Slump Buster
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He's only 25?
I was surprised to see he was still that young, I myself thought he was older.
Depends on what we would be giving up of course to acquire him.
At 25, i'd love to have him. - BuffaloHardHat
I think what might be most attractive about him is that if we purchased him we would then be able to turn around and spin an attractive asset (probably Reinhart) for a valuable return. After all, we couldn't afford to pay all of these guys. That said, there is in way I'd pay him 11 mill.
I'd probably stay the course. |
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RhinoFan
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Location: Visionville Joined: 10.12.2015
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goaltender here:
yes having 90 mph shots stick to you is difficult to say the least...but others have figured out how to do it (i never did)
he looks calm and collected which is good but rebound control can be his one chink in the armor methinks (for a career backup not tooooooo bad (i'll take it)) |
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BuffaloHardHat
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Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY Joined: 11.27.2012
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the already peaked part was a joke
I'd love to have him as a sabre, hate to see him leave the bolts though - homiedclown
I figured as much hc.
Wouldn't hurt my feelings if he left the Bolts to come here. |
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BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY Joined: 11.27.2012
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I think what might be most attractive about him is that if we purchased him we would then be able to turn around and spin an attractive asset (probably Reinhart) for a valuable return. After all, we couldn't afford to pay all of these guys. That said, there is in way I'd pay him 11 mill.
I'd probably stay the course. - Slump Buster
Anyone but Reinhart, O'Reilly and Ristolainen for me.
Trade anyone else and I wouldn't care. |
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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK! Joined: 07.27.2007
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the already peaked part was a joke
I'd love to have him as a sabre, hate to see him leave the bolts though - homiedclown
I peeked when I was a kid.
One night when I was older, I actually watched. |
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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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Anyone but Reinhart, O'Reilly and Ristolainen for me.
Trade anyone else and I wouldn't care. - BuffaloHardHat
You'd trade Eichel for a UFA to be? I mean even if you disliked him, that's just horrid asset management. |
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Sabresfan-365
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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the already peaked part was a joke
I'd love to have him as a sabre, hate to see him leave the bolts though - homiedclown
Buffalo checks off a lot of the boxes that Stamkos could be looking for in a team
Except for the most important one, it's not Toronto. It's why I wouldn't take the risk in parting with any major assets even though he's probably worth it. |
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buffalofan19
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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Except for the most important one, it's not Toronto. It's why I wouldn't take the risk in parting with any major assets even though he's probably worth it. - Sabresfan-365
The Sabres don't make that deal without assurances from his agent that they can sign him to an extension. |
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Der Kaiser
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Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK! Joined: 07.27.2007
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The Sabres don't make that deal without assurances from his agent that they can sign him to an extension. - buffalofan19
Once upon a time, Chris Drury assured Darcy that there was a deal ... |
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Sabresfan-365
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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The Sabres don't make that deal without assurances from his agent that they can sign him to an extension. - buffalofan19
Then you run into the same problem you did with O'Reilly, negotiating from a position of weakness. You'd wind up having to pay him close to max cap or worse, watch him pull a babcock. |
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BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY Joined: 11.27.2012
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You'd trade Eichel for a UFA to be? I mean even if you disliked him, that's just horrid asset management. - Sabresfan-365
Well, I am sure I would not offer him up. |
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buffalofan19
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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Once upon a time, Chris Drury assured Darcy that there was a deal ... - Der Kaiser
Fair enough, but why would Stamkos accept a trade to Buffalo right now unless he wanted to be there long term? Their chances of the postseason this year are worse than Tampa's right now. Unless he buys into the "Hockey Heaven" mantra, he nixes any deal to Buffalo in half a second. |
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buffalofan19
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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Then you run into the same problem you did with O'Reilly, negotiating from a position of weakness. You'd wind up having to pay him close to max cap or worse, watch him pull a babcock. - Sabresfan-365
There's not a team in this league that won't have to pay him max cap. If you trade for a guy like that, you better have full intention of backing up a Brinks truck to his house. |
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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK! Joined: 07.27.2007
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Fair enough, but why would Stamkos accept a trade to Buffalo right now unless he wanted to be there long term? Their chances of the postseason this year are worse than Tampa's right now. Unless he buys into the "Hockey Heaven" mantra, he nixes any deal to Buffalo in half a second. - buffalofan19
"Can sign" is very different than an agreement on all terms. |
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Sabresfan-365
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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Fair enough, but why would Stamkos accept a trade to Buffalo right now unless he wanted to be there long term? Their chances of the postseason this year are worse than Tampa's right now. Unless he buys into the "Hockey Heaven" mantra, he nixes any deal to Buffalo in half a second. - buffalofan19
That's a good point, I keep forgetting he has an NTC |
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BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY Joined: 11.27.2012
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http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/buf151221.html
More speculation on how we could be a good bet to get Stamkos. Did 89 or any of the other insiders ever mention how close we got to acquiring him? - Slump Buster
Thank you for sharing that link SB.
