Fountain of Youth: Carl Neill

http://canucksarmy.com/20...ntain-of-youth-carl-neill

any player on their entry level deal can be sent down and called up with impunity..... but sending Bo down makes zero sense
- Mungo

i thought elc or not, after 82 games you were waiver eligible?

Benning says there's some strong high-end talent in this year's draft. 10-11 players who can be top-6 fwds. #Canucks
- LeftCoaster

I think a stud defensemen should be a drafting priority this draft not another top 6 forward.

I think a stud defensemen should be a drafting priority this draft not another top 6 forward.
- PetrolSexual

BPA when drafting in the top I guess is his thoughts?

I think a stud defensemen should be a drafting priority this draft not another top 6 forward.
- PetrolSexual

BPA.....you don't turn away from someone who could pot 40 in the show just because someone thinks this d man is best in his class.

By Benning admitting they're gonna keep Virtanen around this year it's my hope they intent to rid themselves of Higgins and Burrows type players so he can get more than twelve minutes a game.

BEST SAY WHAT?

Maybe not everyone expected the Sedins to be on the ice with three minutes to go, but enough of us did.

Even the broadcasters expressed disbelief about Willie’s personnel on the ice, and I would say that’s uncommon.

It was an OZ face-off. It was after a TV timeout. It was a one-goal game. The scene was set to get the Sedins a couple of late game shifts to go for the tying goal.

Vey-McCann-Dorsett had been on the ice for a short shift before the stoppage.

Instead of pulling that line off, and giving the Sedins an opportunity to tie the game, that line stayed on, and Willie continued to, well, simply roll his lines.

It meant, instead of the Sedins getting two shifts in the final three minutes, they got one. A long one, albeit. But wouldn’t anyone rather them get two 50-second shifts in the final three rather than one 75-second shift?

Vey actually had a good game, and had some chances in the second. And McCann quietly got himself free on that shift and nearly scored on a pretty great one-timer.

mccannshot The Provies: Its a new era for the Sedins and everything you need to know about Goat Gate

Still…


BEST WTF

There have been enough reasons this season to question Willie’s deployment, notably late in games, but none has been as odd as his rolling of lines when down a goal.

The fact Derek Dorsett has been at the top of even-strength ice time all season, when the Canucks are trailing by one, is not something anyone can easily explain.

I’m sure power plays are a factor, but I don’t think anyone would be able to defend the reality that Dorsett plays more than Henrik when the Canucks are losing by one.

Maybe Willie can? I hope so.

I think a stud defensemen should be a drafting priority this draft not another top 6 forward.
- PetrolSexual

Exactly fill the needs.

BEST SAY WHAT?

Maybe not everyone expected the Sedins to be on the ice with three minutes to go, but enough of us did.

Even the broadcasters expressed disbelief about Willie’s personnel on the ice, and I would say that’s uncommon.

It was an OZ face-off. It was after a TV timeout. It was a one-goal game. The scene was set to get the Sedins a couple of late game shifts to go for the tying goal.

Vey-McCann-Dorsett had been on the ice for a short shift before the stoppage.

Instead of pulling that line off, and giving the Sedins an opportunity to tie the game, that line stayed on, and Willie continued to, well, simply roll his lines.

It meant, instead of the Sedins getting two shifts in the final three minutes, they got one. A long one, albeit. But wouldn’t anyone rather them get two 50-second shifts in the final three rather than one 75-second shift?

Vey actually had a good game, and had some chances in the second. And McCann quietly got himself free on that shift and nearly scored on a pretty great one-timer.

mccannshot The Provies: Its a new era for the Sedins and everything you need to know about Goat Gate

Still…


BEST WTF

There have been enough reasons this season to question Willie’s deployment, notably late in games, but none has been as odd as his rolling of lines when down a goal.

The fact Derek Dorsett has been at the top of even-strength ice time all season, when the Canucks are trailing by one, is not something anyone can easily explain.

I’m sure power plays are a factor, but I don’t think anyone would be able to defend the reality that Dorsett plays more than Henrik when the Canucks are losing by one.

Maybe Willie can? I hope so.


- LeftCoaster

Murph gets quite a few one on one sessions with Benning, send him a twit to ask WTF is with Wee Willie and his line ups

BEST SAY WHAT?

