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Daceroni
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.20.2006

Dec 9 @ 10:59 AM ET
The entire game, including OT. His shots were slightly late, his passes were not as crisp.
He did maintain possession well, but usually skated the back behind the goal line not to toward the crease.
He may have taken himself out of shootout selection by unloading his aggravation on a ref after the OT for entire intermission.

- missingmike

He is probably pissed off at the Coach for playing third line minutes and I don't blame him. This is just getting ridiculous now. How are you going to get him out of his funk playing on the third line. He was third in scoring last year in the entire league, he obviously has the talent, let him work through this with Giroux.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 9 @ 11:00 AM ET
Prepping for my entrance for tomorrow's game


- GudasNew


Oiled up dude wearing a speedo doing squats with fireworks sparkling away behind him.



Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 9 @ 11:00 AM ET
Konecny one of the leading scorers in the OHL this year despite having the lowest shooting percentage of any forward in the league 👀

Flyers sending 7 players to WJC this year. 2nd most behind the Coyotes who will send 8.

- PhillySportsGuy


Flyers need to call up Konecny.

/hb
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 9 @ 11:01 AM ET
I will give Hak credit for seemingly realizing that BSchenn is best on the RW.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 9 @ 11:03 AM ET
This whole place is starting to suck to high heaven because of a few trolling douche bags. Does anyone know of any rational Flyers discussion boards? Its too bad because Bill is the best there is, unfortunately there are too many bumholes in here that ruin the experience.


I am so glad I stayed out of here last night during the game. That first goal must have been the Andy MacDonald experience.

- MBFlyerfan


I think you're going to have to give up the internet to get away from trolls. And even then, they might still find you.
goenzoy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.11.2014

Dec 9 @ 11:03 AM ET
I am ok with Raffl in a role. But right now I just don't like him as Crosby would say. I just don't like him.

Raffl as a 3rd liner, pker is more a role I want to see him in. Not a guy I need to count on to play a top line roll with my offensive catalysts like Voracek and Giroux.

- J35Bacher


Totally agree but it is more a Hakstol problem not Raffls.
He wouldnt mind playing with RJ and Laughton but it is simple a fact that not Schenn,Simmonds,Gagner are able to play better the LW position
Raffl is more concerned that his a UFA after this season and how to justify a contract

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 9 @ 11:06 AM ET
I said he was more effective in his limited time.

Same to the effect that Vandevelde got his spot.

Never said he was an answer. But he could provide more right now then Vandevelde is providing.

- J35Bacher



I don't agree. Lateral move at best and takes away from the PK. Vandevelde is not the issue.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 9 @ 11:11 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Wrap: Flyers Dominate, Settle for Comeback Point in 4-3 SO Loss to Isles
- Bill_Meltzer

Last night was a game where you can't blame the team for the loss, it's just unfortunate. With this said, we have to be proactive. We have to be in on deals like when a guy like TJ Oshie is available. Good young two way player. He'd instantly add to our core and help in the shootout, where we lack. Voracek has got to be apart of the shootout. We also have to be in on deals that can get yoy a Doug Hamilton. I don't think we are in on anything regardless of certain contracts weighing us down.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 9 @ 11:11 AM ET
Bailey for Simmonds?
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 9 @ 11:14 AM ET
Totally agree but it is more a Hakstol problem not Raffls.
He wouldnt mind playing with RJ and Laughton but it is simple a fact that not Schenn,Simmonds,Gagner are able to play better the LW position
Raffl is more concerned that his a UFA after this season and how to justify a contract

- goenzoy


Isn't Raffl is getting paid only slightly more than the league minimum? I doubt he'll have a hard time justifying a new contract as he's defensively sound, can chip in some goals and is apparently well liked in the locker room. He shouldn't be on the top line, but it is what it is right now. Jake needs to get back with G. And when Gagner returns, I put him on the G's left and see what happens. Absolutely nothing to lose, and I think Gagner said he's comfortable playing either wing, right?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 9 @ 11:16 AM ET
He is probably pissed off at the Coach for playing third line minutes and I don't blame him. This is just getting ridiculous now. How are you going to get him out of his funk playing on the third line. He was third in scoring last year in the entire league, he obviously has the talent, let him work through this with Giroux.
- Daceroni



The ocassional hesitation is not about being pissed off at the coach. That started long before he was moved off of the top line. He has a confidence issue that he will eventually get out of.
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Dec 9 @ 11:16 AM ET
Bailey for Simmonds?
- Vukota




no
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 9 @ 11:18 AM ET
If we can get enough dmen healthy to have the go-to OZ faceoff pairing be Medvedev-Ghost that could really help the offense a lot.

