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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 4 @ 11:51 AM ET
@davegissac has the D pairings in practice as:

MDZ-Gudas
Schultz-Streit
Manning-Ghost
Medvedev-Schenn

But I'd be shocked if Medvedev sits. He's been logging tons of ice time lately.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/pl...&season=20152016&view=log
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 4 @ 11:52 AM ET
If Ghost is scratched tomorrow along with Manning would anyone here be mad?

I'm perfectly fine with the kid getting a rest while they keep playing Luke Schenn with less than two months till the trade deadline. And as good as Ghost has been, I think Streit is still a better 5 on 4 PP QB.

- Feanor


Gostisbehere has struggled the last few games, and might be helped by a night off. Of course, getting right back on the bull isn't the worst idea, either.

I wouldn't be mad over a game here or there, especially if they can use it to showcase a guy like Luke Schenn for a potential trade
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:52 AM ET
Agreed, but the PP is terrible this year, so it's not really saying much. In all honesty, I think Schenn is the least important of the 5 players on the PP anyway.
- PhillySportsGuy


I don't think the PP has been terrible. Not up to our usual standards but not terrible. Schenn gets the least amount of touches on the PP.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 4 @ 11:52 AM ET
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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:53 AM ET
We've already had the debate that Schenn should be carrying Giroux or Schenn is somehow holding Giroux back, even though I've seen Giroux carry a guy like Arron Asham. Giroux has to be better. He has to be the best player his line and on this team. Lately he hasn't.
- SuperSchennBros


Giroux is getting older. He's still good, but he's not the guy who is going to carry weak linemates to great point production. His possession numbers remain strong and he's still a great PKer.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 4 @ 11:53 AM ET
They let him walk, which is different than releasing him. Sucks to give up assets for him, but it's not that big of a deal. Team could have 4 first rounders along with Saric and Embiid joining the team next year. Those 2nd rounders were going to be used as draft and stash players anyway. They can always acquire more 2nds if they need to anyway.
- PhillySportsGuy


Isn't it about time to swap Okafor for another 1st rounder? Seems like he's played the requisite number of games for Sam's liking.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 4 @ 11:53 AM ET
How bout trading two picks for a player they released last year? Ish Smith. I believe they released him.
- PLindbergh31


poop, at least Ish Smith is an active player. Brand retired last year.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 4 @ 11:54 AM ET
Gostisbehere has struggled the last few games, and might be helped by a night off. Of course, getting right back on the bull isn't the worst idea, either.

I wouldn't be mad over a game here or there, especially if they can use it to showcase a guy like Luke Schenn for a potential trade

- Jsaquella



I am ok living with his mistakes.

My question is when does Schultz get a breather.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 4 @ 11:54 AM ET
I am ok living with his mistakes.

My question is when does Schultz get a breather.

- J35Bacher


It's not uncommon to see a coach fall in love with some players at the expense of other players.
- johndewar
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 4 @ 11:55 AM ET
It's a tough area on the ice. No touches. Acts as a screen. When he does touch it, it's a split second decision. Pass or shoot. If he shoots, Schenn has to be incredibly accurate. Raffl and Vinny struggled some here.
- SuperSchennBros


IMO, they might want to look into changing their PP formation soon.

The high forward in the middle is often irrelevant, and creates a lot of unnecessary traffic in passing and shooting lanes -- particularly potential cross-ice one-timers between Jake and G that gets the goalie going post to post.

I'd try a more traditional umbrella setup vs the 1-3-1 they're using now:

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 4 @ 11:55 AM ET
I am ok living with his mistakes.

My question is when does Schultz get a breather.

