Lets cue the "Brock Boeser's stock is at an all time low because of his lack of production". #Bust...
- Codes1087

Total bust.
Benning sucks.

My feelings about trading for a guy like Rychel or Drouin .

In past years there was an attraction to go after disgruntled first round picks because our farm team was bare. Now we have similar players in out system that are not disgruntled , so there is no need to go after them.

If a high end Dman becomes available or elite forward then you can look at the costs

My feelings about trading for a guy like Rychel or Drouin .

In past years there was an attraction to go after disgruntled first round picks because our farm team was bare. Now we have similar players in out system that are not disgruntled , so there is no need to go after them.

If a high end Dman becomes available or elite forward then you can look at the costs
- VANTEL

So RJ isn't Elite?

My feelings about trading for a guy like Rychel or Drouin .

In past years there was an attraction to go after disgruntled first round picks because our farm team was bare. Now we have similar players in out system that are not disgruntled , so there is no need to go after them.

If a high end Dman becomes available or elite forward then you can look at the costs
- VANTEL

I get what you're saying, the team can afford to be more selective now going forward. It just might be worthwhile to take a few chances when the price is lower than before these players are established.
Drouin I think is a good example of one you consider what the price is. He is intriguing as he is not far removed from his draft and many experts still peg him with high potential (a higher ceiling than any Canuck prospect in the last decade). You think of his age (and what happened to Seguin) and weigh the price to get him. That all being said, you know the assets you have and there is definitely risk associated with making these deals.

So RJ isn't Elite?
- Retinalz

As I said before I am not too high on him nor am I against him.

I have red flags with him. I don't know if they are correct or I am overthinking . I also think he will be available in a couple of years where we don't have to give up anything for him.

I get what you're saying, the team can afford to be more selective now going forward. It just might be worthwhile to take a few chances when the price is lower than before these players are established.
Drouin I think is a good example of one you consider what the price is. He is intriguing as he is not far removed from his draft and many experts still peg him with high potential (a higher ceiling than any Canuck prospect in the last decade). You think of his age (and what happened to Seguin) and weigh the price to get him. That all being said, you know the assets you have and there is definitely risk associated with making these deals.
- WhiteLie

There will be a lot of teams bidding so I think the price will be high.

I have seen him play more than five games , I have never been enamoured with him.
I am not saying there is something wrong with him, but his style never got me excited.

There will be a lot of teams bidding so I think the price will be high.

I have seen him play more than five games , I have never been enamoured with him.
I am not saying there is something wrong with him, but his style never got me excited.
- VANTEL

Yup, I am happy with our prospects and the direction of the team. I wouldnt be opposed to getting him but I am not advocating it, just I think worthy of a discussion. He could be a superstar or the next Sam Gagner...

As I said before I am not too high on him nor am I against him.

I have red flags with him. I don't know if they are correct or I am overthinking . I also think he will be available in a couple of years where we don't have to give up anything for him.
- VANTEL

Better to get him now and guarantee he is a Canuck. IF he gets traded and likes where he goes he may just resign there. What are your red flags?

Yup, I am happy with our prospects and the direction of the team. I wouldnt be opposed to getting him but I am not advocating it, just I think worthy of a discussion. He could be a superstar or the next Sam Gagner...
- WhiteLie

Yeah it is definitely water cooler topic.

I think in the next three years draft your top centre , your top LW and your top two Dman and we will be good. . I am talking top 7 picks though. I think if we are drafting 15 th it will take a lot longer

Better to get him now and guarantee he is a Canuck. IF he gets traded and likes where he goes he may just resign there. What are your red flags?
- Retinalz

Work ethic and conditioning.

Who do you realistically want the canucks to add to the team?
- SMBDragon

Although I wouldn't mind RJ, I think a top 6 winger is a more realistic a target with Vrbata likely gone at the end of the season. I wouldn't be against Lucic or any other ufa as long as we don't get tied to too much term.

Buff is a head case, still wouldn't mind him here. I keep wondering what kind of player he could be if he ever found the weight room, trained a little harder. Some players find it later in their career and get a boost from it.

Work ethic and conditioning.
- VANTEL

You mean you dont think he spends all summer working on his game on his backyard court???

Yup, I am happy with our prospects and the direction of the team. I wouldnt be opposed to getting him but I am not advocating it, just I think worthy of a discussion. He could be a superstar or the next Sam Gagner...
- WhiteLie

As per your Virtanen + for Drouin.

I don't think the Canucks are in a position to move any young players or draft picks. While drouin is a high end prospect and IMO will still likely be a good NHLer, this team can't afford to move prospects regardless of their perceived lack of development.

I have been pretty vocal in disagreeing with selecting Virtanen at 6 but at the end of the day this team needs physicality as much as it needs scoring.

I think it would be a different case if we had other players in the system with his physical tools, but we don't other than possibly Stewart who is and has never been a legit prospect.

Tanev + Gaunces + Jensen(torts loved jensen) for RJ and RK
Then we create a deal to get Bowey from Washington.
- Retinalz

Lol are you high?

Lol are you high?
- Bullfrog77

Marwood and ASL might take exception to this.

So RJ isn't Elite?
- Retinalz

Elite or fat & lazy, take your pick.

Tanev + Gaunces + Jensen(torts loved jensen) for RJ and RK
Then we create a deal to get Bowey from Washington.
- Retinalz

We got more than one?

My feelings about trading for a guy like Rychel or Drouin .

In past years there was an attraction to go after disgruntled first round picks because our farm team was bare. Now we have similar players in out system that are not disgruntled , so there is no need to go after them.

If a high end Dman becomes available or elite forward then you can look at the costs
- VANTEL

None of them are top 5 picks. I'm pretty sure Drouin is on 29 GM's wishlist and Yzerman will wait for some fat return.
Edit: Trading Virt for him would be a mistake IMO though

Elite or fat & lazy, take your pick.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Fat and Lazy?! 6'3 220 doesn't sound too fat to me. You give Torts too much credit

He did have 120 in 164 games over the past two seasons, 26 in 37 this year despite Torts.

Work ethic and conditioning.
- VANTEL

Is Vantel's secret identity Tortz?!

None of them are top 5 picks. I'm pretty sure Drouin is on 29 GM's wishlist and Yzerman will wait for some fat return.
Edit: Trading Virt for him would be a mistake IMO though
- neem55

I have seen him play a number of times as most here have. Never once did I think of him as a special player.

I have seen him play a number of times as most here have. Never once did I think of him as a special player.
- VANTEL

Well, that's fair. IMO guys don't go 3rd overall for nothing, especially in a draft where a #1 D is on the board and you take a skilled winger instead.

Lol are you high?
- Bullfrog77

Not rational enough to be high. .....

A good trade for both might be Yak for Droid and a 2nd

Just finished watching the Russia, US game, interesting. Never was a fan of Wilson, except when he was in Toronto...

Well, that's fair. IMO guys don't go 3rd overall for nothing, especially in a draft where a #1 D is on the board and you take a skilled winger instead.
- neem55

If I was trading for one of the State of Florida's third over all bust I would take the other one.