I'm not sure what their never having won a cup has to do anything. They have never gotten into trouble off the ice, they train their asses off, give back to their community, etc. Is the value of that diminished because they don't have a cup?

Of course the franchise comes first, but I'm not in any hurry to watch the franchise I cheer for race for last.
- CubanBuffet

Everyone knows they have been model citizens. That is a different issue. I think Lefty was referring to they may want to add that to their accomplishments. That won't happen here. If they want a realistic chance at a cup they have to decide to move.

You only move them if it beniifits everyone.

Karma dude...don't forget your friends on HB when you win
- LordHumungous

You're going to regret those words when your commentary box of Naked Grape shows up on your doorstep.
- CubanBuffet

Yes they did but don't forget how many middle picks they acquired or had, plus assets they traded, before they hit the reset. The Canucks don't have that.

This trade deadline could change some of that though if Benning has any brains in his head and he trades Vrbata, Hamhuis and maybe Miller. These are the picks they actually made, and below it are the older players they traded for picks to land other players.

2011 - they picked 16th overall
2012 - they picked 12th & 14th overall
2013 - they picked 8th & 16th overall plus 3 second round picks
2014 - they picked 2nd overall plus 3 second round picks again
2015 - they picked second overall again

Also, their asset management was good with the Miller, Ott and Vanek trades.

Vanek to the Islanders for the 21st pick, then to the Sens for Lehner
Miller & Ott to the Blues for the 25th pick used to land Kane & Bogo

They didn't just start from scratch like the Oilers did with 18 year olds, they traded for young established players.
- LeftCoaster

What's happened to you Lefty? You are a few posts away from going full Nucker. What caused the sudden change? Management is staying the course and getting younger whenever they have an opportunity. You are starting to make posts that leave out pertinent information to get your points across. You are one of the good guys!

My 1st flagging of the new year
- A_SteamingLombardi

Losing for six years wears on a young player, but six weeks is nothing, to see what you've got.
- LeftCoaster

Don't forget that Hall is almost a PPG player on the worst team in the last several years.

Bieksa got his first of the season tonight

What's happened to you Lefty? You are a few posts away from going full Nucker. What caused the sudden change? Management is staying the course and getting younger whenever they have an opportunity. You are starting to make posts that leave out pertinent information to get your points across. You are one of the good guys!
- CanuckDon

I guess I got impatient today

I guess I got impatient today
- LeftCoaster

Please don't go full PHucker Lefty...

I guess I got impatient today
- LeftCoaster

Could it have anything to do with the chores you were doing today?

Bieksa got his first of the season tonight
- VANTEL

That's over 10 mil per for both players for 6 goals so far...



Well done ANA

Don't forget that Hall is almost a PPG player on the worst team in the last several years.
- Retinalz

Hall is a top 5 LW in league regardless of what people think of the OIL or not.

That's over 10 mil per for both players for 6 goals so far...



Well done ANA
- LordHumungous

I scratch my head at the Ducks . They have traded away youth for some bad decisions

Bieksa got his first of the season tonight
- VANTEL

Gibson looks like he's stealing the job, hopefully them and SJ push hard

I scratch my head at the Ducks . They have traded away youth for some bad decisions
- VANTEL

And their D...letting Bauchemein and Belesky go and there was one other guy..

And their D...letting Bauchemein and Belesky go and there was one other guy..
- LordHumungous

Yeah dumb moves and it is showing

Please don't go full PHucker Lefty...


- LordHumungous

deal

Could it have anything to do with the chores you were doing today?
- A_SteamingLombardi

I was thinking about Benning making trades at the TDL, got annoyed with him from past trades. Sorry but him and Willie are starting to annoy me.

I was thinking about Benning making trades at the TDL, got annoyed with him from past trades. Sorry but him and Willie are starting to annoy me.
- LeftCoaster

Try Midol for that, my wife tells me it helps during menaposal time.

Try Midol for that, my wife tells me it helps during menaposal time.
- Makita

I was thinking about Benning making trades at the TDL, got annoyed with him from past trades. Sorry but him and Willie are starting to annoy me.
- LeftCoaster

you think you get a choice in this matter?

I was thinking about Benning making trades at the TDL, got annoyed with him from past trades. Sorry but him and Willie are starting to annoy me.
- LeftCoaster

Just growing pains dude...

you think you get a choice in this matter?
- A_SteamingLombardi

No....but I get annoyed at a lot of things I have no control over

Statement game today...let's hope it carries over...
- LordHumungous

Hate the hawks

Packers suck