always wonder why teams wouldnt take a shot with a 7th rd pick on a guy like that...or high risk or obscure euros
- rinaldo

I think you'll see more teams do that as time moves on. There's a very small amount of players drafted after the 3rd round that make the NHL in any capacity, so taking risks of high-reward players in the 5th-7th round would be wise.

always wonder why teams wouldnt take a shot with a 7th rd pick on a guy like that...or high risk or obscure euros
- rinaldo

They do...there are still guys that make it through the cracks though. Last years draft was very deep

Have you not figured out that he is actually Paul Holmgren?
- YuenglingJagr

anything is possible on the internet

I think you'll see more teams do that as time moves on. There's a very small amount of players drafted after the 3rd round that make the NHL in any capacity, so taking risks of high-reward players in the 5th-7th round would be wise.
- jmatchett383

if I was a GM I would always try to get the other team to include their 6/7th rd pick in most deals I make....

I think you'll see more teams do that as time moves on. There's a very small amount of players drafted after the 3rd round that make the NHL in any capacity, so taking risks of high-reward players in the 5th-7th round would be wise.
- jmatchett383

Any college FA's that might interest you this year. I would love to try and get Veasley but I think he is going to TO with his dad.

I think the Flyers could be attractive in that they could get in lineup quickly.

They do...there are still guys that make it through the cracks though. Last years draft was very deep
- YuenglingJagr

of course they do....my point is to go off the board unless a guy flat out falls who you had ranked high.....go after size, obscure guys or the like..this is where having no cap on scouting should benefit teams like the flyers.

Any college FA's that might interest you this year. I would love to try and get Veasley but I think he is going to TO with his dad.

I think the Flyers could be attractive in that they could get in lineup quickly.
- J35Bacher

I don't really follow college at all. I know the big names (Eichel, Gaudreau, Ghost types) but that's it.

- GudasNew

That dude is super excited about rolling around with bulky, oiled-up men in speedos while pretending to fight.

That dude is super excited about rolling around with bulky, oiled-up men in speedos while pretending to fight.
- jmatchett383

Pay me millions and I'd do the same thing.

Pay me millions and I'd do the same thing.
- GudasNew

That fact that this industry brings in millions/billions is amazing to me. Bring back the days of Hulk Hogan/Macho Man where they actually wrestled instead of acting out a soap opera and then wrestling for 5% of the show.

Any college FA's that might interest you this year. I would love to try and get Veasley but I think he is going to TO with his dad.

I think the Flyers could be attractive in that they could get in lineup quickly.
- J35Bacher

Troy Stecher. PMD from North Dakota. Not the biggest guy at 5'10 but right handed.

of course they do....my point is to go off the board unless a guy flat out falls who you had ranked high.....go after size, obscure guys or the like..this is where having no cap on scouting should benefit teams like the flyers.
- rinaldo

I am just a little confused as to why you and/or others thinks this doesnt happen. You think teams are looking for ECHL depth in the 7th round?

At 6'5" I am a little confused as to how Myers slipped through

Troy Stecher. PMD from North Dakota. Not the biggest guy at 5'10 but right handed.
- psuhockey

I wonder if Friedman will stay all 4 years at Bowling Green. I am excited to see him eventually as I think he will be a more aggressive Torey Krug type.

he's not really noticeable on the ice though
- 2Real

Your right. At this stage in his development I don't see the ahl helping him. Im a bit dissappointed in laughton in that I thought he coud bring more intangibles. Thought he would be more of a pest and more scrappy overrall. His defense obviously is a concern but that's a work in progress here at this level

I am just a little confused as to why you and/or others thinks this doesnt happen. You think teams are looking for ECHL depth in the 7th round?

At 6'5" I am a little confused as to how Myers slipped through
- YuenglingJagr

I don't think it happens as frequently...lets use the flyers as an example...have they really gone off the board and drafted any euros who you can stash away for a few years? a few but not many. this year they did with a goalie and I love it. scour the lower leagues and take a shot on a long shot is all.....

they do need to fill out the ahl and echl roster. so yes I do think that does become part of the thought process when picking in the 7th rd...can this kid be a pro player and help the organizational depth.

true...he was considered a prodigy in the MTHL and came into the OHL with very high expectations. The Flyers are loaded in the middle so in essence that's the onlt fit right now....3rd or 4th line...that may change here or somewhere else. He has a boat load of skill, but is still just learning the game...Pinnacio's article about this being a make or break season for the kid may have been the biggest load of "I have no idea of what i'm talking about" I have ever read. He may be better off with a more offensive role in the AHL for now....but I hope he develops up in Philly.
- landros 2

If a team has depth at a position, that doesn't identify a player. For example, you can have a legit first line center, and two legitimate 2nd line quality centers. One has to play on the so called 3rd line. My comments were not about where Laughton fits, but what his upside is. Agree on the latter comments.

