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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 13 @ 8:43 PM ET
Switches to Sunday Night Football.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 13 @ 8:46 PM ET
Vantel what u think of the L schenn trade report?
more what has been like.... I remember he was very physical in past but that was a while back....any current in on him?

- SMBDragon


I think we are looking at a 6/7'type guy. I don't mind if we get rid of an expiring contract. See how he plays and maybe he can re-sign cheap for a RHD
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 13 @ 8:47 PM ET
Switches to Sunday Night Football.
- LeftCoaster

Got Randy Bachman on CBC Radio 2 while the game is on mute...can't take the broadcasting...wow...

Even the WGN broadcast from CHI ain't great...homers lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 13 @ 8:51 PM ET
It was a bad trade IMO, the point of the initial comment; Vaive went onto a good career with 400 plus goals, much like Neely, I'd rather build around a good 5th overall offensive player than have Tiger Williams on my team. Although I did enjoy Tiger lol.

Managers with your train of thought are probably why we haven't won a Cup in 45 years

- LeftCoaster


Well stats r for losers eg the Leafs its not a pool dude.
As for Neely u say not much as usual n leave out much.
Neely n a 1st(Wesley) was compensation for signing Barry Pederson.
Never liked that deal but there u have the facts n yw.

Anytime u need a history lesson I'll fill in the blanks for u without googling it.
HawkfaninBC
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Victoria B.C.
Joined: 07.02.2012

Dec 13 @ 8:51 PM ET
Got Randy Bachman on CBC Radio 2 while the game is on mute...can't take the broadcasting...wow...

Even the WGN broadcast from CHI ain't great...homers lol

- LordHumungous

How's the weather in Blackfalds , I mean Red Deer tonight?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 13 @ 8:53 PM ET
Well stats r for losers eg the Leafs its not a pool dude.
As for Neely u say not much as usual n leave out much.
Neely n a 1st(Wesley) was compensation for signing Barry Pederson.
Never liked that deal but there u have the facts n yw.

Anytime u need a history lesson I'll fill in tbe blanks for u without googling it.

- Nighthawk


Stats are for losers? who are the puck possession/Corsi leaders in the past ten years? I'll give you a hint: They've all won Stanley cups or multiple cups.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 13 @ 8:53 PM ET
Well stats r for losers eg the Leafs its not a pool dude.
As for Neely u say not much as usual n leave out much.
Neely n a 1st(Wesley) was compensation for signing Barry Pederson.
Never liked that deal but there u have the facts n yw.

Anytime u need a history lesson I'll fill in the blanks for u without googling it.

- Nighthawk

yes oh wise one, you were the only one alive back then...

I'm well aware of our history and I assumed you are too, thus the omission of every fact.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Dec 13 @ 8:54 PM ET
I think we are looking at a 6/7'type guy. I don't mind if we get rid of an expiring contract. See how he plays and maybe he can re-sign cheap for a RHD
- VANTEL


so you are familiar with his play?

I think we should trust JB, usually a good assessor of talent,
just not looking forward to the whining to start over what we give up for him
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 13 @ 8:55 PM ET
Well stats r for losers eg the Leafs its not a pool dude.
As for Neely u say not much as usual n leave out much.
Neely n a 1st(Wesley) was compensation for signing Barry Pederson.
Never liked that deal but there u have the facts n yw.

Anytime u need a history lesson I'll fill in the blanks for u without googling it.

- Nighthawk

Your post reads like that of a twelve year old are you sure you aren't using a twelve year olds' phone as well?

Yipes...

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 13 @ 8:56 PM ET
so you are familiar with his play?

I think we should trust JB, usually a good assessor of talent,
just not looking forward to the whining to start over what we give up for him

- SMBDragon


As long as it isn't a top 3 draft pick, I don't mind. Schenn at least has quite a bit of NHL experience and at a young age. Not a great skater though.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 13 @ 8:56 PM ET
yes oh wise one, you were the only one alive back then...

I'm well aware of our history and I assumed you are too, this the omission of every fact.

- LeftCoaster



Don't think he was even born yet...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 13 @ 8:56 PM ET
so you are familiar with his play?

