When is it Simmonds turn for that message? Guy has had what 2 good games this season?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I don't know. There was a bump in his play when the trade winds were swirling

The waiver factor comes into play also. There's no question that MacDonald is the better player. He's better all around than Schenn, Gudas, Manning, and at times, depending on how he plays, Schultz. The contract is the issue.
- MJL

The waiver factor comes into play also. There's no question that MacDonald is the better player. He's better all around than Schenn, Gudas, Manning, and at times, depending on how he plays, Schultz. The contract is the issue.
- MJL

If the flyers sincerely believed that, they would have found a way to keep him on the roster. I think gudas is better, and certainly the better fit for the D. Amac is better than luke on that list

Considering that he's saddled with nothing but Giroux, Neuvirth, Ghost and an unappetizing mix of journeymen and underachievers, Roboto has done a nice job.

Except for his stubbornance with Voracek, a veteran NHL coach would know better. You can't treat 26 year old pro athletes like college kids.
- BiggE

Laughton is honestly my biggest gripe. Along with the minimal minutes to Cousins when he was up.

Voracek thing is obvious.

Kessel fault

- Landsbergfan

Hate this gif. The guy basically walks off the skateboard and looks at the camera right after the fall.

Attention seeker.

If the flyers sincerely believed that, they would have found a way to keep him on the roster. I think gudas is better, and certainly the better fit for the D. Amac is better than luke on that list
- Just5

My comment wasn't about what the Flyers believe, it was my opinion. In my opinion Gudas is not a better all around player than MacDonald is. He does however add a physical element to the lineup, that MacDonald does not, that I think the team needs.

If the flyers sincerely believed that, they would have found a way to keep him on the roster. I think gudas is better, and certainly the better fit for the D. Amac is better than luke on that list
- Just5

Gudas is clearly better... his big mistakes/penalties stick in the mind, but overall, the Flyers have been much better overall with him on the ice than Amac, Grossmann, Schultz, etc. It seems like he's got attackers worrying about him when he's out there -- nobody ever worried about those other guys. His puck-moving ability is way underrated, too.

Luke is also better.

Schultz, Manning, Amac... if any of them are better than the others, it's debatable. What's not debatable is that the Flyers obviously don't think much of AMac anymore.

Gudas is clearly better... his big mistakes/penalties stick in the mind, but overall, the Flyers have been much better overall with him on the ice than Amac, Grossmann, Schultz, etc. It seems like he's got attackers worrying about him when he's out there -- nobody ever worried about those other guys. His puck-moving ability is way underrated, too.

Luke is also better.

Schultz, Manning, Amac... if any of them are better than the others, it's debatable. What's not debatable is that the Flyers obviously don't think much of AMac anymore.
- Tomahawk

Gudas isn't better, he's simply cheaper, and adds the physical element that the team likes and needs. I do agree that he's underrated with the puck, he makes a nice first pass. He does however take a lot of risks, and is frequently out of position. MacDonald is far steadier, and a better puck mover, and better all around, in my opinion.

Gudas isn't better, he's simply cheaper, and adds the physical element that the team likes and needs. I do agree that he's underrated with the puck, he makes a nice first pass. He does however take a lot of risks, and is frequently out of position. MacDonald is far steadier, and a better puck mover, and better all around, in my opinion.
- MJL

I'd say they're both similar in effectiveness but tiebreaker goes to Gudas because he does bring that much needed physicality that this team lacks. Ideally you have a deep enough defense that a player of their caliber isn't a regular in the lineup.

My comment wasn't about what the Flyers believe, it was my opinion. In my opinion Gudas is not a better all around player than MacDonald is. He does however add a physical element to the lineup, that MacDonald does not, that I think the team needs.
- MJL

Ok. Pretty sure that the flyers opinion and your opinion of Amac are not close at all. That is based on some options the flyers have that they aren't executing. Like risking waiving or trading a fringe nhler in manning. Trading Luke schenn is an option also.