Your right. At this stage in his development I don't see the ahl helping him. Im a bit dissappointed in laughton in that I thought he coud bring more intangibles. Thought he would be more of a pest and more scrappy overrall. His defense obviously is a concern but that's a work in progress here at this level
- Just5

I just want to see him used more consistently. I thought he played well when it was Read - Laughton - SImmonds. Also when it was Cousins and McDonald.

He is in a tough spot with Voracek playing on the Bellemare line. They are going to get an increase in minutes.

I would love to see Voracek back on the top line and then run with a 3rd line of Laughton - Bellemare - Raffl. They can all skate and play a good defensive game.

You act like I am trying to bring every prospect up.

I know they are trying to win.

But I also am playing one of my best offensive players with a solid role player(Bellemare) and a 4th line winger. There's no harm in getting my 1st round pick an opportunity on the wing with bellemare and voracek right now.
- J35Bacher

My comments were about what you said you need to see, so no, I don't act like you're trying to bring every prospect up. Hakstol at this point, is going to try and put a lineup together that he thinks is the best way to compete, not about what we need to see. That's the point. Right or wrong, he thinks Vandevelde is the best choice over Laughton, and Laughton is seeing 4th line ice time. Maybe that will change at some point. It's a long season

I don't think it happens as frequently...lets use the flyers as an example...have they really gone off the board and drafted any euros who you can stash away for a few years? a few but not many. this year they did with a goalie and I love it. scour the lower leagues and take a shot on a long shot is all.....

they do need to fill out the ahl and echl roster. so yes I do think that does become part of the thought process when picking in the 7th rd...can this kid be a pro player and help the organizational depth.
- rinaldo

I just dont think you can use their success, or lack thereof, as an example of them not going "off the board" with high reward players. sure they have a history of the Mathers, Goulbourne, Klotz picks, but there have been lots of examples of the picks you are asking for

Wilcox, Lindblom, Fazleez, Kase, Marody and before that you have Wellwood, Lauridsen, McGinn, Maroon

I just dont think you can use their success, or lack thereof, as an example of them not going "off the board" with high reward players. sure they have a history of the Mathers, Goulbourne, Klotz picks, but there have been lots of examples of the picks you are asking for

Wilcox, Lindblom, Fazleez, Kase, Marody and before that you have Wellwood, Lauridsen, McGinn, Maroon
- YuenglingJagr

not basing in success at all as probably 99% will fail. I am only talking about 7th rd picks though. you said lots of examples, you just talking about the flyers? who have they taken a shot with?

I just dont think you can use their success, or lack thereof, as an example of them not going "off the board" with high reward players. sure they have a history of the Mathers, Goulbourne, Klotz picks, but there have been lots of examples of the picks you are asking for

Wilcox, Lindblom, Fazleez, Kase, Marody and before that you have Wellwood, Lauridsen, McGinn, Maroon
- YuenglingJagr

The reality is that at a team should do both. They should have a blend of safer picks, and picks where they're taking a chance on a player who is highly skilled, but may have a deficiency in size or skating. Many discount that sometimes the safe player can also turn out to be more. It's crazy that picks made on a player such as Goulbourne is instantly declared a bad pick.

I just dont think you can use their success, or lack thereof, as an example of them not going "off the board" with high reward players. sure they have a history of the Mathers, Goulbourne, Klotz picks, but there have been lots of examples of the picks you are asking for

Wilcox, Lindblom, Fazleez, Kase, Marody and before that you have Wellwood, Lauridsen, McGinn, Maroon
- YuenglingJagr

Even Vasilyev and Petterson were guys who could surprise. Long shots, but the low risk, high reward types.

That said, remember the craze of Tomas Hyka? Went in the 6th round to the Kings after the Flyers tried to sign him outright, went back to Europe and is completely off of the NHL radar.

Even Vasilyev and Petterson were guys who could surprise. Long shots, but the low risk, high reward types.

That said, remember the craze of Tomas Hyka? Went in the 6th round to the Kings after the Flyers tried to sign him outright, went back to Europe and is completely off of the NHL radar.
- jmatchett383

I don't view Peterson as a high reward type at all...organizational filler imo..

I don't view Peterson as a high reward type at all...organizational filler imo..
- rinaldo

He was picked as a guy who has all of the tools that Hagg has but is undersized. They were hoping for a Tyler Jonson on defense with him. Was a long shot, but they didn't pick him with a ceiling of ECHL/4th line grinder.