Maybe not everyone expected the Sedins to be on the ice with three minutes to go, but enough of us did.

Even the broadcasters expressed disbelief about Willie’s personnel on the ice, and I would say that’s uncommon.

It was an OZ face-off. It was after a TV timeout. It was a one-goal game. The scene was set to get the Sedins a couple of late game shifts to go for the tying goal.

Vey-McCann-Dorsett had been on the ice for a short shift before the stoppage.

Instead of pulling that line off, and giving the Sedins an opportunity to tie the game, that line stayed on, and Willie continued to, well, simply roll his lines.

It meant, instead of the Sedins getting two shifts in the final three minutes, they got one. A long one, albeit. But wouldn’t anyone rather them get two 50-second shifts in the final three rather than one 75-second shift?

Vey actually had a good game, and had some chances in the second. And McCann quietly got himself free on that shift and nearly scored on a pretty great one-timer.

mccannshot The Provies: Its a new era for the Sedins and everything you need to know about Goat Gate

Still…


BEST WTF

There have been enough reasons this season to question Willie’s deployment, notably late in games, but none has been as odd as his rolling of lines when down a goal.

The fact Derek Dorsett has been at the top of even-strength ice time all season, when the Canucks are trailing by one, is not something anyone can easily explain.

I’m sure power plays are a factor, but I don’t think anyone would be able to defend the reality that Dorsett plays more than Henrik when the Canucks are losing by one.

Maybe Willie can? I hope so.


- LeftCoaster

I would say keep Vey up send McCann back with JV to the CHL. No point on burning a year of their ELC on this joke season.

I would say keep Vey up send McCann back with JV to the CHL. No point on burning a year of their ELC on this joke season.
- mauryballstein

With the amount of continuing injuries this team seems to be retaining I doubt they can afford to send anyone back. also Which is why JV is still here.

I would say keep Vey up send McCann back with JV to the CHL. No point on burning a year of their ELC on this joke season.
- mauryballstein

We have already burned a year of their ELC after the 9 game mark. At 40 games or so, we burn a year towards UFA

Exactly fill the needs.
- LordHumungous

don't understand the drafting for a need now. They need the help now!.... when you're drafting players they're 18 years old.... they usually take 1-3 years before their even in your lineup and probably another couple years before they're actually making an impact.

always best to draft BPA.

don't understand the drafting for a need now. They need the help now!.... when you're drafting players they're 18 years old.... they usually take 1-3 years before their even in your lineup and probably another couple years before they're actually making an impact.

always best to draft BPA.
- Mungo

If we can have a highly competitive team, with a new look roster, a great youth movement with all the cupboards stocked on the farm in 3 years then I will gladly take 3 more years of being a below average team in order to get where we need to be. Hybrid Rebuilds don't work and unless you have those foundational cornerstone players (which we lack apart from our aging sedins), we need to do a refresh here and plan for the future. Immediate aches and pains for future gains my friend.

By Benning admitting they're gonna keep Virtanen around this year it's my hope they intent to rid themselves of Higgins and Burrows type players so he can get more than twelve minutes a game.
- LeftCoaster

Did he admit they were keeping him the whole year?

I didn't hear the latest interview but last night I thought he only said they were bringing him back now and didn't need to make that decision yet.

We have already burned a year of their ELC after the 9 game mark. At 40 games or so, we burn a year towards UFA
- nucks_94

thats what i was referring too. may as well give the minutes at centre to friesen, vey and gaunce. Have enough wingers up already and can always bring up jensen, shink or actually play grenier.

With the amount of continuing injuries this team seems to be retaining I doubt they can afford to send anyone back. also Which is why JV is still here.
- LordHumungous

Not like JM or JV are bringing anything of value right now that others cant. So why get them to UFA status for no reason. Not like 3-4 months of Jr. is going to kill them.

Did he admit they were keeping him the whole year?

I didn't hear the latest interview but last night I thought he only said they were bringing him back now and didn't need to make that decision yet.
- belcherbd

He said "I'd like to keep him up this year for development purposes" so really not a 100% commitment but sounds like he's staying.

http://www.tsn.ca/radio/v...ch-pride-to-tank-1.418342

Did he admit they were keeping him the whole year?

I didn't hear the latest interview but last night I thought he only said they were bringing him back now and didn't need to make that decision yet.
- belcherbd

Yep, that is what I heard last night, more evaluation, no rush to make a decision.

