ for at least another season.

I can't really think of anyone in that mould who would be available for Simmonds, and would work in the Flyers cap structure.

Long conditioning stint
- PhillySportsGuy

Trying to get his game legs under him so he can help Lehigh make the playoffs push?

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- BulliesPhan87

First Power Play unit time please!!

That's you.
- SuperSchennBros

Yes it is. What return would you need for Simmonds?

If Winnipeg called and offered Ehlers and Trouba, I'd...well, drive him to Philly, not Winnipeg. But I'd do that in a heartbeat.
- jmatchett383

What if I bought you a Gortex coat and some snow tires? Would you drive him all the way then?