I'd say they're both similar in effectiveness but tiebreaker goes to Gudas because he does bring that much needed physicality that this team lacks. Ideally you have a deep enough defense that a player of their caliber isn't a regular in the lineup.
- Nucker101

I agree that the team needs the physicality that he brings to the ice, and they need at least one of Gudas or Schenn in the lineup. Truth is that all of the Flyers defenseman are solid players, if their put in the correct role. Even Manning if he's a #6 or 7. The problem comes down to lacking a top pairing.

The waiver factor comes into play also. There's no question that MacDonald is the better player. He's better all around than Schenn, Gudas, Manning, and at times, depending on how he plays, Schultz. The contract is the issue.
- MJL

If Macdonald was better then any of those guys he wouldn't be playing in Lehigh Valley.

Ok. Pretty sure that the flyers opinion and your opinion of Amac are not close at all. That is based on some options the flyers have that they aren't executing. Like risking waiving or trading a fringe nhler in manning. Trading Luke schenn is an option also.
- Just5

I think the contract is the biggest issue, in combination with they weren't impressed with MacDonald last season. He can safely pass through waivers because of the contract. It is pretty clear that MacDonald does not seem to be in their future plans.

If Macdonald was better then any of those guys he wouldn't be playing in Lehigh Valley.
- landros 2

I disagree.

Gudas is clearly better... his big mistakes/penalties stick in the mind, but overall, the Flyers have been much better overall with him on the ice than Amac, Grossmann, Schultz, etc. It seems like he's got attackers worrying about him when he's out there -- nobody ever worried about those other guys. His puck-moving ability is way underrated, too.

Luke is also better.

Schultz, Manning, Amac... if any of them are better than the others, it's debatable. What's not debatable is that the Flyers obviously don't think much of AMac anymore.
- Tomahawk

I disagree.
- MJL

I got that.

Yay only four more years to argue about MacDonald.

Objectivity, is the goal.
- MJL

Objectively, we're not a great hockey team right now.

- conkey

cheer up

I think the contract is the biggest issue, in combination with they weren't impressed with MacDonald last season. He can safely pass through waivers because of the contract. It is pretty clear that MacDonald does not seem to be in their future plans.
- MJL

I actually really agree with a lot of what you said about most of our guys being decent players when slotted in the correct postition. Amac takes a lot of flak but honestly his contract is the biggest issue. Every bad play is going to be magnified x10 going forward. I do not think he is a reliable top 4 option though. Top 6 guy with the ability to eat some extra minutes here and there.

Gudas is clearly better... his big mistakes/penalties stick in the mind, but overall, the Flyers have been much better overall with him on the ice than Amac, Grossmann, Schultz, etc. It seems like he's got attackers worrying about him when he's out there -- nobody ever worried about those other guys. His puck-moving ability is way underrated, too.

Luke is also better.

Schultz, Manning, Amac... if any of them are better than the others, it's debatable. What's not debatable is that the Flyers obviously don't think much of AMac anymore.
- Tomahawk

There's really not much difference between guys like Schultz, AMac, Manning...if MacDonald had Schultz's contract, i doubt anyone would mind him. He'd probably be playing. Of course, Schultz has been bad, so that sort of being a taller midget.

I do feel Gudas has played better, and the physical element is definitely cranked to 11 with Radko.

And here I thought we were all just on here entertaining ourselves, lol.
- Tomahawk

Your opinion is wrong. You should be embarrassed.

Objectively, we're not a great hockey team right now.
- Mordecai

I agree, and objectively, they probably won't be a for a few years. That's a general statement that is wide ranging. There are certainly many subsets if you will to discuss about the team, such as did they player well this game, did this player play well in this game, etc.

There's really not much difference between guys like Schultz, AMac, Manning...if MacDonald had Schultz's contract, i doubt anyone would mind him. He'd probably be playing. Of course, Schultz has been bad, so that sort of being a taller midget.

I do feel Gudas has played better, and the physical element is definitely cranked to 11 with Radko.
- Jsaquella

I don't like your opinion. It doesn't seem objective...like my opinion does.

Objectively, we're not a great hockey team right now.
- Mordecai

Objectivity and the passion and energy of sports, better together than peanut butter and jelly.