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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 7 @ 10:22 AM ET
Philadelphia Flyers @NHLFlyers
Roster Update: The #Flyers have recalled defenseman Andrew MacDonald from the @LVPhantoms → bit.ly/1lisHHV

Please discuss

- BulliesPhan87


Absolute second pairing defenseman.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 7 @ 10:22 AM ET
The point of a Simmonds trade would be to help the team down the road. They'd obviously be worse without him currently
- PhillySportsGuy


Exactly. And, while not because of him, they're pretty bad now anyway so how much worse could it get?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 7 @ 10:22 AM ET
That dman would have to be right handed for me to be interested. We have too many good D prospects who are left side guys in Provorov, Sanheim and Morin. Plus MDZ for at least another season.

I can't really think of anyone in that mould who would be available for Simmonds, and would work in the Flyers cap structure.

- Feanor


Tyler Myers?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 7 @ 10:23 AM ET
So this type of view isn't a problem to you? We've made trades that past 5 years for a better tomorrow. Now that tomorrow is right around the corner, your okay with another set back deal?
- SuperSchennBros



What's right around the corner? I think they are about 2-3 years away from acutally being a consistently good team and making a playoff run.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 7 @ 10:23 AM ET
What about Morrissey, Stafford and a first rounder?
- TobyFlenderson


Morrissey would be our 5th best D prospect, and he's another leftie.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 7 @ 10:23 AM ET
Philadelphia Flyers @NHLFlyers
Roster Update: The #Flyers have recalled defenseman Andrew MacDonald from the @LVPhantoms → bit.ly/1lisHHV

Please discuss

- BulliesPhan87


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 7 @ 10:23 AM ET
What if I bought you a Gortex coat and some snow tires? Would you drive him all the way then?
- Scoob


You gonna pay for the day care and reimburse my PTO somehow? If so, then yeah. Especially if we can listen to nothing buy Hocus Pocus by Focus the entire way.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 7 @ 10:24 AM ET
That dman would have to be right handed for me to be interested. We have too many good D prospects who are left side guys in Provorov, Sanheim and Morin. Plus MDZ for at least another season.

I can't really think of anyone in that mould who would be available for Simmonds, and would work in the Flyers cap structure.

- Feanor


Losing Simmonds means more lack of leadership. More lack of toughness/Grit. More lack of scoring. The Power Play would be damaged.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 7 @ 10:24 AM ET
What's right around the corner? I think they are about 2-3 years away from acutally being a consistently good team and making a playoff run.
- J35Bacher


I agree
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 7 @ 10:24 AM ET
Philadelphia Flyers @NHLFlyers
Roster Update: The #Flyers have recalled defenseman Andrew MacDonald from the @LVPhantoms → bit.ly/1lisHHV

Please discuss

- BulliesPhan87



It's about time. Should've been with the team all along. May not stay long. Does that cover it?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 7 @ 10:25 AM ET
What about Morrissey, Stafford and a first rounder?
- TobyFlenderson


Nope. Not a Stafford fan, and while Morrissey is good, I don't think he's any better than Provorov/Sanheim.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 7 @ 10:25 AM ET
What's right around the corner? I think they are about 2-3 years away from acutally being a consistently good team and making a playoff run.
- J35Bacher

That's what you think.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 7 @ 10:25 AM ET
You gonna pay for the day care and reimburse my PTO somehow? If so, then yeah. Especially if we can listen to nothing buy Hocus Pocus by Focus the entire way.
- jmatchett383


ROFL!!!!!

And if that's what it takes to get that deal done, count me in.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 7 @ 10:26 AM ET
That's you.
- SuperSchennBros


That'd be anyone with sense. Ehlers has top line potential, could be a 30 goal scorer every year, and Trouba could end up being a franchise type defenseman. If you called Winnipeg and offered Simmonds for them, the only thing you'd hear is laughter and a click
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 7 @ 10:26 AM ET
It's about time. Should've been with the team all along. May not stay long. Does that cover it?
- MJL




Preemptive strike ftw
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 7 @ 10:26 AM ET
Tyler Myers?
- jmatchett383


I like Myers, but the deal would have to be bigger since his cap hit is higher than Simmonds.

LSchenn + Simmonds for Myers + something since Simmonds is worth more than Myers

Also, Winnipeg are in danger of missing the playoffs (same Points% as us) and I think it's best to trade Simmonds to a real contender. To get the best value for the Flyers, and cause Simmer deserves it.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 7 @ 10:26 AM ET
Losing Simmonds means more lack of leadership. More lack of toughness/Grit. More lack of scoring. The Power Play would be damaged.
- SuperSchennBros



Was he not out there when the power play was bad this year?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 7 @ 10:26 AM ET
Yes it is. What return would you need for Simmonds?
- jmatchett383

I wouldn't trade Simmonds. I already said this.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Dec 7 @ 10:27 AM ET
Well if we get rid of Simmonds around nowish we lose more games and get closer to Matthews
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 7 @ 10:27 AM ET
So this type of view isn't a problem to you? We've made trades that past 5 years for a better tomorrow. Now that tomorrow is right around the corner, your okay with another set back deal?
- SuperSchennBros


They aren't going to be contending this year or next year. If someone offers a 1st rounder + decent prospect, I think it would be smart to take it. Same goes with B Schenn and Streit. We always talk about how bad the defense is on this team, but the forward depth at even strength hasn't been good either.

It would be nice to be able to move guys like Raffl, Read and Schultz for a good return, but the reality is the three of them won't bring back more than Simmonds alone.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 7 @ 10:28 AM ET
Exactly. And, while not because of him, they're pretty bad now anyway so how much worse could it get?
- Scoob


Oh, it can get worse, but I don't think it really matters in the short term.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 7 @ 10:28 AM ET
What about Morrissey, Stafford and a first rounder?
- TobyFlenderson


Like Morrissey, but as other mentioned, he's probably no better than the 3rd or 4th best D prospect we'd have. Zero interest in Stafford.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Dec 7 @ 10:28 AM ET
Going back to the trade rumor of Simmonds package for Panthers #1 pick , do you make that trade now Looking back?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 7 @ 10:28 AM ET
I like Myers, but the deal would have to be bigger since his cap hit is higher than Simmonds.

LSchenn + Simmonds for Myers + something since Simmonds is worth more than Myers

Also, Winnipeg are in danger of missing the playoffs (same Points% as us) and I think it's best to trade Simmonds to a real contender. To get the best value for the Flyers, and cause Simmer deserves it.

- Feanor



Why does that matter? You make the best deal for your team and franchise. Not because you like a guy. I'd sent him to the worst team in the league if I am getting the best deal.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 7 @ 10:28 AM ET
You gonna pay for the day care and reimburse my PTO somehow? If so, then yeah. Especially if we can listen to nothing buy Hocus Pocus by Focus the entire way.
- jmatchett383


Damn you for making me look that up.
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