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SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:22 AM ET
Brayden Schenn just isn't that good. I don't think he'll ever be any better than the 5th or 6th best forward on any team. Drouin has a chance to be one of the two or three best players on a good team.
- PhillySportsGuy

So did Schenn once upon a time.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 4 @ 11:22 AM ET
Easily the best option we have.
- SuperSchennBros


That's not what I asked. One of L. Schenn, Schultz, or MDZ is the best we have to anchor a top-pair, but they're not suited to that spot.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 4 @ 11:23 AM ET
So did Schenn once upon a time.
- SuperSchennBros


Yes. It is no longer once upon a time.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 4 @ 11:23 AM ET
Brayden Schenn just isn't that good. I don't think he'll ever be any better than the 5th or 6th best forward on any team. Drouin has a chance to be one of the two or three best players on a good team.
- PhillySportsGuy


His Brother got all the talent.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 4 @ 11:23 AM ET
Oh my a 30 point NHL season! Brayden Schenn who was a 5th overall pick has had a 20 goal and 40+ point seasons and you want to get rid of him. Now Drouin certainly has more potential but that's all it is at this point. It's also not rocket science how important the top defense prospects are to this team moving forward.
- MJL


Yeah, because Brayden Schenn still is an inconsistent player. He always has been. The difference between Droiin and Schenn is that the Flyers have nothing to replace Schenn with.

Someone will score goals if you give them prime opportunities to do so. Schenn's done OK. Nothing special, and yes, I absolutely would try to upgrade him at every opportunity
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 4 @ 11:24 AM ET
Sweden shoulda started Felix.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 4 @ 11:25 AM ET
Yeah, because Brayden Schenn still is an inconsistent player. He always has been. The difference between Droiin and Schenn is that the Flyers have nothing to replace Schenn with.

Someone will score goals if you give them prime opportunities to do so. Schenn's done OK. Nothing special, and yes, I absolutely would try to upgrade him at every opportunity

- AllInForFlyers


Depends on whether you think Drouin is an improvement. Offensively, I think he is. As far as play away from the puck and off the ice, I don't know. I'd take the chance if B. Schenn was the centerpiece of the trade (Schenn + X) as opposed to an "included" piece (X + Schenn).
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:26 AM ET
I don't what the kid's mind is like, but he's so clearly better than any LW the Flyers have, it's actually pretty comical
- AllInForFlyers


Yeah. He's exactly the type of player the Flyers would like to add to go along with this rebuild. I also think the Flyers have a good group forwards who can provide leadership. Playing for a team where mistakes won't result in playoff losses will probably help his development as well.

I've been very happy with Hak having the patience to keep putting Ghost out even when he's making mistakes. He needs to make those mistakes and he needs to know the coach will go back to him when he does.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:26 AM ET
Oh my a 30 point NHL season! Brayden Schenn who was a 5th overall pick has had a 20 goal and 40+ point seasons and you want to get rid of him. Now Drouin certainly has more potential but that's all it is at this point. It's also not rocket science how important the top defense prospects are to this team moving forward.
- MJL

This is a fact. This post right here.

Most of you want to stick as much dynamite as you can find under this team and blow up this team for potential. Give up crappy Schenn and of our prized prospect for the potential.

This all sounds ludicrous to me.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 4 @ 11:27 AM ET
Yeah. He's exactly the type of player the Flyers would like to add to go along with this rebuild. I also think the Flyers have a good group forwards who can provide leadership. Playing for a team where mistakes won't result in playoff losses will probably help his development as well.

I've been very happy with Hak having the patience to keep putting Ghost out even when he's making mistakes. He needs to make those mistakes and he needs to know the coach will go back to him when he does.

- PhillySportsGuy


Do you think Berube would have Ghost sitting based on his mistakes a la MDZ last year?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 4 @ 11:27 AM ET
So did Schenn once upon a time.
- SuperSchennBros


Except he didn't. He was ranked highly in a pretty average class. Drouin was ranked at the top of a very deep and talented draft class. Go back and look, most of the 2009 draft reports had Schenn pegged as a potential high end number 2 center.

Drouin was pegged as a potential elite winger.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:27 AM ET
Yes. It is no longer once upon a time.
- jmatchett383

It is for Drouin.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:28 AM ET
So did Schenn once upon a time.
- SuperSchennBros


Drouin has outscored Schenn at every step of development. Also, just because one top prospect doesn't develop into a star doesn't mean all of them won't.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 4 @ 11:28 AM ET
This is a fact. This post right here.

Most of you want to stick as much dynamite as you can find under this team and blow up this team for potential. Give up crappy Schenn and of our prized prospect for the potential.

This all sounds ludicrous to me.

- SuperSchennBros


What are "most of you" who want to give up Schenn and one of our top-4 prospects for Drouin?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:28 AM ET
That's not what I asked. One of L. Schenn, Schultz, or MDZ is the best we have to anchor a top-pair, but they're not suited to that spot.
- jmatchett383

I don't care what you asked. You answered a question with a question.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:28 AM ET
His Brother got all the talent.
- PLindbergh31


We got the wrong pair of brothers
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 4 @ 11:28 AM ET
It is for Drouin.
- SuperSchennBros


Yes...that is the point.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:29 AM ET
What are "most of you" who want to give up Schenn and one of our top-4 prospects for Drouin?
- jmatchett383

Just focus your eyes and read.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 4 @ 11:29 AM ET
Hey, I understand that we all have our biases and opinions, and that's what makes this board really fun.

But someone is gonna spell it out for me why I should feel grateful to have anyone on this roster who has them closer to 30th overall than a playoff spot.

Brayden Schenn isn't the answer to any question we have about this roster. He's here. I don't rip him like I used to. But he's no solution to any problem we have, and I am sorry that he is not, because we really needed him to be more than he is
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 4 @ 11:29 AM ET
Just focus your eyes and read.
- SuperSchennBros


I saw 2 people propose that.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 4 @ 11:29 AM ET
Higher pt/60 despite playing on the 4th line and getting no pp time
- PhillySportsGuy


Move a player up and he's suddenly playing against higher competition. His p/60 will also be diluted with more ice time. That stat is very misleading and needs to be taken with a grain of salt so to speak.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 4 @ 11:30 AM ET
Drouin has outscored Schenn at every step of development. Also, just because one top prospect doesn't develop into a star doesn't mean all of them won't.
- PhillySportsGuy



Doesn't mean Drouin will either.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 4 @ 11:30 AM ET
I don't care what you asked. You answered a question with a question.
- SuperSchennBros


Fine then.
Answer: Given what they have, Schenn is the best suited for that spot. I guess implied answers are too much for you to grasp.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 4 @ 11:30 AM ET
Do you think Berube would have Ghost sitting based on his mistakes a la MDZ last year?
- jmatchett383


Maybe not sitting, but I think he'd be giving him very limited minutes. Berube coached like each game was a playoff game.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 4 @ 11:31 AM ET
We got the wrong pair of brothers
- PhillySportsGuy


Brent > Wayne
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