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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 4 @ 4:02 PM ET
I don't blame him.
- johndewar

There was conversation on the radio when they announced the 3 on 3 format and Jeff O'Neil said they made them play 3 on 3 in practice as a punishment for a game when the coach thought they didn't skate hard enough.


The NHL...
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 4 @ 4:15 PM ET
I don't blame him.
- johndewar


Same. Let him go to the Bahamas.

#freeJagr
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jan 4 @ 4:26 PM ET
Here's my take on Tampa bay and drouin. The stamkos issue needs to be resolved shortly and first. He's not staying. If he wanted to he would have signed a deal or runors would be flying it's close. Unfortunately Tampa is in a bad spot. His value will be highest now till trade deadline. I get a feeling everyone involved knows where he wants to go so that team sure won't trade assets in off season. I think Tampa is screwed here. Drouin needs to get them a haul in assets to make it worth it to them now and in the future. Can u imagine trading stamkos and drouin the same season and screwing it up !!!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 4 @ 4:26 PM ET
http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Hockey/NHL/AllStarGame/2016/01/04/22589475.html

Jagr on being voted into the All Star Game

- mayorofangrytown


"One reporter challenged Jagr, reminding the first-ballot Hall of Famer that Nashville is a nice city.

“That's great,” Jagr responded. “I'd rather be in Florida, trust me. Or the Bahamas.”

Legend
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 4 @ 4:33 PM ET
"One reporter challenged Jagr, reminding the first-ballot Hall of Famer that Nashville is a nice city.

“That's great,” Jagr responded. “I'd rather be in Florida, trust me. Or the Bahamas.”

Legend

- jmatchett383


Greatest personality in the NHL today. The guy just rules.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 4 @ 4:34 PM ET
Alright, I have to ask. Do you guys really believe Ghost is a bigger threat on the PP than Streit?

I say Streit. He's steady, experienced. You want to move the puck, not your feet unless you absolutely have to. If the Flyers hold the offensive zone from the top of the umbrella, it means they're in control.

Mark Streit was our best player prior to his injury.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 4 @ 4:37 PM ET
I'll just say that the 5 on 4 powerplay has not been any better since Ghost took over.

At 4 on 3 his skating is helpful, but that's usually only applicable in OT.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 4 @ 4:38 PM ET
They offered MacDonald 4 years, $4mm per...maybe if the Flyers ate $1mm per year
- Jsaquella

Maybe they want Streit back.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 4 @ 4:39 PM ET
I'll just say that the 5 on 4 powerplay has not been any better since Ghost took over.

At 4 on 3 his skating is helpful, but that's usually only applicable in OT.

- Feanor

Yep.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 4 @ 4:43 PM ET
Alright, I have to ask. Do you guys really believe Ghost is a bigger threat on the PP than Streit?

I say Streit. He's steady, experienced. You want to move the puck, not your feet unless you absolutely have to. If the Flyers hold the offensive zone from the top of the umbrella, it means they're in control.

Mark Streit was our best player prior to his injury.

- SuperSchennBros


You'd think Streit would take it over again for Hexy to showcase him for the TDL
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 4 @ 4:45 PM ET
I'll just say that the 5 on 4 powerplay has not been any better since Ghost took over.

At 4 on 3 his skating is helpful, but that's usually only applicable in OT.

- Feanor


Well considering the Flyers PP is ranked 27th in the NHL it's hard to say that Ghost has made a significant impact on the power play. The eye test says his ability to move the puck, as well as shoot the puck is pretty impressive.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 4 @ 4:50 PM ET
You'd think Streit would take it over again for Hexy to showcase him for the TDL
- arichardson22

This is what I'd been thinking too.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 4 @ 4:51 PM ET
Alright, I have to ask. Do you guys really believe Ghost is a bigger threat on the PP than Streit?

I say Streit. He's steady, experienced. You want to move the puck, not your feet unless you absolutely have to. If the Flyers hold the offensive zone from the top of the umbrella, it means they're in control.

Mark Streit was our best player prior to his injury.

- SuperSchennBros


Unfortunately Streit is 38 years of age, coming off an injury. He's also under contract next year at 5.3 million. His value will probably be the highest at next years trade deadline. Playoff rental for a contender looking for some offense on the backend.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 4 @ 5:05 PM ET
Provorov named one of three best players in WJC by the coaches. He really was a beast all through the tourney
- Jsaquella


I'm hoping provy gets a gold medal out of the wjc. Good confidence builder for next year when he starts full time on the flyers d.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 4 @ 5:07 PM ET
You'd think Streit would take it over again for Hexy to showcase him for the TDL
- arichardson22


Hell. Send them streit and macd for picks. Garth owes hexy a solid.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 4 @ 5:11 PM ET
Unfortunately Streit is 38 years of age, coming off an injury. He's also under contract next year at 5.3 million. His value will probably be the highest at next years trade deadline. Playoff rental for a contender looking for some offense on the backend.
- PLindbergh31


I would put Streit back on the top unit but I would also trade him at this deadline for as much as I could get. Offensive defenseman are valuable players.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 4 @ 5:14 PM ET
Well considering the Flyers PP is ranked 27th in the NHL it's hard to say that Ghost has made a significant impact on the power play. The eye test says his ability to move the puck, as well as shoot the puck is pretty impressive.
- PLindbergh31


He hasn't but it wasn't exactly a house afire when Streit was healthy. No issue in putting Streit back on the 1st unit, but it's no guarantee that it fixes things.

