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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 30 @ 4:11 PM ET
If you bring in a top 6 winger who of the current top 6 do you demote?

Your choices are pretty much Schenn or Raffl.

- dragonoffrost


They really need 2 more top 9 forwards. thought Gagner would be one of them but I guess not. Laughton hopefully progresses into, but your top 7 are

G
Raffl
Schenn
Jake
Coots
Simmer
Read

Filling out the top 9 is really the only priority going forward
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 30 @ 4:11 PM ET
Raffl is ideally suited to play on a 3rd line in my opinion.
- MJL


Hakstol is playing his checking line of White, PEB, VV as the 3rd line. Whoever gets demoted is going with Laughts for 10 min a game if that.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 30 @ 4:12 PM ET


yep i deserved that one.

- dragonoffrost


hey it happens....I am mentally already celebrating NYE
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 30 @ 4:14 PM ET
Hakstol is playing his checking line of White, PEB, VV as the 3rd line. Whoever gets demoted is going with Laughts for 10 min a game if that.
- dragonoffrost



Aware of that, I was talking more about a long term vision of where Raffl fits in as a player. My mistake if you weren't.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Dec 30 @ 4:16 PM ET
Aware of that, I was talking more about a long term vision of where Raffl fits in as a player. My mistake if you weren't.
- MJL

trade raffle do not overpay to keep him.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 30 @ 4:17 PM ET
They really need 2 more top 9 forwards. thought Gagner would be one of them but I guess not. Laughton hopefully progresses into, but your top 7 are

G
Raffl
Schenn
Jake
Coots
Simmer
Read

Filling out the top 9 is really the only priority going forward

- YuenglingJagr


I wish Gagner and Laughts had panned out cause then Hakstol probably would be playing

Raffl-G-Schenn
Jake- Coots - Simmer
Read - Laughts- Gagner
White - PEB - VV

and rolling 4 lines equally.

Not that I'd keep those lines when cap space came available for a top 6 forward to be added.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 30 @ 4:35 PM ET
They really need 2 more top 9 forwards. thought Gagner would be one of them but I guess not. Laughton hopefully progresses into, but your top 7 are

G
Raffl
Schenn
Jake
Coots
Simmer
Read

Filling out the top 9 is really the only priority going forward

- YuenglingJagr


I counted 4 3rd liners out of our available top 7
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 30 @ 4:39 PM ET
I counted 4 3rd liners out of our available top 7
- Just5


Do you follow other teams in the NHL? I get wanting the Flyers to be better, but dont act like everyone would be 3rd liners on any other team
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 30 @ 4:39 PM ET
You mean Umberberger
- YuenglingJagr

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 30 @ 4:42 PM ET

- Nucker101


Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 30 @ 4:54 PM ET
Here's why you really shouldn't worry about Ghost on defense:




He doesn't have to be Nik Grossmann in his own zone b/c he's pretty bonkers at defending his own blueline and denying opponents entry at all.

(That Russian ain't bad either)
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 30 @ 4:55 PM ET
This is why you shouldn't worry about Ghost on defense:




He doesn't have to be Nik Grossmann in his own zone b/c he's pretty bonkers at defending his own blueline and denying opponents entry at all.

(That Russian ain't bad either)

- Tomahawk


Dat eye test doe
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 30 @ 4:55 PM ET
Do you follow other teams in the NHL? I get wanting the Flyers to be better, but dont act like everyone would be 3rd liners on any other team
- YuenglingJagr


I only care about the better teams in the league.

I don't get off on comparing our forward group to other crap teams

Look at the forward groupings on teams like Montreal, Florida

Now outside of g, Jake, Simmonds. Which one of our other forwards would bump somebody out of their top 6?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 30 @ 4:57 PM ET
I only care about the better teams in the league.

I don't get off on comparing our forward group to other crap teams

- Just5


So please list some examples...I really think you are just being negadelphia about who we have
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 30 @ 4:58 PM ET
logan couture is playing tonight we're going to lose
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 30 @ 4:59 PM ET
So please list some examples...I really think you are just being negadelphia about who we have
- YuenglingJagr


Florida, Montreal, Boston. Whose bumping what player out of their top 6 scorers?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 30 @ 5:00 PM ET
logan couture is playing tonight we're going to lose
- 2Real

Plus Pavelski, wish we had a real leader and elite player
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 30 @ 5:01 PM ET
Florida, Montreal, Boston. Whose bumping what player out of their top 6 scorers?
- Just5

VDV

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 30 @ 5:05 PM ET
Here's why you really shouldn't worry about Ghost on defense:




He doesn't have to be Nik Grossmann in his own zone b/c he's pretty bonkers at defending his own blueline and denying opponents entry at all.

(That Russian ain't bad either)

- Tomahawk


Most of the game is really played in the neutral zone, and Gostisbehere is a really good skater that allows him to be aggressive, plus he has a really good stick. His speed also helps him on puck retrievals. Gostisbehere is never going to be a shutdown defender, and he should be used properly in matchups. There is always going to be some concern with him defensively, because teams are going to try and take advantage of his size deficiency, and try to get the puck behind him to work cycles. He also can be attacked at the net.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 30 @ 5:06 PM ET
Plus Pavelski, wish we had a real leader and elite player
- Nucker101


Like Couture and Joe Polanski
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 30 @ 5:15 PM ET
(frank) 10:30 starts. They shouldn't have hockey West of Minnesota.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 30 @ 5:16 PM ET
So please list some examples...I really think you are just being negadelphia about who we have
- YuenglingJagr


Bergeron, krecji, eriksson, spooner, Marchand, beleskey, Hayes

Paccioretty, galchenyuk, Gallagher, plekanec, desharnais, weise, fleishmann

Jagr, huberdaeu, jokinen, barkov, trocheck, r smith, pirri.


I've listed 7 for each team. All have more pts than any forward on our team not named Simmonds, Jake, or g. Most have not spent near as much time on a line with an elite talent like g, or spent most the season on the PP1 unit like b schenn has

We don't need top 9 forwards. We need top 6 forwards
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 30 @ 5:21 PM ET
Bergeron, krecji, eriksson, spooner, Marchand, beleskey, Hayes

Paccioretty, galchenyuk, Gallagher, plekanec, desharnais, weise, fleishmann

Jagr, huberdaeu, jokinen, barkov, trocheck, r smith, pirri.


I've listed 7 for each team. All have more pts than any forward on our team not named Simmonds, Jake, or g. Most have not spent near as much time on a line with an elite talent like g, or spent most the season on the PP1 unit like b schenn has

We don't need top 9 forwards. We need top 6 forwards

- Just5


More points on the season = better players. Nothing else matters but scoring and setting up goals at the current moment. Dale Weise > Brayden Schenn. But last season, Raffl > Weise.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 30 @ 5:24 PM ET
Bergeron, krecji, eriksson, spooner, Marchand, beleskey, Hayes

Paccioretty, galchenyuk, Gallagher, plekanec, desharnais, weise, fleishmann

Jagr, huberdaeu, jokinen, barkov, trocheck, r smith, pirri.


I've listed 7 for each team. All have more pts than any forward on our team not named Simmonds, Jake, or g. Most have not spent near as much time on a line with an elite talent like g, or spent most the season on the PP1 unit like b schenn has

We don't need top 9 forwards. We need top 6 forwards

- Just5


What would happen if you took one of the Flyers forwards, and placed them on the Canadiens team? How many points would they score?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 30 @ 5:24 PM ET
More points on the season = better players. Nothing else matters but scoring goals. Dale Weise > Brayden Schenn.
- jmatchett383


He bumps weise. He's still behind the other 6 players
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