BulliesPhan87
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That's true. He is playing against some 3rd and 4th lines, as well as some third defense pairings, but Voracek's mindset is to pass the puck first, he's not a sniper. I'd put him back with Giroux and leave him there the rest of the season. He will start producing. - PLindbergh31
Maybe that's part of the mindset behind this, that he's reverted to more of a pass first player than he was last year. If there's one way to force a guy to shoot, it's to put him on a line where he must do the finishing.
That said, I'm not cool with this burying Jake tactic either. |
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dragonoffrost
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He's gotta shoot it on the net to do so. He's always pass first. I wish he took Jagr's advice last season. Just shoot the puck more - arichardson22
G needs to take him aside and tell him what he told Ghost. Oh wait Jake will then take 15 shots and not hit the net once |
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BulliesPhan87
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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You know, I have never ever had this issue. I can use Firefox or IE and have never had a quoting issue (unless someone breaks the page). You guys are all full of it. - jmatchett383
I use Chrome and have never had this issue either. Maybe these guys are all using Opera or something. |
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KINGKENZO
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Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people Joined: 01.10.2008
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it's a miracle. - hammarby31
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opeth_pa
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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Hard to argue with season Giorux is having right now , in every way he is dominating.
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hammarby31
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Location: it's been 84 years, AZ Joined: 01.02.2007
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Holy crap I didn't realize the Stars were 21-5-2. That is bananas.
Some turn around. They missed the playoffs last year didn't they? - PLindbergh31
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hammarby31
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Location: it's been 84 years, AZ Joined: 01.02.2007
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You know, I have never ever had this issue. I can use Firefox or IE and have never had a quoting issue (unless someone breaks the page). You guys are all full of it. - jmatchett383
i use firefox - quoting never works on the first page. it just doesn't. |
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nastyflyergirl
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Location: this space for rent, PA Joined: 09.19.2006
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I don't see what's so crazy. Ever since the switch the flyers have been a better team. If Hak starts worrying about players personal success over the team's best interest, he won't last long in this league - Just5
what is crazy is the goal drought he is in. And while the team is playing better, really thanks to G and the 2nd line, Its still vital for the long term success to get Voracek going. |
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Maybe that's part of the mindset behind this, that he's reverted to more of a pass first player than he was last year. If there's one way to force a guy to shoot, it's to put him on a line where he must do the finishing.
That said, I'm not cool with this burying Jake tactic either. - BulliesPhan87
I think Hakstol's thinking is to try and create a more balanced lineup. But it's a flawed roster as we know, so there are going to be holes. The team is playing pretty solid hockey right now, I guess I should just enjoy it instead of worrying about Voracek's lack of production. |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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i use firefox - quoting never works on the first page. it just doesn't. - hammarby31
Maybe your Firefox has H1N1. |
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 - hammarby31
Haha! Niemi has had some success before Reese. |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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Definitely not arguing that. Most of this is on Voracek the individual. I just don't feel he's in the best position to succeed right now and he doesn't necessarily have to be put back with Giroux to do that. - TobyFlenderson
Well, I can agree with you on that. And I do think Voracek needs to be back on the top line. I just wish he would show some gumption and make Hak's decision for him. |
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TobyFlenderson
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Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA Joined: 06.13.2013
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Well, I can agree with you on that. And I do think Voracek needs to be back on the top line. I just wish he would show some gumption and make Hak's decision for him. - MBFlyerfan
Yep, I'm with you. Tonight would be a perfect night to do so. Bust out against the best team in the league in the second game of a back to back. |
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Scoob
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I use Chrome and have never had this issue either. Maybe these guys are all using Opera or something. - BulliesPhan87
I use Chrome and have had the issue for ages. |
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Scoob
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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what is crazy is the goal drought he is in. And while the team is playing better, really thanks to G and the 2nd line, Its still vital for the long term success to get Voracek going. - nastyflyergirl
Yes, and coach has the luxury this season of trying different things. They're not going to make the playoffs no matter what so if a change doesn't get him going after a few games, oh well, try something else for a few games. |
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J35Bacher
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Yes, and coach has the luxury this season of trying different things. They're not going to make the playoffs no matter what so if a change doesn't get him going after a few games, oh well, try something else for a few games. - Scoob
I thought that Laughton line played well last night. Schenn had a strong game. I think now is a great time to put Voracek with Schenn and Giroux.
Schenn - Giroux - Voracek
Read - Couturier - Simmonds
Raffl - Bellemare - Vandevelde
White - Laughton - Umberger
This way you can use the Bellemare line as a more defensive unit. |
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I thought that Laughton line played well last night. Schenn had a strong game. I think now is a great time to put Voracek with Schenn and Giroux.
Schenn - Giroux - Voracek
Read - Couturier - Simmonds
Raffl - Bellemare - Vandevelde
White - Laughton - Umberger
This way you can use the Bellemare line as a more defensive unit. - J35Bacher
I like it! |
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goenzoy
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Yes, and coach has the luxury this season of trying different things. They're not going to make the playoffs no matter what so if a change doesn't get him going after a few games, oh well, try something else for a few games. - Scoob
Playoff is still a possibility.The run for wildcards is far from over
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BulliesPhan87
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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I think Hakstol's thinking is to try and create a more balanced lineup. But it's a flawed roster as we know, so there are going to be holes. The team is playing pretty solid hockey right now, I guess I should just enjoy it instead of worrying about Voracek's lack of production. - PLindbergh31
That's where I'm at. On one hand, it's a long season, and there's plenty of time for Jake to get going. On the other hand, this has already gone on quite a while. It is what it is. |
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Location: No More Tortellini Joined: 02.04.2009
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Schenn - Giroux - Voracek - J35Bacher
He seems to be doing great at RW... opens up so many options for him... why mess with that?
Bellemare/Raffl - Giroux - Schenn
Read - Couturier - Simmonds
Raffl/Bellemare - Laughton - Voracek |
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Scoob
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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Playoff is still a possibility.The run for wildcards is far from over - goenzoy
Mathematically, absolutely.
Realistically? Not imho. |
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Scoob
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I thought that Laughton line played well last night. Schenn had a strong game. I think now is a great time to put Voracek with Schenn and Giroux.
Schenn - Giroux - Voracek
Read - Couturier - Simmonds
Raffl - Bellemare - Vandevelde
White - Laughton - Umberger
This way you can use the Bellemare line as a more defensive unit. - J35Bacher
I didn't see the game last night as I had one of my own. I think those lines are certainly worth a try. Give 'em a whirl, see what happens. |
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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He seems to be doing great at RW... opens up so many options for him... why mess with that?
Bellemare/Raffl - Giroux - Schenn
Read - Couturier - Simmonds
Raffl/Bellemare - Laughton - Voracek - Tomahawk
Because I need my 8 million dollar winger to get going.
I am ok if you want to keep Schenn on the RW. I just want to get Voracek more skilled players.
Raffl - Giroux - Schenn
Read - Couturier - Simmonds
Laughton - Bellemare - Voracek
Vandevelde - White - Umberger.
Laughton at least has some skills to play with voracek. I am so tired of seeing Vandevelde out there. I am fine if he is a 4th line grinder.
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YuenglingJagr
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I just want to get Voracek more skilled players. - J35Bacher
Can't argue with that.
Laughton and Voracek need to be a thing. |
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