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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 31 @ 3:14 AM ET
Good to know
- Mononoke

i'll be here all night to straighten you out
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Dec 31 @ 4:12 AM ET
2 clutch goals from the elite pavelski 1 fluke goal from giroux
- 2Real

priceless
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 31 @ 7:50 AM ET
All Gudas. Played well otherwise too
- Mononoke


If you're talking about the first Pavelski goal, it's not all Gudas. In the Flyers system of back checking on the rush, the forwards have weak side responsibilities. Normally he's a good defensive forward, but watch the glide all the way in from the blue line that Couturier executed. Who exactly did his cover? He should've been made to pay for a ticket to the game on that play. Put your head on a swivel, find the open man, and keep skating. That coverage is on Couturier 100%. Even if he took just a few strides, he could've gotten into that passing lane.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 31 @ 7:53 AM ET
On a positive note, at least I fell asleep between the 2nd and 3rd periods


Oh, and Happy New Year all!
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 31 @ 8:05 AM ET
On a positive note, at least I fell asleep between the 2nd and 3rd periods


Oh, and Happy New Year all!

- BiggE


Beat you. Fell asleep after that riveting first period!



Happy New Year to Flyer Land!!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 31 @ 8:29 AM ET
Flyers d is very slow right now without mdz
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 31 @ 8:42 AM ET
I'm glad I slept thru the game since there's nothing worse than losing due to a combination of bad reffing and poor penalty killing.

Neuvirth getting sick the night of his first start in two weeks was not a nice surprise to wake up to.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 31 @ 8:44 AM ET
Flyers d is very slow right now without mdz
- Just5



At least Manning can't be blamed for the loss. They didn't look any better without him

landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 31 @ 8:44 AM ET
If you're talking about the first Pavelski goal, it's not all Gudas. In the Flyers system of back checking on the rush, the forwards have weak side responsibilities. Normally he's a good defensive forward, but watch the glide all the way in from the blue line that Couturier executed. Who exactly did his cover? He should've been made to pay for a ticket to the game on that play. Put your head on a swivel, find the open man, and keep skating. That coverage is on Couturier 100%. Even if he took just a few strides, he could've gotten into that passing lane.
- MJL


was thinking the same thing when they showed the replay....a lazy play.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 31 @ 8:45 AM ET
Dude I've watched the hit over and over it's a clean hit. VdV only gets koed because his head hit the ice.
- 2Real


Watch this hit from another angle.

https://pbs.twimg.com/twe...video/CXiFnNAWcAAUzqf.mp4

Watch his head snap to the left after Burns hits him.

Feel free to revisit your opinion given this information.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 31 @ 8:48 AM ET
At least Manning can't be blamed for the loss. They didn't look any better without him
- 3flyerkids


Ducks dominated the Flyers in possession.

Flyers dominated the Sharks in possession.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 31 @ 8:49 AM ET
I'm glad I slept thru the game since there's nothing worse than losing due to a combination of bad reffing and poor penalty killing.

Neuvirth getting sick the night of his first start in two weeks was not a nice surprise to wake up to.

- Feanor


I don't female dog about Ref-ing very often but that was an atrocious 3rd period by the zebra's....Hakstol did his best Berube impression and didn't seem to say much....Ryan White appeared to let them know that they sucked.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 31 @ 8:51 AM ET
Watch this hit from another angle.

https://pbs.twimg.com/twe...video/CXiFnNAWcAAUzqf.mp4

Watch his head snap to the left after Burns hits him.

Feel free to revisit your opinion given this information.

- johndewar


your 100% correct. VDV was engaged with another player and the target is the head....25 years ago that's a clean hit....not now.
Pretty sure the pizz poor excuse for player safety won't do squat....after all it's a star player hitting a Flyer.
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Dec 31 @ 8:53 AM ET
At least Manning can't be blamed for the loss. They didn't look any better without him
- 3flyerkids


Since I've been intently watching the juniors tourney, I keep telling myself each Flyers loss may be a better draft pick
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 31 @ 9:05 AM ET
Ducks dominated the Flyers in possession.

Flyers dominated the Sharks in possession.

- Feanor



And that's because of one player? Doubt it. The Dcore as a whole needs a lot of work, that is all i was saying.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Dec 31 @ 9:08 AM ET
does umberger have a no scoring clause as well? what a horrible trade that really turned out to be.
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Dec 31 @ 9:13 AM ET
does umberger have a no scoring clause as well? what a horrible trade that really turned out to be.
- rinaldo


C'mon he almost got one last night....sort of,er...he was near the net
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 31 @ 9:16 AM ET
does umberger have a no scoring clause as well? what a horrible trade that really turned out to be.
- rinaldo


he had a rough night and has had a rough year and a half.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Dec 31 @ 9:17 AM ET
he had a rough night and has had a rough year and a half.
- landros 2

rough several years
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 31 @ 9:32 AM ET
Watch this hit from another angle.

https://pbs.twimg.com/twe...video/CXiFnNAWcAAUzqf.mp4

Watch his head snap to the left after Burns hits him.

Feel free to revisit your opinion given this information.

- johndewar



Honestly I did not see the 2nd and 3rd periods, and that is the only replay I've seen to this point. From that angle, it looks like a good hit to me. I do however reserve the right to revise that opinion, if more evidence becomes available.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 31 @ 9:33 AM ET
does umberger have a no scoring clause as well? what a horrible trade that really turned out to be.
- rinaldo



That is what is! A no scoring clause. I have been trying to figure out.
The guy is fried, and let's just hope he will not be in a Flyer uniform next year.. Waived , bought out , just get him out!!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 31 @ 9:35 AM ET
C'mon he almost got one last night....sort of,er...he was near the net
- DaveofYork



Yea, if it wasn't for Umberger, Flyers would've won that game!
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 31 @ 9:45 AM ET
Yea, if it wasn't for their crappy PK Flyers would've won that game!
- MJL

Fixed

The Burns hit was blind sided shoulder to head
Should be a suspension but gutless pukes won't suspend him
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 31 @ 9:52 AM ET
Fixed

The Burns hit was blind sided shoulder to head
Should be a suspension but gutless pukes won't suspend him

- Marc D



I have to try and get a better look at the hit.
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