Looks like Guns N Roses is back, or at least 3/5ths of it, for Coachella in 2016.

Apparently I'm the only one here who went to high school in the 1980's
- Jsaquella

Ha! Negative -- is Slash one of the three?

Ha! Negative -- is Slash one of the three?
- AllInForFlyers

Yep. Him, Duff & Axl

Looks like Guns N Roses is back, or at least 3/5ths of it, for Coachella in 2016.

Apparently I'm the only one here who went to high school in the 1980's
- Jsaquella

problem with guns n roses is they only have like 3 good songs a number of them suck or are just cover songs

problem with guns n roses is they only have like 3 good songs a number of them suck or are just cover songs
- 2Real

Do you possess a good opinion on any subject?

That is the trade off. They get a cheaper hit for longer. That gives them an extra 1 mill to lock up Stamkos.... The can also demote AMac if they want to and save an extra 950k. So 1,950,000. Sometimes I feel you argue with people just for the sake of arguing. That is all you seem to do here.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

There's no trade off for TB. They're not gaining cap space, they are losing it in making that deal because MacDonald's contract is 2 years longer. In the 18/19 season, TB is completely free of Carle's contract. By trading Carle for MacDonald, TB, instead of having zero cap space used for Carle, since he's gone, they'd now have MacDonald's cap hit minus whatever salary is retained by the Flyers. They aren't going to do that to save 500K in cap space for the next two seasons.

Right now, here is TB's commitment with Carle

16/17 5.5M
17/18 5.5M
18/19 0
19/20 0

Now if they trade Carle for MacDonald, not including any retained salary, which wouldn't change anything

16/17 5M
17/18 5M
18/19 5M
19/20 5M

Going from 0 to 5M in years 18/19 and 19/20 is not saving cap space, and would not make saving 1M in cap space in years 16/17 and 17/18 worth it.

If they waive and demote MacDonald, they're still carrying 4M or so of dead cap space for those last two years, versus 0 on the cap if they keep Carle, and they then can use that money for someone else.

There's no trade off for TB. They're not gaining cap space, they are losing it in making that deal because MacDonald's contract is 2 years longer. In the 18/19 season, TB is completely free of Carle's contract. By trading Carle for MacDonald, TB, instead of having zero cap space used for Carle, since he's gone, they'd now have MacDonald's cap hit minus whatever salary is retained by the Flyers. They aren't going to do that to save 500K in cap space for the next two seasons.

Right now, here is TB's commitment with Carle

16/17 5.5M
17/18 5.5M
18/19 0
19/20 0

Now if they trade Carle for MacDonald, not including any retained salary, which wouldn't change anything

16/17 5M
17/18 5M
18/19 5M
19/20 5M

Going from 0 to 5M in years 18/19 and 19/20 is not saving cap space, and would not make saving 1M in cap space in years 16/17 and 17/18 worth it.

If they waive and demote MacDonald, they're still carrying 4M or so of dead cap space for those last two years, versus 0 on the cap if they keep Carle, and they then can use that money for someone else.
- MJL

I mean you cant fix stupid...... 5.5 - 4.5 = 1mill hence 1 mill of extra cap space. The fact that the deal is long is irrelevant. They need the 1 mill now not in 2-3 years. AMac is tradeable by then

I mean you cant fix stupid...... 5.5 - 4.5 = 1mill hence 1 mill of extra cap space. The fact that the deal is long is irrelevant. They need the 1 mill now not in 2-3 years. AMac is tradeable by then
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

LOL, maybe this will explain it better. TB will not make that deal because saving 1M in the next two seasons is not worth taking on 4 or more million in cap commitments the following two seasons. Amazing that you'd call someone stupid without understanding a simple concept.

TB would never accept that trade. Simple as that.

There are better options. They could trade Carle for a draft pick and retain 50% of salary, and save more than 1M on the cap without taking on 2 more years of cap commitments in the return for Carle.