That's not MacDonald's cap hit. That is the cap charge that the Flyers are charged with in salary retention minus the cap charge for when he was called up on the active roster, which is included in the call up total. Those are the numbers.
- MJL

So we have AMac's full cap hit, minus savings (950k) when he was sent to the AHL, plus an amount spent for recalling him? In other words, when he was called back up the $950k in savings was permanently reduced?

$5mm - 950k = 4,050,000 cap hit + the cost of recalling him?

So we have AMac's full cap hit, minus savings (950k) when he was sent to the AHL, plus an amount spent for recalling him? In other words, when he was called back up the $950k in savings was permanently reduced?

$5mm - 950k = 4,050,000 cap hit + the cost of recalling him?
- wolfhounds

(frank) it, all I know is that if they waive Gagner, problem solved.

That's not MacDonald's cap hit. That is the cap charge that the Flyers are charged with in salary retention minus the cap charge for when he was called up on the active roster, which is included in the call up total. Those are the numbers.
- MJL

That is what I wanted an explanation for...where are the call up charges being calculated, because from what I know, those charges are a daily hit...in other words, prorated from a season to the amount of time spent on the roster...it ends up being small and would be fixed by the flyers staying under the cap

(frank) it, all I know is that if they waive Gagner, problem solved.
- BiggE

Works for me.

That is what I wanted an explanation for...where are the call up charges being calculated
- YuenglingJagr

This is where the whole "the cap is calculated daily" comes into play, I believe. You take the number of days that the player was on the roster divided by the numbers of days in the season, and that is his cap hit (more or less). With AMac, it's pro-rating a pro-rated hit.

This is where the whole "the cap is calculated daily" comes into play, I believe. You take the number of days that the player was on the roster divided by the numbers of days in the season, and that is his cap hit (more or less). With AMac, it's pro-rating a pro-rated hit.
- jmatchett383

So as soon as AMac was recalled, his cap savings number was reduced. That's what I'm getting out of this. And I believe everything I read on the internet.

Thanks for the details. What site did you use?
- Feanor

nhlnumbers

So as soon as AMac was recalled, his cap savings number was reduced. That's what I'm getting out of this. And I believe everything I read on the internet.
- wolfhounds

Yes
The savings come from him not being in the NHL. As soon as he comes up, the savings number is reduced.

Can't wait for Hexy to activate Streit without doing anything and tell everyone the cap websites are all wrong

This is where the whole "the cap is calculated daily" comes into play, I believe. You take the number of days that the player was on the roster divided by the numbers of days in the season, and that is his cap hit (more or less). With AMac, it's pro-rating a pro-rated hit.
- jmatchett383

Yep. Knowing the full salary numbers helps, but for the daily hit Capgeek was really wonderful and so valuable. Now it's even more guess work & dealing with whole contracts.

That is what I wanted an explanation for...where are the call up charges being calculated, because from what I know, those charges are a daily hit...in other words, prorated from a season to the amount of time spent on the roster...it ends up being small and would be fixed by the flyers staying under the cap
- YuenglingJagr

Fixed by the Flyers staying under the cap doesn't make any sense. It's just simple math. You use a source that you trust, and just add it all up. No reason to complicate it. Whether you want to use the full cap charge for sending MacDonald down, or whether you want to adjust it for the time spent on the roster. You end up in the same place. In your original post, you obviously overlooked something.

Can't wait for Hexy to activate Streit without doing anything and tell everyone the cap websites are all wrong
- PhillySportsGuy

Hexy kicks in Bettman's door

"(frank) you and your Goddamned cap" and plugs him with a 12 gauge over under shotgun

nhlnumbers
- MJL

Do you know what bonuses Laughton hit to raise his cap hit to $1.076m?

This is where the whole "the cap is calculated daily" comes into play, I believe. You take the number of days that the player was on the roster divided by the numbers of days in the season, and that is his cap hit (more or less). With AMac, it's pro-rating a pro-rated hit.
- jmatchett383

Daily cap hit is cap hit/days of the season (186) X days on the roster.

Hexy kicks in Bettman's door

"(frank) you and your Goddamned cap" and plugs him with a 12 gauge over under shotgun
- Jsaquella

He will release one quote: "guys, we've had tons of cap space this entire time."

Do you know why Laughton's cap hit is $1.076m?
- Feanor

No I don't. That's the thing. If they're off anywhere, than that will obviously skew the numbers somewhat. It gives us a basic idea of what the Flyers need to do.

Did you include the 500K retained for Grossmann, or the 329K spent on call ups to this point?

Forwards 41,076,000
Defence 20,722,000
Goaltenders 5,725,000
MacDonald 4,941,0000
Grossmann 500,000
Call ups 329,000

Equals 72,293,000 minus 71,400,000 = 893,000. That's what they have to clear. I mistakenly posted 853K previously
- MJL

I noticed a typo - MacDonald is actually $3,941,000. But the rest of the numbers check out.

http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams/PHI?year=2016

removing gotstobehere would have a detrimental effect on this team imo...doesn't matter if it is a paper move or only one game...it sets a bad example.

I noticed a typo - MacDonald is actually $3,941,000. But the rest of the numbers check out.

http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams/PHI?year=2016
- Feanor

Only a million dollars...pfff...

I noticed a typo - MacDonald is actually $3,941,000. But the rest of the numbers check out.

http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams/PHI?year=2016
- Feanor

I understand all the numbers...I use NHL numbers too. However I think those numbers are fluid and change as the roster plays out the rest of the season.

removing gotstobehere would have a detrimental effect on this team imo...doesn't matter if it is a paper move or only one game...it sets a bad example.
- rinaldo

That's a bit grim. I think the players understand this is a money issue - I assume they all like getting paid - and they'll be ok for 1 game. And Streit's not a bad player to get back in the lineup. It's not like they are recalling AMac and sending Ghost down...

That's a bit grim. I think the players understand this is a money issue - I assume they all like getting paid - and they'll be ok for 1 game. And Streit's not a bad player to get back in the lineup. It's not like they are recalling AMac and sending Ghost down...
- wolfhounds

not grim...players want the best players in the lineup...you think they want to see him get sent down at all?

Do you know what bonuses Laughton hit to raise his cap hit to $1.076m?
- Feanor

He can get 212k in performance bonuses...but they can move to next year

not grim...players want the best players in the lineup...you think they want to see him get sent down at all?
- rinaldo

Nope, nobody wants him anywhere but on the ice with the Flyers. Ghost's tearing it up and apparently G's a big fan. I'm just saying for one game they can endure.

I noticed a typo - MacDonald is actually $3,941,000. But the rest of the numbers check out.

http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams/PHI?year=2016
- Feanor

It not a typo. There's a difference between cap hit and cap charge. They took away the cap charge for the time he spent on the active roster.
They're using cap number for cap hit, and cap hit for cap charge.