I think we should trust JB, usually a good assessor of talent,
just not looking forward to the whining to start over what we give up for him

- SMBDragon

He gets scratched a lot . He can play tough and he can get points . He is a risk for sure. The good thing if you get him now you have the rest of the year to evaluate his play

He does have a buyer beware label
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 13 @ 8:57 PM ET
yes oh wise one, you were the only one alive back then...
- LeftCoaster


Yes before your time.
Family friends with John Ferguson n Darryl Sittler n played against Barry Beck at the PNE forum. Worked the '72 Canada/Russia game.

Corsi doesn't win cups its the buzzword for stats only ppl.
One hot goalie makes it just an invalid stat.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 13 @ 8:58 PM ET
How's the weather in Blackfalds , I mean Red Deer tonight?
- HawkfaninBC

Crappy. -10c with about 30cm of snow in the past week and a half or so. Roads are crap. Same in Blackfalds lol...but I love it here!!

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 13 @ 8:58 PM ET
He gets scratched a lot . He can play tough and he can get points . He is a risk for sure. The good thing if you get him now you have the rest of the year to evaluate his play

He does have a buyer beware label

- VANTEL


Maybe that makes the price less
Hammer, straight across.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 13 @ 8:59 PM ET


Don't think he was even born yet...

- LordHumungous


Don't think u might pull something lol
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 13 @ 9:01 PM ET
Yes before your time.
Family friends with John Ferguson n Darryl Sittler n played against Barry Beck at the PNE forum. Worked the '72 Canada/Russia game.

Corsi doesn't win cups its the buzzword for stats only ppl.
One hot goalie makes it just an invalid stat.

- Nighthawk

1982 and Cam Neely were not before my time
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 13 @ 9:01 PM ET
Don't think u might pull something lol
- Nighthawk

I stopped thinking at 6pm Alberta time.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 13 @ 9:02 PM ET
Maybe that makes the price less
Hammer, straight across.

- neem55

Hammer is a huge overpayment.

Higgins is better. Flyers will get nothing of value back.. You are trading for a project player. High risk , medium reward

You are trading for last years Sbisa
HawkfaninBC
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Victoria B.C.
Joined: 07.02.2012

Dec 13 @ 9:03 PM ET
Crappy. -10c with about 30cm of snow in the past week and a half or so. Roads are crap. Same in Blackfalds lol...but I love it here!!


- LordHumungous

My daughter and family just moved back there, she wants me to move there when I'm ready to say goodbye to my job, I was in Calgary for 5 years and Edmonton for 12 years so I know what you mean, really enjoyed both cities.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Dec 13 @ 9:05 PM ET
He gets scratched a lot . He can play tough and he can get points . He is a risk for sure. The good thing if you get him now you have the rest of the year to evaluate his play

He does have a buyer beware label

- VANTEL


wonder why he gets scratched so much...

I guess if you had a coach who knew how to use him in a role that works it;d be good.
we obviously don't have that so I am leary
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 13 @ 9:05 PM ET
Hammer is a huge overpayment.

Higgins is better. Flyers will get nothing of value back.. You are trading for a project player. High risk , medium reward

You are trading for last years Sbisa

- VANTEL

The cap space is valuable to the Flyers, maybe, if they wanna make a move and push for the playoffs? Just a guess.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 13 @ 9:08 PM ET
Yes before your time.
Family friends with John Ferguson n Darryl Sittler n played against Barry Beck at the PNE forum. Worked the '72 Canada/Russia game.

Corsi doesn't win cups its the buzzword for stats only ppl.
One hot goalie makes it just an invalid stat.

- Nighthawk


I don't if you're 12 or 80, That is a piz poor argument. While I don't think we should ever rely totally on stats, Toews, Kopitar and Bergeron being the best corsi guys suggests they are very relevant. Saying that you watched hockey for a long time doesn't mean you know anything about it. You could watch every episode of MASH and never have anymore military knowledge. It also doesn't put you in a position to say "x stat is a buzzword" when literally every franchise is paying attention to FENWICK, CORSI, shot differential metrics when evaluating players in addition to scouting them first hand. getting old doesn't have to be about resisting change and denying that things are getting better. Hockey is the best it has ever been right now, why? they study it more closely, watch tape, collect stats. Rant over.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 13 @ 9:10 PM ET
Hammer is a huge overpayment.

Higgins is better. Flyers will get nothing of value back.. You are trading for a project player. High risk , medium reward

You are trading for last years Sbisa

- VANTEL


I'd rather see them trade for some d propects, Flyers have a few of those!
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 13 @ 9:11 PM ET
Can we trade Weber for L Schenn?

Please
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