Exactly, why jeopardize the performance of the kids in the A when the team is going to suck anyways?

Unlike the Canucks, they are playing a prominent roll on a competitive team with a decent shot of making some noise in the playoffs.

Furthermore, at this stage in their careers, I think Travis Green is a better mentor for them over W.D.
- Delta-Bravo

Where's the jeopardy? Play 18 mins a night in Utica ( basically a 500 team) or 16 mins a night in Vancouver ( albeit a little under 500 team) ? Willie said it himself...it's better the pros then jr right? Well better the best league in the world over the AHL then?

Moving he vets at TDL and playing Shink Gaunce and Grenier for the remaining five weeks would give you an idea of where they stand and how the team would fair. Then in the Summer go out shopping to fill the gaps
- VANTEL

Real nice window....can always get different ....even effective vets. Or keep Higgins who gives us absolutely nothing or weber who quite frankly gives his all for the opposition !

Shinkaruk is a winger, Vey is a center, ain't happening.
- LeftCoaster

They had Vey on wing last year too.

My point was more the team seems to favor Vey over Shink thus far.

Where's the jeopardy? Play 18 mins a night in Utica ( basically a 500 team) or 16 mins a night in Vancouver ( albeit a little under 500 team) ? Willie said it himself...it's better the pros then jr right? Well better the best league in the world over the AHL then?
- Bullfrog77

Losing for six years wears on a young player, but six weeks is nothing, to see what you've got.

The team needs the picks they'd get from trading veteran players.
- LeftCoaster

Yes...they really do! Let JB s best quality a go to work

That's a crock, how would they stall development, because they're not in the AHL anymore? Because they'd probably lose? Their roles at the NHL level would be similar to their roles in the AHL.

Do you think Aleskander Barkov's development stalled last year because Florida lost a lot? Do you think Nick Bjugstad's development stalled because he was in a losing environment? Do you think Landeskog or MacKinnon's development stalled because they were in a losing environment?

No...they've gotten better outside of the sophomore slump and grown as players. Get a good pick and then surround the kids with some vets again next year.
- LeftCoaster

Oh? So Gaunce and Shink would be 1st liners playing 15-20mins a night?

You just listed 3 top 3 prospects and a freak of nature. How many kids are drafted a year, how many go on to have long lasting, successful careers.

I can go to one extreme as well.

Nyquist, Tatar, Toffoli, Pearson,

They had Vey on wing last year too.

My point was more the team seems to favor Vey over Shink thus far.
- VANTEL

I think because Vey had already played and been successful at the AHL level where Shinkaruk had not.

Because of the past year and a half of development with Shinkaruk he's now much more NHL ready.

Plus the system needs as many picks as it can get from moving veterans.
- LeftCoaster

Your record is stuck.

You sure it's not all virtanen's fault?
- Mungo

I blame luongo somehow that's what we do here

Oh? So Gaunce and Shink would be 1st liners playing 15-20mins a night?

You just listed 3 top 3 prospects and a freak of nature. How many kids are drafted a year, how many go on to have long lasting, successful careers.

I can go to one extreme as well.

Nyquist, Tatar, Toffoli, Pearson,
- Delta-Bravo

The point is it doesn't hurt them to look at them for five weeks to see where they're at, plus get the much needed picks for the system. It's not as big a deal as you're making it.

They'll probably only move a couple guys anyways, let's see how it plays out at the TDL. They'll be perfectly fine either way.

Your record is stuck.
- A_SteamingLombardi

It's been a busy day

the damned

That's a crock, how would they stall development, because they're not in the AHL anymore? Because they'd probably lose? Their roles at the NHL level would be similar to their roles in the AHL.

Do you think Aleskander Barkov's development stalled last year because Florida lost a lot? Do you think Nick Bjugstad's development stalled because he was in a losing environment? Do you think Landeskog or MacKinnon's development stalled because they were in a losing environment?


No...they've gotten better outside of the sophomore slump and grown as players. Get a good pick and then surround the kids with some vets again next year.
- LeftCoaster

Flagged for your own good.

I think that your account has been hacked, don't worry I've reported it to the authorities, they should get this sorted out shortly and return the real lefty to us.

By the way nucker, they may stall their development by getting less minutes in the nhl then in the AHL, there is no way they would get more minutes or play in more pressure packed situations if they get called up.