Made me salivate a little thinking of Stamkos in a Sabres sweater on a line with Samson.
If he doesn't sign here, I want him to sign anywhere but Toronto and I mean anywhere! |
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BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY Joined: 11.27.2012
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Except for the most important one, it's not Toronto. It's why I wouldn't take the risk in parting with any major assets even though he's probably worth it. - Sabresfan-365
Only a 2 hour trip down the QEW for him.
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RhinoFan
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Location: Visionville Joined: 10.12.2015
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RoR
Skunk
Eichel
Girgensons
Larsson
Schaller (legwand replacement)
We don't need centers and if I remember correctly, Stam looked awful in the playoffs as a winger. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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I peeked when I was a kid.
One night when I was older, I actually watched. - Der Kaiser
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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY Joined: 10.24.2006
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Anyone but Reinhart, O'Reilly and Ristolainen for me.
Trade anyone else and I wouldn't care. - BuffaloHardHat
Don't get me wrong - I wouldn't trade anyone to actually get him. I am thinking that if we did get him then we would have to trade quality players as we wouldn't be able to keep them all. Now that I've thought about it some more it probably wouldn't be Reinhart as we have him on the cheap for many years to come. |
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homiedclown
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The Sabres don't make that deal without assurances from his agent that they can sign him to an extension. - buffalofan19
I would think if Stamkos wants to play here, he would prefer to play the season out in tampa and thus keeping to sabres pipeline more full on july 1st |
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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY Joined: 10.24.2006
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Except for the most important one, it's not Toronto. It's why I wouldn't take the risk in parting with any major assets even though he's probably worth it. - Sabresfan-365
I can't imagine him wanting to go to Toronto. He has already been through one rebuild and they are years away from being anything. |
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homiedclown
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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RoR
Skunk
Eichel
Girgensons
Larsson
Schaller (legwand replacement)
We don't need centers and if I remember correctly, Stam looked awful in the playoffs as a winger. - RhinoFan
move ror back lw
ror-stamkos-skunk
kane-eichel-ennis
problem solved |
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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY Joined: 10.24.2006
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move ror back lw
ror-stamkos-skunk
kane-eichel-ennis
problem solved - homiedclown
You could probably ice that lineup for the next 4 years until some of the guys have to get paid. |
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homiedclown
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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I am pasting the first part
"Lightning captain Steven Stamkos made it clear on Saturday he wants to remain with the team long term, despite reports that he is probably on his way out of Tampa Bay.
Stamkos, who is in the final year of his contract, told the Tampa Bay Times that his representatives and the Lightning are "definitely still talking," and that he's optimistic an extension can be reached.
"Like I've always said, I envision myself winning a championship here and want to do that," Stamkos told the Tampa Bay Times. "Obviously, we got close last year, and I'm the captain of this team, and I want to be that leader."
Stamkos, 25, also denied any rumored rift with coach Jon Cooper, telling the Times, "That's false, too. ... There's been so many different articles written about Coop and I. How do they know what's going on in the room? A lot of it is speculation, a lot of it is a story that needs something to make it seem legit. There needs to be a reason [he's still unsigned]. Why no one has had any concrete stuff is because there hasn't been anything to talk about."
http://espn.go.com/nhl/st...a-bay-lightning-long-term |
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