Today, it sounded like Virtanen was staying, but I wouldn't bet on it. It is funny because we hear JV has the size and skating ability but still needs to work on a lot of stuff... sounds like he should be in the AHL, he can't play there, so why not send him back to Jr?

Isn't Gaunce closer to being nhl ready than JV?

I was more against McCann staying at the start of the year, didn't want to see him get worn down by the heavy game of the NHL. but with the injuries and the club struggling, I can see McCann making a bigger contribution than JV, bringing skill to the lineup we don't have enough of.

Maybe if we make the playoffs, JB sees Jake as being able to make a difference like Ferland last post season. makes us sound desperate.

McCann went 7-4 on the dot last night #progress

Did he admit they were keeping him the whole year?

I didn't hear the latest interview but last night I thought he only said they were bringing him back now and didn't need to make that decision yet.
- belcherbd

That's the impression I got. Sounds like they were going to come up with a plan much like they did with McCann

Yep, that is what I heard last night, more evaluation, no rush to make a decision.

Today, it sounded like Virtanen was staying, but I wouldn't bet on it. It is funny because we hear JV has the size and skating ability but still needs to work on a lot of stuff... sounds like he should be in the AHL, he can't play there, so why not send him back to Jr?

Isn't Gaunce closer to being nhl ready than JV?

I was more against McCann staying at the start of the year, didn't want to see him get worn down by the heavy game of the NHL. but with the injuries and the club struggling, I can see McCann making a bigger contribution than JV, bringing skill to the lineup we don't have enough of.

Maybe if we make the playoffs, JB sees Jake as being able to make a difference like Ferland last post season. makes us sound desperate.
- hillbillydeluxe

That makes us sound delusional.

Yep, that is what I heard last night, more evaluation, no rush to make a decision.

Today, it sounded like Virtanen was staying, but I wouldn't bet on it. It is funny because we hear JV has the size and skating ability but still needs to work on a lot of stuff... sounds like he should be in the AHL, he can't play there, so why not send him back to Jr?

Isn't Gaunce closer to being nhl ready than JV?

I was more against McCann staying at the start of the year, didn't want to see him get worn down by the heavy game of the NHL. but with the injuries and the club struggling, I can see McCann making a bigger contribution than JV, bringing skill to the lineup we don't have enough of.

Maybe if we make the playoffs, JB sees Jake as being able to make a difference like Ferland last post season. makes us sound desperate.
- hillbillydeluxe

Did you see that game last night? That was one of the worst NHL hockey games I've ever seen, we are not making the playoffs.

First of all, he's not six inches tall Mr. smart-guy, he's listed as 5'10" tall, which means he's probably five nine and a half. Secondly, oh wise one, his defensive awareness or 200 foot game is, let's say, a work in progress.

There's a reason he plays on the wing under Tippett, and he'll probably spend his whole career there. I don't know why I'm humouring you with a response but you're lack of intelligence is shining thru!

That's not to say he's not a fantastic young player, because he is, he's ultra-skilled. That said, the Canucks needed a good young center when they picked Horvat, they got one. There's a reason he made the NHL at 19 years of age playing one of the hardest positions to play.
- LeftCoaster

are you seriously that nitpicky to correct me at a difference of an inch and two pounds?? BTW, I know exactly how tall and heavy he is, I rounded up to see if you would actually use that as a defense (and you did!!! thats shameful) trust me it doesn't strengthen your point - my argument is that he has no problem handling himself in the league given his size and he's proven it so don't throw back your claim of him being a winger for life (you don't know that) and we're also not talking about defensive awareness (although he is one of the only players on the team at a 0+/- which is impressive given the rest of his team.) By all means humor me more!!!

That makes us sound delusional.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Honestly, I can't see the need to keep him if he is playing minimal minutes and lost his confidence. I mentioned Gaunce, because I think he is more NHL ready. Maybe Grenier is more NHL ready too.

If he is barely keeping his head above water this season, is he gifted an NHL roster spot next year or is he going to be playing in Utica for further development? If he is likely going to end up in Utica for a good stretch, why isn't he back with his jr. club?

If JV is coming back to Vancouver for a little pep talk and mental reset after the disappointment of the wjc, that sounds alright too.