Tomfan365
Joined: 03.11.2013

Jan 4 @ 5:14 PM ET
Unfortunately Streit is 38 years of age, coming off an injury. He's also under contract next year at 5.3 million. His value will probably be the highest at next years trade deadline. Playoff rental for a contender looking for some offense on the backend.
- PLindbergh31


I'd be okay with keeping him for another year. Let him mentor Ghost and whatever other young kids make the team next year. However, if you can get a 1st for him this year, I guess it depends on where Hexy thinks that pick will be and what the draft is looking like, a contender's pick will obviously be later in the first round. I have no idea personally except for this Matthews kid I keep hearing about and I don't think we're lucky enough to win the lottery. If the draft isn't deep enough for us to really take advantage of that pick, I say keep him and try and get something better next year.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 4 @ 5:16 PM ET
He hasn't but it wasn't exactly a house afire when Streit was healthy. No issue in putting Streit back on the 1st unit, but it's no guarantee that it fixes things.
- Jsaquella


Agreed. There are a lot more elements to the PP then who is the QB on the backend.
OrangeAndBlack1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'm not telling.
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 4 @ 5:16 PM ET
Thanks Bill. I think that when Pronger joined the Flyers, he brought some important characteristics along with him. He brought leadership skills, experience, and the ability to motivate players around him. However, that does not mean that he was perfect; he lacked speed, and sometimes mobility. Most importantly, not once did you ever see him quit on a play. Ever since he went down to injury, we have not had a player on this team quite like him. He had the drive, and a desire to win. In looking at Morin, I don't know if we will get that type of player out of him, however to expect that from him, might be too much. Pronger had the skills that you just can't teach. He was smart, tough, and a leader. With the spoiled players of today, I just don't see another Pronger in the team's/league's near future.
Drouin maybe facing a similar situation that Stamkos did when he entered into the league. I remember his struggles to stick with the Bolts, and to not be sent back down. Did the Bolts, or Drouin learn from this? If Stamkos is indeed on his way out, then I wouldn't be surprised to see Drouin leave as well. Does Drouin fill a need for the Flyers? I look at Danny B, and how he was a question mark with his size, and strength. Maybe Drouin just needs a fresh start, and someone to mentor him at the NHL level. Thus, he might be worth the risk at the right price. Or, would you rather just stay the course with the current group?
Food for thought.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 4 @ 5:18 PM ET
I'd be okay with keeping him for another year. Let him mentor Ghost and whatever other young kids make the team next year. However, if you can get a 1st for him this year, I guess it depends on where Hexy thinks that pick will be and what the draft is looking like, a contender's pick will obviously be later in the first round. I have no idea personally except for this Matthews kid I keep hearing about and I don't think we're lucky enough to win the lottery. If the draft isn't deep enough for us to really take advantage of that pick, I say keep him and try and get something better next year.
- Tomfan365


I'd keep him til next year simply because the return will most likely be better.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 4 @ 5:20 PM ET
I'd keep him til next year simply because the return will most likely be better.
- PLindbergh31


The cap commitment for next year may well scare other teams off. But I still think you might snag a good pick for him this season's deadline. I doubt it's markedly better next year.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 4 @ 5:29 PM ET
Some good news for Flyer Prospects.

Aube-Kubel was voted second star of the month for December for the Quebec MJHL...which is pretty good....Phillipe Myers was the recipient of the 3rd star of the month....for December.

Not bad...
Tomfan365
Joined: 03.11.2013

Jan 4 @ 5:30 PM ET
The cap commitment for next year may well scare other teams off. But I still think you might snag a good pick for him this season's deadline. I doubt it's markedly better next year.
- Jsaquella


All depends on what team wants him and what the draft is looking like. Is the #20 pick projected to be better this year or next? Or can we get the 1st this year and package it for a higher pick? Can we get a top prospect instead?

Being a GM would make my head spin. Every move you make you have to be thinking 5 moves ahead and factor in every "if" scenario plus balance a cap budget for the next 10 years. Plus handle the minor leagues team and keep an eye on all the prospects. I'll take playing GM on HB with you guys....
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 4 @ 5:45 PM ET
Have we fixed our ES goal scoring problem by trading for the stud LW who has 3 ES goals in his 89 game NHL career yet?
- Feanor


no
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