MDZ-Gudas
Schultz-Streit or Streit-LSchenn
Medvedev-Ghost

MacDonald back to the AHL till LSchenn is traded.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Dec 9 @ 11:19 AM ET
The ocassional hesitation is not about being pissed off at the coach. That started long before he was moved off of the top line. He has a confidence issue that he will eventually get out of.
- MJL



But will he? We said this weeks ago and he hasn't at all. My only slight concern is this : last year in the offseason Jake was noted for making a diet change and losing 10-15 pounds by cutting carbs. Previously, Jake was called lazy by Columbus for his effort and training dedication. Did Jake take a step back with this? Did he continue this dieting and training this offseason? Did he ultimately settle his training after being signed to hefty contract? He doesn't seem like that kind of player, but you have to wonder solely on the fact of past comments belittling his training and effort.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 9 @ 11:21 AM ET
I don't agree. Lateral move at best and takes away from the PK. Vandevelde is not the issue.
- MJL



I didn't say it turned them into a cup contender. And it doesn't have to just be McDonald. If your going to play Bellemare with Voracek then I don't find it terrible to maybe bring up a player that can be more effective then Vandevelde.

arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Dec 9 @ 11:21 AM ET
But will he? We said this weeks ago and he hasn't at all. My only slight concern is this : last year in the offseason Jake was noted for making a diet change and losing 10-15 pounds by cutting carbs. Previously, Jake was called lazy by Columbus for his effort and training dedication. Did Jake take a step back with this? Did he continue this dieting and training this offseason? Did he ultimately settle his training after being signed to hefty contract? He doesn't seem like that kind of player, but you have to wonder solely on the fact of past comments belittling his training and effort.
- arichardson22



To add: it seemed last year it didn't matter who was on Jakes line. He made plays constantly. You'd see him carry the puck mid ice and skate through 4 oppositions with tremendous speed. I haven't seen that once this year even through 2 oppositions
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 9 @ 11:25 AM ET
Bailey for Simmonds?
- Vukota


Deal!
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 9 @ 11:26 AM ET
Isn't Raffl is getting paid only slightly more than the league minimum? I doubt he'll have a hard time justifying a new contract as he's defensively sound, can chip in some goals and is apparently well liked in the locker room. He shouldn't be on the top line, but it is what it is right now. Jake needs to get back with G. And when Gagner returns, I put him on the G's left and see what happens. Absolutely nothing to lose, and I think Gagner said he's comfortable playing either wing, right?
- wolfhounds


You're probably right about that, but I still chuckle when I see this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1RHS8_TwJc
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 9 @ 11:26 AM ET
What's going on with Voracek? He was invisible last night
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 9 @ 11:27 AM ET
Deal!
- Streit2ThePoint


That's what I'm talking about. Simmonds is exactly the forward the isles need IMO
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 9 @ 11:27 AM ET
What time is the big Vinny announcement? I'm on pins and needles waiting with anticipation.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 9 @ 11:27 AM ET
What's going on with Voracek? He was invisible last night
- Vukota


he's been invisible all season.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 9 @ 11:29 AM ET
That's what I'm talking about. Simmonds is exactly the forward the isles need IMO
- Vukota


And Bailey is exactly the bottom six forward the Flyers need to play on the top line IMO
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 9 @ 11:30 AM ET
And Bailey is exactly the bottom six forward the Flyers need to play on the top line IMO
- Streit2ThePoint

Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 9 @ 11:30 AM ET
he's been invisible all season.
- PLindbergh31


That's crazy.
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