- J35Bacher


You and that crazy talk
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:55 AM ET
Isn't it about time to swap Okafor for another 1st rounder? Seems like he's played the requisite number of games for Sam's liking.
- jmatchett383


I hope so. Okafor is brutal defensively and I'm sick of his (frank)ing moping every game like the losing is everyone else's fault. Maybe try hedging on a pick and roll once in a while instead of planting yourself in the (frank)ing paint.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 4 @ 11:56 AM ET
Giroux is getting older. He's still good, but he's not the guy who is going to carry weak linemates to great point production. His possession numbers remain strong and he's still a great PKer.
- PhillySportsGuy


I think he will look younger when the team gets better. The Sedins best seasons came when they were 29 and 30.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:56 AM ET
Giroux is getting older. He's still good, but he's not the guy who is going to carry weak linemates to great point production. His possession numbers remain strong and he's still a great PKer.
- PhillySportsGuy

This is your argument? He's getting older...
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:57 AM ET
poop, at least Ish Smith is an active player. Brand retired last year.
- Jsaquella


Everyone complained about not having enough vets on the team. Now you complain about having a vet.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 4 @ 11:58 AM ET
You and that crazy talk
- Jsaquella



Sorry.

Don't know what I was thinking.

Him and Vandevelde are untouchables in the lineup.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 4 @ 11:58 AM ET
poop, at least Ish Smith is an active player. Brand retired last year.
- Jsaquella


They are a total mess. I'm not a Sixers fan, nor am I really an NBA fan, but jfc couldn't they have at least retired Moses Malone's number before he passed away? Give the guy a night. He was such a great player.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 4 @ 11:59 AM ET
Sorry.

Don't know what I was thinking.

Him and Vandevelde are untouchables in the lineup.

- J35Bacher


I heard Schultz was recently given an honorary degree from UND.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 4 @ 12:00 PM ET
IMO, they might want to look into changing their PP formation soon.

The high forward in the middle is often irrelevant, and creates a lot of unnecessary traffic in passing and shooting lanes -- particularly potential cross-ice one-timers between Jake and G that gets the goalie going post to post.

I'd try a more traditional umbrella setup vs the 1-3-1 they're using now:


- Tomahawk


I 100% agree with you. It's not all Schenn, it's how he's used. It's the strategy of the team. The new argument is he prefers right at even strength. We just put him there this year. So what was the expectation the moment we finally gave him a home in his 5th season?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 4 @ 12:00 PM ET
This is your argument? He's getting older...
- SuperSchennBros


I'm not arguing anything. I'm saying Giroux isn't what he was 2-3 years ago. He's not going to score 80-90 points with just any linemates. His ES scoring hasn't been elite for a while now. I still think he's really good, but he needs more help than Schenn and Raffl.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 4 @ 12:00 PM ET
They are a total mess. I'm not a Sixers fan, nor am I really an NBA fan, but jfc couldn't they have at least retired Moses Malone's number before he passed away? Give the guy a night. He was such a great player.
- PLindbergh31


That was when I really stopped being a Sixers fan. Traded Moses Malone for a white dude with bad knees. Jesus, what an awful trade
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 4 @ 12:00 PM ET
Sorry.

Don't know what I was thinking.

Him and Vandevelde are untouchables in the lineup.

- J35Bacher


I'm waiting for Hakstol to rip the C off of Giroux's jersey and give it to VDV in a very close, romantic (yet somewhat hexterosexual) public display.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 4 @ 12:01 PM ET
I think he will look younger when the team gets better. The Sedins best seasons came when they were 29 and 30.
- Feanor


Agreed. He needs better players around him. His even strength scoring was down when he played with Voracek too though.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 4 @ 12:01 PM ET
That was when I really stopped being a Sixers fan. Traded Moses Malone for a white dude with bad knees. Jesus, what an awful trade
- Jsaquella


Hey, lay off of random unknown white dude, he's got bad knees. Give him a break!
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 4 @ 12:02 PM ET
I'm not arguing anything. I'm saying Giroux isn't what he was 2-3 years ago. He's not going to score 80-90 points with just any linemates. His ES scoring hasn't been elite for a while now. I still think he's really good, but he needs more help than Schenn and Raffl.
- PhillySportsGuy

Getzlaf has been a bandaid for along time and still managed to get into Hart Trophy talks with Giroux 2 or 3 years ago and he's a number of years older.
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