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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:04 AM ET
Did they win?
- A_SteamingLombardi


Define "win"
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Jan 5 @ 1:04 AM ET
I get the feeling that management is thinking "Well we're injured, but once those guys come back we'll be actually good"

I really hope that Virtanen goes back to the WHL and once Sutter is healthy that Vey takes over McCann's spot and he goes back to OHL.

Heck, I'd even explore sending Bo and Hutton to the AHL, even for a little, and running Hank-Sutter-Vey-Cracknell down the middle.

- Lindenis#1

If that's what they are thinking...then they all need to be fired...immediately ! All the way up to Aqualoonie !
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 5 @ 1:05 AM ET
I think its fair to call that into question when Derek Dorsett leads your team in ice time when trailing.

As for the last part, I'd kill to get some mind reading ability to know what they're honest assessment is of the team if all the indications are that ownership is like "We don't care if we're swept, we want at least the 5-6 mil in playoff revenue"

- Lindenis#1

You're not reading between the lines.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 5 @ 1:05 AM ET
Yes
- VANTEL

Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Jan 5 @ 1:06 AM ET
Define "win"
- 1970vintage

Absolute win!!! Every team at or below them In standings that played tonight got Atleast 1 point
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 5 @ 1:08 AM ET
It was back and forth, but yes, they won the coaches challenge.
- CubanBuffet

I missed a winning coaches challenge only need a Hutton goal and a lottery win to call it a successful year.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jan 5 @ 1:08 AM ET
If that's what they are thinking...then they all need to be fired...immediately ! All the way up to Aqualoonie !
- Bullfrog77


No one knows for sure if thats their line of thinking, but I feel we're ~two more losses away from a radio spot/presser where they say "Well you know injuries and if we were healthy we'd be real good so we're just gonna manage the team as if it was healthy and real good because Winning Environment is real good for the young guys that are slowly but surely getting buried as the season has worn on"
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Jan 5 @ 1:14 AM ET
Just listened to Willies post game comments. I only heard one " Good " and a half dozen "Pretty Goods".....man he must be really pissed !
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 5 @ 1:16 AM ET
Just listened to Willies post game comments. I only heard one " Good " and a half dozen "Pretty Goods".....man he must be really pissed !
- Bullfrog77

Let me guess, the coaches challenge was the one "Good"
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jan 5 @ 1:22 AM ET
Just listened to Willies post game comments. I only heard one " Good " and a half dozen "Pretty Goods".....man he must be really pissed !
- Bullfrog77


"Arizona is a frustrating team to play against. There's no room out there and we didn't take advantage of our chances" - Desjardins


This comment kills me. Your job as a coach is to find a gameplan and make adjustments to create room. Not just play Derek Dorsett.

And Arizona stinks defensively. They give up the most goals per game in the league and surrender like the 6th most shots.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 5 @ 1:27 AM ET

"Arizona is a frustrating team to play against. There's no room out there and we didn't take advantage of our chances" - Desjardins


This comment kills me. Your job as a coach is to find a gameplan and make adjustments to create room. Not just play Derek Dorsett.

And Arizona stinks defensively. They give up the most goals per game in the league and surrender like the 6th most shots.

- Lindenis#1

You are going to be in for a long year.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jan 5 @ 1:33 AM ET
I missed a winning coaches challenge only need a Hutton goal and a lottery win to call it a successful year.
- A_SteamingLombardi


If only all Canuck fans had your mentality. A friend who was at that brutal LA game said someone threw a jersey on the ice at the end of it.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jan 5 @ 1:36 AM ET
You are going to be in for a long year.
- VANTEL


I'm aware. Its been a long few decades.

Giving out about it makes it a bit less painful. Like when you stub your toe and say "(frank)" it hurts a bit less
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Jan 5 @ 1:40 AM ET
Let me guess, the coaches challenge was the one "Good"
- A_SteamingLombardi

Actually he was talking about Kenins game.
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Jan 5 @ 1:48 AM ET
Bright spot for the night? Gotta be Beiga...in my opinion he's the best d man on the team right now !
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 5 @ 2:01 AM ET


Ice time ranking when down a goal. This should be a fireable offence

- Lindenis#1


Given your track record can you provide the link?
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jan 5 @ 2:16 AM ET
Given your track record can you provide the link?
- CanuckDon


http://war-on-ice.com/pla...2016-01-05&splitseasons=1
and filter by TOI

which is actually now updated with todays results which change it to Cracknell and Dorsett 1-2 because thats real good to have them out there pulling in 46&47 percent possession in those minutes

or i just got bored and have mad skill at MSpaint
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 5 @ 2:38 AM ET
http://war-on-ice.com/playertable.html?mansit=3&scoresit=5&homeawaysit=1&tablegroup=1&playoffs=All&names=&team=VAN&pos=5&start1=2015-10-01&xaxis=&yaxis=&caxis=&saxis=&mintoi=25&tab=1&usedaterange=0&start0=20152016&end0=20152016&end1=2016-01-05&splitseasons=1
and filter by TOI

which is actually now updated with todays results which change it to Cracknell and Dorsett 1-2 because thats real good to have them out there pulling in 46&47 percent possession in those minutes

or i just got bored and have mad skill at MSpaint

- Lindenis#1


Doesn't pass the eye test/ common sense.
cracknell doesn't get enough ice time for that to be possible
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 5 @ 2:39 AM ET
Doesn't pass the eye test/ common sense.
cracknell doesn't get enough ice time for that to be possible

- CanuckDon


I have heard before that Dorsett gets plenty of ice time when down a goal but all I ever see is the Sedins..I wonder how reliable the data is
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jan 5 @ 2:40 AM ET
Doesn't pass the eye test/ common sense.
cracknell doesn't get enough ice time for that to be possible

- CanuckDon


Asks for proof
Is shown proof
Says no anyway
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 5 @ 2:44 AM ET
Must say it was nice to see the Sportsnet guys trash the Province for that brutal headline on Virtannen. Can't wait for the Province to go bankrupt
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 5 @ 3:01 AM ET
Asks for proof
Is shown proof
Says no anyway

- Lindenis#1

Yes because everything on the internet is true.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jan 5 @ 3:21 AM ET

"Arizona is a frustrating team to play against. There's no room out there and we didn't take advantage of our chances" - Desjardins


This comment kills me. Your job as a coach is to find a gameplan and make adjustments to create room. Not just play Derek Dorsett.

And Arizona stinks defensively. They give up the most goals per game in the league and surrender like the 6th most shots.

- Lindenis#1


thats right. I've been saying this stuff for awhile now and people dont seem to understand what a coaches job really is. Coaches dont just create line combos.

Hockey is much like chess...you need a game strategy designed against that specific opponent...depending on your opponents moves you have to tinker with that plan...perhaps even abandoning it if need be and go to something else.

what is clear to me from watching games is not only is there no tinkering, there's no game plan to start with. Esp on D.

These guys are clowns, can them.

a good tactical coach can get the weakest lineup performing beyond expectations.
Its how hartley took over the series against us and won with that sad sack calgary lineup
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jan 5 @ 3:23 AM ET
Yes because everything on the internet is true.
- A_SteamingLombardi

You know we could probably land Drouin for a rental if we took back Carle's salary for 3 years.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jan 5 @ 3:40 AM ET
You know we could probably land Drouin for a rental if we took back Carle's salary for 3 years.
- golfingsince

Why would you want that? Drouin sucks bad according to people who follow Tampa. There's a reason he's only played 9 games.

Booth is available too as a UFA, perhaps you want him too
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