I think because Vey had already played and been successful at the AHL level where Shinkaruk had not.

Because of the past year and a half of development with Shinkaruk he's now much more NHL ready.
- LeftCoaster

Shink maybe NHL ready but I will have more faith when he is actually on the roster.

I think playing him 8 minutes on the 4 th line last time up is hard for me to think WD is on board the Shink train

Where's the jeopardy? Play 18 mins a night in Utica ( basically a 500 team) or 16 mins a night in Vancouver ( albeit a little under 500 team) ? Willie said it himself...it's better the pros then jr right? Well better the best league in the world over the AHL then?
- Bullfrog77

By that standard, why have minor league teams at all?
Any kid coming out of the draft ought to just jump right in, "it's better in the pro's" right?

For example, if we hope to develop Shink into a 1st line scorer, would it not be better playing him as say Daniel Sedin in Utica as opposed to behind him on the second or third line in the NHL?

Patience, why is that such a bloody hard concept for some to understand. Y'all through around 5-7 year rebuild plans yet don't see the benefits of allowing the kids to develop in the AHL for half a (frank)ing year

I can't believe I have to cheer for the Packers

Flagged for your own good.

I think that your account has been hacked, don't worry I've reported it to the authorities, they should get this sorted out shortly and return the real lefty to us.

By the way nucker, they may stall their development by getting less minutes in the nhl then in the AHL, there is no way they would get more minutes or play in more pressure packed situations of they get called up.


- Pres.cup

again....for five weeks you're not going to ruin them by putting them in NHL situations.

again....for five weeks you're not going to ruin them by putting them in NHL situations.
- LeftCoaster

It is very common for teams to bring in prospects after TDL if they in the bottom of the league. Ferarros talks about it a lot.

By that standard, why have minor league teams at all?
Any kid coming out of the draft ought to just jump right in, "it's better in the pro's" right?

For example, if we hope to develop Shink into a 1st line scorer, would it not be better playing him as say Daniel Sedin in Utica as opposed to behind him on the second or third line in the NHL?

Patience, why is that such a bloody hard concept for some to understand. Y'all through around 5-7 year rebuild plans yet don't see the benefits of allowing the kids to develop in the AHL for half a (frank)ing year
- Delta-Bravo

Oh cmon they've developed in the AHL for a few years now and they're so much better off for it. Those kids are gonna be sheltered at the NHL level because they're not elite players, they're gonna have to prove themselves each and every day, which is no different than every other young player.

It is very common for teams to bring in prospects after TDL if they in the bottom of the league. Ferarros talks about it a lot.
- VANTEL

That's assuming Benning finds any takers for our trash.

I don't know about you, but i don't envision Higgins, Burrows and Miller being sought after commodities.

Vrbatta NMC
Hamhuis NTC

Possibly.

I can't believe I have to cheer for the Packers
- A_SteamingLombardi

You a Vikes fan ?

That's assuming Benning finds any takers for our trash.

I don't know about you, but i don't envision Higgins, Burrows and Miller being sought after commodities.

Vrbatta NMC
Hamhuis NTC

Possibly.
- Delta-Bravo

Vrbata doesn't have a NMC

He has a partial NTC .

I agree it is going to be hard to move that crap. Hopefully it shows JB about holding on to aging assets too long

That's assuming Benning finds any takers for our trash.

I don't know about you, but i don't envision Higgins, Burrows and Miller being sought after commodities.

Vrbatta NMC
Hamhuis NTC

Possibly.
- Delta-Bravo

It could be much ado about nothing, but it's good to discuss

Oh cmon they've developed in the AHL for a few years now and they're so much better off for it. Those kids are gonna be sheltered at the NHL level because they're not elite players, they're gonna have to prove themselves each and every day, which is no different than every other young player.
- LeftCoaster

Agreeeeed, but in the case of Shink and Gaunce, this is their second pro (half) year after what was frankly, a pretty sub-par outing from them last time around.

If anything, if Virt and McCann remain ineffective this year, Benning ought to look at simply switching them out between leagues with Shink and Gaunce next season.

again....for five weeks you're not going to ruin them by putting them in NHL situations.
- LeftCoaster

I'm ok with bringing in the kids for the end of the season, if we're sunk...ie we have traded vets and are resting Sedin's and mathematically eliminated.

But players like Shink need top 6 opportunities. Unless Sven is out, i don't see him fitting in.