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CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 7 @ 2:30 PM ET
his teamate , Tomas Fleischmann had his best season at 27 years old
- homiedclown



Not possible.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 7 @ 2:30 PM ET

- MCGUIZZY


diesel
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 7 @ 2:32 PM ET
How many years did they give Moulson?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 7 @ 2:32 PM ET
How many years did they give Moulson?
- Vukota

2 many

ieetbred
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.30.2011

Dec 7 @ 2:33 PM ET
Wonder when ennis gets back if gionta will finally be pushed down the lineup.

Although our PP hasnt really been an issue this season, when he returns gionta has got to go. For god sakes gionta is shooting 4% and has 2G in 24GP. He was out there last night for the entire time the goalie was pulled. On the PP before that he was playing the half wall on his off hand while eichel was stuck playing low corner on his strong side. Baffling.

WTF does girgs have to do in order to receive a bone to chew on? I get that he isnt 300 years old but he plays like a veteran and is asked to match up against other teams top players much of the time. The dude scored 15G in 61GP last season i believe. Id like to see him get a shot on the PP too.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 7 @ 2:36 PM ET
Wonder when ennis gets back if gionta will finally be pushed down the lineup.

Although our PP hasnt really been an issue this season, when he returns gionta has got to go. For god sakes gionta is shooting 4% and has 2G in 24GP. He was out there last night for the entire time the goalie was pulled. On the PP before that he was playing the half wall on his off hand while eichel was stuck playing low corner on his strong side. Baffling.

WTF does girgs have to do in order to receive a bone to chew on? I get that he isnt 300 years old but he plays like a veteran and is asked to match up against other teams top players much of the time. The dude scored 15G in 61GP last season i believe. Id like to see him get a shot on the PP too.

- ieetbred



No one understands Disco Dans obsession with Gionta, and no one ever will. Hopefully skating 20mins a nights takes its toll sooner than later and he tells coach he can't take it anymore.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 7 @ 2:41 PM ET
No one understands Disco Dans obsession with Gionta, and no one ever will. Hopefully skating 20mins a nights takes its toll sooner than later and he tells coach he can't take it anymore.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

chief jack adams did the same thing last year with him

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 7 @ 2:41 PM ET
No one understands Disco Dans obsession with Gionta, and no one ever will. Hopefully skating 20mins a nights takes its toll sooner than later and he tells coach he can't take it anymore.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

But Bylsma likes Gionta, so that means his decisions are infallible

- Gillperreault11
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 7 @ 2:42 PM ET
2 many
- homiedclown

was it 4 or 5 years?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 7 @ 2:43 PM ET
Edmonton fan here. Coming in relative "peace". My beef is not with your blog/content but the officiating this year.

First and foremost, the refs HAVE to make that call against McCabe. That was blatant, and for whatever reason (probably because Hall is incredibly whiny to the refs) he did not get that call, and its been like that all year.

The officiating has been so bad this year against the Oilers is gone Plaid. Absolutely disgusting. Can't remember if it was Korpi or Klink got blatantly hit by Dumba in the head and was concussed and missed/missing significant time. No call no fine no nothing.

Its not every game but its most games. From good goals getting called off (even after review), to bad goals being called good (even after review). Head shots somehow missed. Trips ignored. Teams like Detriot and Montreal diving all over the place and getting away with it. Hall got his lips split wide open by a blatant highstick while carrying the puck a game or two ago and almost got a misconduct for yelling at the ref on his way to the bench bleeding profusely.

It's a mess.

The Oilers are not cheap and rarely dive. But with how weak the officiating is I am not sure why more teams are not playing that way. What real "penalty" is there in todays NHL for playing cheap and diving? Has there even been one diving call this year? I have not seen one and I watch a lot of hockey.

Not only always against the Oilers either. The Boston Edmonton game I felt bad for Boston.

There is no reason the refs should be getting it wrong this often in this day and age.

Having said all that. In regards to you thinking Hall should get a fine for that particular hit I disagree in THIS situation. I agree with the thought process. In that we should be eliminating those kind of hits. But the truth is hockey is played with emotion, in this situation Hall had a really good reason to be pissed AND most importantly you could see he eased up rather than attempted to take his head off.

Hall hit Reinhart with enough force to knock him over, not put his head through a wall. There was no intent to injure. I would even say Reinhart knew Hall was coming and embellished a tiny bit to draw a call.

He was pissed, he knew what he was doing, he did hit him in a vulnerable position, but not hard enough to ever actually injure a professional athlete, in any way shape or form.

- Aerchon


Whether or not a hit injured a guy shouldn't determine if there is a fine or anything like that. A bad hit is a bad hit no matter how you slice it. The fact that it was a retaliatory hit makes the fact that it happened even worse. Not better.

I get that you're frustrated with the officiating. Trust me, you're not the only one. Everyone thinks the ref has it out for their team. It's not exclusive to the Oilers. But a bad hit is a bad hit. Plain and simple.
Aerchon
Joined: 10.14.2011

Dec 7 @ 3:01 PM ET
I agree about the officiating but lets not act like they are out to get you guys, McDavid got away with a very VERY dirty hit early in the season, from behind, into the boards and took an extra stride and did not even get 2 for it.

- CoHo_to_B-Lo


I remember that one, yes he should have gotten at least 2.

My point is it is bad for everyone but it almost seems like they are out to get Edmonton this year. Far more questionable calls going against the Oilers than for them, this year. It's not even close.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 7 @ 3:03 PM ET
I remember that one, yes he should have gotten at least 2.

My point is it is bad for everyone but it almost seems like they are out to get Edmonton this year. Far more questionable calls going against the Oilers than for them, this year. It's not even close.

- Aerchon



We feel the same way. Look at the challenges we have lost this year... Just think its better than what the NFL is dealing with.
Aerchon
Joined: 10.14.2011

Dec 7 @ 3:05 PM ET
Whether or not a hit injured a guy shouldn't determine if there is a fine or anything like that. A bad hit is a bad hit no matter how you slice it. The fact that it was a retaliatory hit makes the fact that it happened even worse. Not better.

I get that you're frustrated with the officiating. Trust me, you're not the only one. Everyone thinks the ref has it out for their team. It's not exclusive to the Oilers. But a bad hit is a bad hit. Plain and simple.

- HonkFortheGoose


For me, if Prust get 5k fine for what he did, Hall shouldn't get one.

Intent to injure is where I make the distinction.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 7 @ 3:08 PM ET
For me, if Prust get 5k fine for what he did, Hall shouldn't get one.

Intent to injure is where I make the distinction.

- Aerchon


This is where the NHL gets it wrong. It shouldn't matter if there was intent or not. A bad hit is a bad hit. Period. Until there is technology that allows for the league to know exactly what went through a players head prior to the play, there is no real way to know what that players intent was.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Dec 7 @ 3:11 PM ET
But Bylsma likes Gionta, so that means his decisions are infallible

- Gillperreault11

- sbroads24


Oh you are going there Myers drooler I must have hurt your feeling when I said Bogo wan't one of the Sabres worst 5 players as you contend based on your incessant Myers love. aww, that devotion is cute though
Petey13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Brandon, MB
Joined: 01.16.2015

Dec 7 @ 3:12 PM ET
i dont disagree with you and i watched the game. Hall got hit HARD 3 times, twice cleanly , once should have been a boarding penalty, he was tripped twice with no calls.. I agree 100% that he was just fed up with the refs turning a blind eye ( not to mention no one on the oilers defending him - - when it comes to your best player getting knocked around, at some point the team has to stand up and push back physically)

so when the he got completly corkscrewed by O'reilly i believe it was, with no call he went in and boarded reinhart. not too hard. probably worth a 2500 at max..
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 7 @ 3:21 PM ET
Oh you are going there Myers drooler I must have hurt your feeling when I said Bogo wan't one of the Sabres worst 5 players as you contend based on your incessant Myers love. aww, that devotion is cute though
- GilPerreault11

He's not one of their 5 worst players, and I never said he was.

He is however, the Sabres highest paid defensemen, a veteran, who's off to a very slow start, which was my point.


Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 7 @ 3:26 PM ET
He's not one of their 5 worst players, and I never said he was.

He is however, the Sabres highest paid defensemen, a veteran, who's off to a very slow start, which was my point.

- sbroads24

If you factor in contract I believe he is unless someone gives me some sort of evidence to the contrary.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 7 @ 3:28 PM ET
If you factor in contract I believe he is unless someone gives me some sort of evidence to the contrary.
- Sabresfan-365

I guess. I don't think he's horrible, but he isn't a great #2 option IMO.

He should be playing Franson minutes
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 7 @ 3:36 PM ET
If you factor in contract I believe he is unless someone gives me some sort of evidence to the contrary.
- Sabresfan-365


JCSabs06
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Edge...The only people who really know where it is have gone over
Joined: 09.06.2012

Dec 7 @ 3:39 PM ET
chief jack adams did the same thing last year with him
- homiedclown


http://www.nellis.af.mil/...ographies/bio.asp?id=8575

CHIEF MASTER SERGEANT JACK L. ADAMS
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Dec 7 @ 3:41 PM ET

- DDM-Coga

The Bogo name fits perfectly Or even Mondo
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 7 @ 3:43 PM ET
The Bogo name fits perfectly Or even Mondo
- cabin


Bogo, so hot right now
yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

Dec 7 @ 3:50 PM ET
i dont disagree with you and i watched the game. Hall got hit HARD 3 times, twice cleanly , once should have been a boarding penalty, he was tripped twice with no calls.. I agree 100% that he was just fed up with the refs turning a blind eye ( not to mention no one on the oilers defending him - - when it comes to your best player getting knocked around, at some point the team has to stand up and push back physically)

so when the he got completly corkscrewed by O'reilly i believe it was, with no call he went in and boarded reinhart. not too hard. probably worth a 2500 at max..

- Petey13

I agree with both, imo the larsson hall hit was very close to interference(hall didnt have the puck but did engage).
Also I dont believe hall had an intent to injure on the reinhart hit. Wasn't charging or a cross check. Sam went down easy and i thought a 2 minute boarding was acceptable. If that was Foligno it prolly wouldnt have been a call at all.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 7 @ 4:36 PM ET
Borgen invited to team usa camp
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